Breakout Sessions

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Breakout Sessions
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Travel Assistant At Southwest Airlines

• His Charm
• His Skill
• His Facilities

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What Most Impressed Me

• He Listened to Me

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Optimized The Interaction

• He was an expert on what Southwest Airlines had
  to offer.
• But, he realized that I was the expert on what I
  wanted.

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Travel Assistance Helping Students Make
Connecting Flights

• Goal Facilitate discussion between CCs and UNT
  to improve the connections for students.

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Making the Most of Our Time

• (See Handout for College Designations)
• 1010-1040 Sub Session 1
• 1045-1115 Sub Session 2
• 1115-1130 Regroup in Concord 1
• Feedback Report from the Sessions
• What did we learn from the sharing?
• What future conversations still need to occur?

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Breakout Sessions Sub-Session 1 1010-1040

• Concord I- College of Arts and Sciences
• Concord III- College of Music, Honors and TRIO
  Programs
• Chancellor I- College of Visual Arts and Design
• Chancellor II- School of Merchandising and
  Hospitality Management
• Champanel I- College of Business Administration
• Champanel II- College of Engineering
• Chenin Blanc I- College of Public Affairs and
  Community Service
• Chenin Blanc II- College of Education

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Breakout Sessions Sub-Session 2 1045-1115

• Concord I- College of Arts and Sciences
• Concord III- College of Music, Honors and TRIO
  Programs
• Chancellor I- College of Visual Arts and Design
• Chancellor II- School of Merchandising and
  Hospitality Management
• Champanel I- College of Business Administration
• Champanel II- College of Engineering
• Chenin Blanc I- College of Public Affairs and
  Community Service
• Chenin Blanc II- College of Education

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Making the Most of Our Time

• Listening TimeTalk With Each Other
• Do you find the Transfer Connections effective?
  How can UNT make them more effective?
• How can four year advisors reach out to community
  college students? (Are Eagle Landings working? Is
  there something else UNT can do?)
• How can we help students make better course
  selections within core/program requirements to
  ease transition (i.e. double dips, institutional
  options, program specific )?
• How can we work together to better refer students
  to Honors, TRIO Student Success programs
  (including McNair) and Study Abroad?

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Making the Most of Our Time

• Listening TimeTalk With Each Other
• How specific colleges/schools use courses towards
  bachelor's degrees.
• How field of study degrees and AAS programs fit
  into each specific college/school
• Should a student chose a major of BAAS or a
  traditional degree student (Example Would a
  criminal justice AAS student be better off with a
  BAAS degree or a BS in Criminal Justice).

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Making the Most of Our Time

• Listening TimeTalk With Each Other
• Whats the truth about the use of
  Career/Technical (WECM) coursesWhy some
  colleges/schools use them and others dont?
• The purpose of the Associates degree - (Help four
  year advisors understand what the associates
  degree accomplishes for the student, what it
  accomplishes for the community college, what does
  it lead to, does it add more hours than needed)
• Which tools work best for community college
  advisors in assisting their students transfer
  (i.e. transfer guides, equivalency guides or CAS
  Course Applicability System)?

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What Most Impressed Me

• He Listened to Me

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First Question As a Freshman 1979

• What Is Your Major?
• Pre-Engineering

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Directions 1979

• Go to This Room
• Fill Out This Information
• This is Your Schedule
• Here is a List of Resources You Need to Be
  Successful
• Here is Your Advisors Name, Location, and Office
  Hours
• Thank You
• That will be 1486.00 (Tuition, Room, Board)

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2008 Daughter to College

• First Question What Is Your Major?
• Pre-Med---Biology

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Seeing Double?
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Directions 2008

• Go to This Room
• Fill Out This Information
• This is Your Schedule
• Here is a List of Resources You Need to Be
  Successful
• Here is Your Advisors Name, Location, and Office
  Hours
• Thank You
• That will be 39,486.00 (Tuition, Room, Board)

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After the Experience Questions?

• How will I get a ROI?
• What Will Happen to the 29 hours of AP and Dual
  Credit from Grayson County College?
• She said Pre Med, but what does that mean at TCU?
• Well, I got Her Class Schedule, Well Figure it
  Out Later

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Epiphany

• We were caught between two worlds?
• Productive Scheduling and
• Productive Advising

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Still Looking for Ways to Help Her Grow
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Institution Looking

• Efficiency and Effectiveness
• Little or No Wait Time
• Appropriate Class Sizes

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Productive Scheduling

• Strengths
• Works well from a process perspective
• When there are long lines in and out
• It addresses the anxiety goals of the student
  Get Classes, Get Bill, Go Home

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Productive Scheduling

• Weaknesses
• Misses a perfect opportunity with captive minds-
  Advisor and Advisee
• Sets up later challenges when transferring
• Bypasses the minute details Specific College
  Requirements and More Importantly Career Goals.

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Productive Scheduling

• Productive Scheduling is a form of advising that
  is characterized by
• Top-down approach
• Major? Class? Day and Time
• Hierarchical relationship
• Institution Requirements? Student
• One-directional flow of information and ideas
  Class Requirements? Student
• The Student as Passive Recipient -Got It

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Conceptual Model of Advising

• As

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What is Your Institutions Model?

• A Advisor Knows the Institutions Needs
• S Student Knows their Dreams
• A
• As
• AS
• aS
• S

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The Challenge

• Move Towards Productive Advising While
  Maintaining the Advantages of Productive
  Scheduling (Efficiency and Effectiveness)

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Moving From Productive Scheduling to Productive
Advising

• aS

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Productive Advising

• An approach to advising that involves listening,
  analysis, and interpretation, feedback, and
  integration.
• A more personal approach making the advising
  relationship a partnership between the student
  and the advisor where the student is majority
  owner.

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Productive Advising

• Dialogue
• Two-way flow of ideas and information (while
  recognizing that the adviser may have specialized
  knowledge that the student does not)
• Question-and-answer approach
• The student as active participant

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This Mornings Session

• UNTCC

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This Mornings Session

• UNTCC

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This Mornings Session

• UNTCC

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Challenge

• How can your Advising Team move closer towards
  the
• aS Model?

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What You Want An Advisee to Say

• They Listened to Me