Title: The Development of Large-area Detectors With Space and Time Resolution
1The Development of Large-area Detectors With
Space and Time Resolution
- Henry J. Frisch
- Enrico Fermi Institute and Argonne Natl. Lab.
- OUTLINE
- Application Space Four frontiers- time
resolution, area, QE, and cost (different
applications sit at different points in this 4D
space, but not separated by large amounts of
development effort- all 4 are fertile.) - Goals of 3-year RD effort- commercializable
modules - The LAPD Collaboration present status
- Status and needs of bridging the neutrino world
to the hardware RD effort.
2Model of LAPD Interface to Applications
- Question- how to interface to the specific needs
of the different applications while focusing our
resources and facilities on the basic RD needed? - Answer- build interfaces to each of the
applications so that in each case there is a
group in the application field working closely
with the technical developers. Fertile area for
new ideas, designs, applications. (great for
young folks looking for a leadership role in
their field). - Best example so far is Medical Imagining- have a
group at UC who has worked closely with us also
the French connection through Patrick LeDu. A
similar effort has been started with the neutrino
community- Mayly Sanchez, Matt Wetstein, John
Felde, and Bob Svoboda.
3Parallel Efforts on Specific Applications
Drawing Not To Scale (!)
LAPD Detector Development
ANL,Arradiance,Chicago,Fermilab,
Hawaii,Muons,Inc,SLAC,SSL/UCB, Synkera, U. Wash.
4Application 1 (my initial motivation)
We (you, we_all) spend big bucks/year measuring
the 3-momenta of hadrons, but cant follow the
flavor-flow of quarks, the primary objects that
are colliding. Principle measure ALL the
information
CDF-1979 to present
Discoveries Top quark B_s Mixing Measurements Ma
ny many many- and many more not done yet
Not light compared to Atlas and CMS ( 5000 tons)
5Is Flavor Fundamental?
- Is the existence of flavor- e,mu, tau up,
down, strange, charm, bottom, and top,
fundamental, in the sense that if we cant
understand it in a deeper way, were in the grip
of initial conditions rather than fundamental
symmetries or principles? - Really a deep divide between the string landscape
community, who are stuck with 10500 equally
possible universes, and us, who have this one
characterized by small integers and interesting
patterns. (Aside- This latter, I believe, is the
future area for Fermilab).
6Quarks and Lepton Sectors-Fundamental??
M2 MeV
Q2/3
M175,000 MeV
M1750 MeV
Quarks
M300 MeV
M4,500 MeV
Q-1/3
Nico Berry (nicoberry.com)
(Should we ask for one for the neutrinos? What do
they look like? Inverted or Normal?)
M2 MeV
7Application 1-Quark Flavor Physics
- E.g- Tevatron 3rd-generation detector (combine D0
and CDF hardcore groups) ATLAS Upgrade (true
upgrade) - One example- precision measurements of the top
and W masses
8A real CDF Top Quark Event
T-Tbar -gt WbW-bbar
W-gtcharm sbar
Measure transit time here (stop)
B-quark
T-quark-gtWbquark
T-quark-gtWbquark
B-quark
Cal. Energy From electron
- Fit t0 (start) from all tracks
W-gtelectronneutrino
Can we follow the color flow through kaons, cham,
bottom? TOF!
9Application 1a- Collider Detector UpgradesPhoton
Vertexing
- Real data- 3 events in one beam crossing
- 2 events at same place 2 at same time
- Can distinguish in the 2D space-time plane
10Application 2- Lepton Flavor Physics
Constantinos Melachrinos (Cypress) (idea of
Howard Nicholson)
- Example- DUSEL detector with 100 coverage and 3D
photon vertex reconstruction. - Need gt10,000 square meters (!) (100 ps resolution)
11Application 3- Medical Imaging (PET)
Advantages Factor of 10 cheaper (?) depth of
interaction measurement 375 ps resolution (H.
Kim, UC)
12Application 4 Fixed-target GeometriesParticle
ID and Photon Vertexing
Geometry is planar- i.e. the event is projected
onto a detection plane. Timing gives the path
length from the point on the plane to the
interaction. New information for vertexing,
reconstruction of p0 s from 2 photons, direction
of long-lived particles. Very thin in
zdirection, unlike Cherenkovcounters. Can give
a space-point with all 3 coordinates- x,y and
z Key new information- gives tomographic
capability to a plane
Thin Pb Converter
13Application 5- Nuclear Non-proliferation
Havent thought about this yet- looking for
interested ANL folks. But
- MCPs loaded with Boron or Gadolinium are used as
neutron detectors with good gamma separation
(Nova Scientific). - Large-area means could scan trucks, containers
- Time resolution corresponds to space resolution
out of the detector plane IF one has a t_0
An area for possible applications- needs a leader
to form an application group.
14Why has 100 psec been the for 60 yrs?
Typical path lengths for light and electrons are
set by physical dimensions of the light
collection and amplifying device.
These are now on the order of an inch. One inch
is 100 psec. Thats what we measure- no surprise!
(pictures from T. Credo)
Typical Light Source (With Bounces)
Typical Detection Device (With Long Path Lengths)
15Characteristics we need
- Small feature size ltlt 300 microns
- Homogeneity (ability to make uniform large-area-
think solar-panels, floor tiles) - Fast rise-time and/or constant signal shape
- Lifetime (rad hard in some cases)
- Intrinsic low cost application specific
(low-cost materials and simple batch fabrication)
16Our Detector Development- 3 Prongs
- Readout Transmission lineswaveform sampling
- Anode is a 50-ohm stripline- can be long
readout 2 ends - CMOS sampling onto capacitors- fast, cheap,
low-power - Sampling ASICs demonstrated and widely used
- Go from .25micron to .13micron 8ch/chip to
32/chip - Simulations predict 2-3 ps resolution with
present rise times, 1 with faster - (MCP Signal Processing for Pico-second
Resolution Timing Measurements.Jean-Francois
Genat (Chicago U., EFI) , Gary Varner (Hawaii U.)
, Fukun Tang, Henry J. Frisch (Chicago U., EFI) .
Oct 2008. 18pp. Published in Nucl.Instrum.Meth.A6
07387-393,2009. e-Print arXiv0810.5590 ) - MCP development
- Use Atomic Layer Deposition for emissive
materials (amplification) passive substrates - Simulation of EVERYTHING as basis for design
- Modern computing tools plus some amazing people
allow simulation of things- validate with data.
17 Generating the signal (particles)
- Use Cherenkov light - fast
Incoming rel. particle
Custom Anode with Equal-Time Transmission Lines
Capacitative. Return
A 2 x 2 MCP- actual thickness 3/4 e.g. Burle
(Photonis) 85022-with mods per our work
Collect charge here-differential Input to 200 GHz
TDC chip
18Micro-channel Plates
- Currently the glass substrate has a dual
function- - To provide the geometry and electric field like
the dynode chain in a PMT, and - To use an intrinsic lead-oxide layer for
secondary electron emission (SEE)
Micro-photograph of Burle 25 micron tube- Greg
Sellberg (Fermilab)- 2M/m2- not including
readout
19Get position AND timeAnode Design and
Simulation(Fukun Tang)
- Transmission Line- readout both endsgt pos and
time - Cover large areas with much reduced channel
account.
20Photonis Planicon on Transmission Line Board
- Couple 1024 pads to strip-lines with
silver-loaded epoxy (Greg Sellberg, Fermilab).
21Comparison of measurements (Ed May and
Jean-Francois Genat and simulation (Fukun Tang)
- Transmission Line- simulation shows 3.5GHz
bandwidth- 100 psec rise (well-matched to MCP) - Measurements in Bld362 laser teststand match
velocity and time/space resolution very well
22Scaling Performance to Large AreaAnode
Simulation(Fukun Tang)
- 48-inch Transmission Line- simulation shows 1.1
GHz bandwidth- still better than present
electronics. - KEY POINT- READOUT FOR A 4-FOOT-WIDE DETECTOR IS
THE SAME AS FOR A LITTLE ONE- HAS POTENTIAL
23Proof of Principle
- Camden Ertley results using ANL laser-test stand
and commercial Burle 25-micron tube- lots of
photons - (note- pore size may matter less than current
path!- we can do better with ALD custom designs
(transmission lines))
24Understanding the contributing factors to 6 psec
resolutions with present Burle/Photonis/Ortec
setups- Jerry Vavras Numbers
- TTS 3.8 psec (from a TTS of 27 psec)
- Cos(theta)_cherenk 3.3 psec
- Pad size 0.75 psec
- Electronics (old Ortec) 3.4 psec
25ANL Test-stand Measurements
Jean-Francois Genat, Ed May, Eugene Yurtsev
- Sample both ends of transmission line with
Photonis MCP (not optimum)
2 ps 100 microns measured
26The Large-Area Photo-detector Collaboration
Have formed a collaboration to do this in 3
years. 4 National Labs, 5 Divisions at Argonne, 3
companies, electronics expertise at UC and
Hawaii RD- not for sure, but we see no
show-stoppers (yet)
27Large-area Micro-Channel Plate Panel Cartoon
N.B.- this is a cartoon- working on workable
designs-
Front Window and Radiator
Photocathode
Pump Gap
Low Emissivity Material
High Emissivity Material
Normal MCP pore material
Gold Anode
50 Ohm Transmission Line
Rogers PC Card
Capacitive Pickup to Sampling Readout
28Cartoon of a frugal MCP
- Put all ingredients together- flat glass case
(think TVs), capillary/ALD amplification,
transmission line anodes, waveform sampling
29Can dial size for occupancy, resolution- e.g.
neutrinos 4by 2
30MCP Simulation
- Zeke Insepov (MCSD) and Valentin Ivanov
(Muons,Inc)
31MCP Simulation
- Zeke Insepov (MCSD) and Valentin Ivanov
(Muons,Inc)
32MCP Simulation
- Zeke Insepov (MCSD) and Valentin Ivanov
(Muons,Inc)
33MCP Simulation
- Zeke Insepov (MCSD) and Valentin Ivanov
(Muons,Inc)
34Incom glass capillary substrate
- New technology- use Atomic Layer Deposition to
functionalize an inert substrate- cheaper, more
robust, and can even stripe to make dynode
structures (?)
35Another pore substrate (Incom)
36Self-Assembled Passive Substrates
- Self-assembled material- AAO (Anodic Aluminum
Oxide)- Hau Wang (MSD)
37Functionalization- ALD
- Jeff Elam, Thomas Prolier, Joe Libera (ESD)
38Functionalization- ALD
- Jeff Elam, Thomas Prolier, Joe Libera (ESD)
39Mechanical Assembly
- Difficult issues
- sealing a large flat panel object
- Assembly- can we avoid vacuum assembly? (I think
yes) - Sealed-tube clean living- outgassing, scrubbing,
surface-physics chemical interactions with
photo-cathode - Cost (a driver)
-
40Mechanical Assembly
41Mechanical Assembly
- 8 proto-type stack
- Design sketch
8 proto-type mock-up
42Mechanical Assembly
Luckily we have access to the worlds most
sophisticated test facilities at Argonne and UC
Lead bricks
43Front-end Electronics/Readout Waveform sampling
ASIC
First have to understand signal and noise in the
frequency domain
EFI Electronics Development Group Jean-Francois
Genat (Group Leader) and Hawaii (Gary Varner
group)
44Front-end Electronics
- Resolution depends on 3 parameters
- Number of PEs
- Analog Bandwidth
- Signal-to-Noise
- Wave-form sampling does well- CMOS (!)
45Front-end Electronics
- Wave-form sampling does well - esp at large Npe
46Front-end Electronics-II
- See J-F Genat, G. Varner, F. Tang, and HF
- arXiv 0810.5590v1 (Oct. 2008)- to be published
in Nucl. Instr. Meth.
47Front-end Electronics/Readout Waveform sampling
ASIC
Chicago/Hawaii collaborative effort Gary Varner
Hawaii group J.F. Genat, Herve Grabas, Eric
Oberla, Sam Meehan, Mary Heintz (EFI)
- Varner, Ritt, DeLanges, and Breton have
pioneered waveformsampling onto an array of
CMOS capacitors.
48First 0.13micron ASIC submitted 2 wks ago (!)
The chip submitted to MOSIS -- IBM 8RF (0.13
micron CMOS)- 4-channel prototype. Plan on 16
channels/chip- possibly 32 later.
49Returning to Neutrino Physics
Constantinos Melachrinos (Cypress) (idea of
Howard Nicholson)
- Example- DUSEL detector with 100 coverage and 3D
photon vertex reconstruction. - Need gt10,000 square meters (!) (100 ps resolution)
50Neutrino-Detector Specific Considerations
- Photo-cathode spectral response
Time dispersion is steep in the blue- also the
response will be more dependent on distance in
the blue. What is the optimal photo-cathode
spectral response?
- Notes (HJF opinions- nobody elses fault)
- III-V or nano-structured photo-cathodes may be
much easier and cheaper to assemble- will test
pure gas assembly for both bialkalis and III-V. - And may be much more robust long-term
- Trade-off is between photons and
dispersion/attenuation - Cannot be answered without a real simulation
INCLUDING track reconstruction (Matt, John, Bob,
)
51Neutrino-Detector Specific Considerations
- Photo-cathode Quantum Efficiency
From the June photo-cathode workshop it seems
plausible that there are big factors to be gained
in total QE (anti-reflection, opaque
photo-cathodes, funnel geometries, nano-scale
materials, active pumping, )
- Notes (HJF opinions- nobody elses fault)
- Basic physics of photon absorption, energy
transfer, electron emission is rich and fertile
for new ideas- e.g. see, e.g. Greg Engels talk
at the workshop for sub-psec energy pumping in
photo-cathodes (http hep.uchicago.edu/psec,
followed by Library) 50-years from now can we
do as well? - Requires major investment in materials science
facilities and expertese- not in HEP, but exist
at Argonne, e.g. - How does QE trade off vs coverage/cost in a
conventional detector, or in tracking detector?
(i.e. how much is QE worth?)
52Neutrino-Detector Specific Considerations
- Single Photon Response and Time resolution
Time response will depend on being able to
reconstruct tracks- one very attractive goal is
to be able to resolve pizeros from electrons.
Scale is set by radiation length in water- 40 cm-
so if we can do 100 psec, 1 inch, can we tell 2
vertices from one, 4 electrons from 1 ?
- Notes (HJF opinions- nobody elses fault)
- Cannot be answered without a real simulation
INCLUDING track reconstruction (Matt, John, Bob,
) - Affects choice of photo-cathode- may want to be
in the red (see Jerry Vavras talk at the June
Photo-cathode workshop- slides on psec web page
(click on Library). - Single photon response has its own detector
considerations
53Neutrino-Detector Specific Considerations
- Reconsidering Detector Aspect Ratio Constraints
Flat panels with load-bearing wall internal
construction may allow much higher pressures on
the front window, and should not fail
catastrophically as the volume inside is small.
- Notes (HJF opinions- nobody elses fault)
- Walls are cheaper to build underground than
ceilings (30?) - Larger coverage fraction allows larger
fiducial/total ratio- smaller cavern for same
fiducial volume - Larger coverage fraction allows working closer to
walls, gt can move towards rectangular book on
binding (tall, deep, narrow) geometry with less
loss of fiducial ratio. - Tall-deep narrow geometry plus track
reconstruction capability may also allow a
transverse magnetic field (across the narrow) for
lepton sign determination.
54Status
- We have been funded for 3 years by DOE
- We have yet to be able to access the funds- but
are within 1 mile of us. Many things are
waiting for funds. We will, however, prevail
(illegitumum non carborundum). - We are going ahead in the meantime due to support
from the Director and Mike Pellin and Harry
Weerts- Im amazed by Argonnes strength and
creativity and facilities! - We have a blog and a web page- fun to look at and
kibitz- http//hep.uchicago.edu/psec (dont be
bullied by the blog). - So far no show-stoppers (but show hasnt
started)..
55What would help us from the neutrino community
- Simulation of pizero/electron rejection at the
vertex for different coverages, QEs, geometries - Simulation of momentum resolution using track
reconstruction in our parameter space - Simulation(s) of performance vs QE
- Applications by grad students to our upcoming
(hardware) graduate student fellowship program - Ties to material science and engineering groups
interested in secondary-electron and
photo-electron processes - Much more interchange and interaction
56The End-
57BACKUP
58Photo-multiplier in a Pore
- Idea is to build a PMT structure inside each
pore- have a defined dynode chain of rings of
material with high secondary emissivity so that
the start of the shower has a controlled geometry
(and hence small TTS) - One problem is readout- how do you cover a large
area and preserve the good timing? - Proposed solution- build anode into pores,
capacitively couple into transmission lines to
preserve pulse shape.
59Jerrys s re-visited Solutions to get to
ltseveral psec resolution.
- TTS 3.8 psec (from a TTS of 27 psec)
- MCP development- reduce TTS- smaller
pores, smaller gaps, filter chromaticity, ANL
atomic-deposition dynodes and anodes. - Cos(theta)_cherenk 3.3 psec
- Same shape- spatial distribution (e.g.
strips and time-differences measure spot) - 3. Pad size 0.75 psec-
Transmission-line readout and shape
reconstruction - 4. Electronics 3.4 psec
fast sampling- should be able to get lt 2
psec (extrapolation of simulation to faster
pulses)
60Front-end Electronics/Readout Waveform sampling
ASIC
Herve Grabas
Herve Grabas, J.F. Genat, Gary Varner
61FY-08 Funds ChicagoAnode Design and
Simulation(Fukun Tang)
62What would TOFlt10psec do for you?
- (disclaimer- I know next to nothing about LHCb,
b-physics, or the Collab. goals..- Im making
this up.needs work- would be delighted to see
someone pick this up.)
- If you can stand a little active material in
front of your em calorimeter, convert photons- 10
psec is 3mm IN THE DIRECTION of the photon flight
path- can vertex photons. Do pizeros, etas, KL
and KS, - This allows all neutral signature mass
reconstruction- new channels. e.g. the CP
asymmetry in BS-gtp K0 (J.Rosner suggestion) - Etas in general are nice e.g. BS-gtJ/psi eta
(again, J.R.) - With two planes and time maybe get to 1 psec,300
microns along flight path- can one vertex from
timing? - Searches for rare heavy long-lived things (other
than bs)- need redundancy. - May help with pileup- sorting out vertices.