Answering Your Questions

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Answering Your Questions
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The Bible tells us that women should remain
silent in the church. Why is it okay then for
women to speak out in Bible class? Is this not
worship? Is there an example in the Bible that
tells us this is okay or are we adding to what
the Bible tells us?
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When does a football game begin?
When does the football game end?
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Genesis 225 And Abraham said to his young men,
"Stay here with the donkey the lad and I will go
yonder and worship, and we will come back to
you."
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Acts 2411 "because you may ascertain that it is
no more than twelve days since I went up to
Jerusalem to worship.
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1 Corinthians 113 But I want you to know that
the head of every man is Christ, the head of
woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.
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1 Timothy 213 For Adam was formed first, then
Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman
being deceived, fell into transgression.
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1 Peter 31 Wives, likewise, be submissive to
your own husbands, that even if some do not obey
the word, they, without a word, may be won by the
conduct of their wives, 2 when they observe your
chaste conduct accompanied by fear.
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Acts 1824 Now a certain Jew named Apollos, born
at Alexandria, an eloquent man and mighty in the
Scriptures, came to Ephesus. 25 This man had
been instructed in the way of the Lord and being
fervent in spirit, he spoke and taught accurately
the things of the Lord, though he knew only the
baptism of John. 26 So he began to speak boldly
in the synagogue. When Aquila and Priscilla heard
him, they took him aside and explained to him the
way of God more accurately.
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What do you think about woman saying amen to a
prayer in the worship service?
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1 Corinthians 1434 Let your women keep silent in
the churches, for they are not permitted to
speak but they are to be submissive, as the law
also says. 35 And if they want to learn
something, let them ask their own husbands at
home for it is shameful for women to speak in
church.
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What is meant by silent? Siago can mean to stop
talking or to keep something a secret.
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Luke 936 When the voice had ceased, Jesus was
found alone. But they kept quiet, and told no one
in those days any of the things they had seen.
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1 Corinthians 1427 If anyone speaks in a tongue,
let there be two or at the most three, each in
turn, and let one interpret. 28 But if there is
no interpreter, let him keep silent in church,
and let him speak to himself and to God. 29 Let
two or three prophets speak, and let the others
judge. 30 But if anything is revealed to another
who sits by, let the first keep silent. 31 For
you can all prophesy one by one, that all may
learn and all may be encouraged.
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• If Siago means absolute silence then women cant
  
• Correct her child, sneeze or cough
• Sing (Would contradict Eph. 519 and Col. 316)
• Confess Christ in the assembly
• Speak at any gathering of the saints

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1 Timothy 211 Let a woman learn in silence with
all submission. 12 And I do not permit a woman
to teach or to have authority over a man, but to
be in silence.
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1 Timothy 28 I desire therefore that the men
pray everywhere, lifting up holy hands, without
wrath and doubting
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Amen means surely, truly and it can mean so it
is, so be it, may it be fulfilled
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It was a custom, which passed over from the
synagogues into the Christian assemblies, that
when he who had read or discoursed had offered up
a solemn prayer to God, the others in attendance
responded Amen, and thus made the substance of
what was uttered their own
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Deuteronomy 2715 'Cursed is the one who makes a
carved or molded image, an abomination to the
LORD, the work of the hands of the craftsman, and
sets it up in secret.' And all the people shall
answer and say, 'Amen!'
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Is it okay for a young boy who is not a Christian
to lead the closing prayer? If not, why is it
okay for them to lead singing?
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Matthew 2819 "Go therefore and make disciples of
all the nations, baptizing them in the name of
the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
20 "teaching them to observe all things that I
have commanded you .
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Hebrews 1024 And let us consider one another in
order to stir up love and good works, 25 not
forsaking the assembling of ourselves together,
as is the manner of some
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Acts 2028 "Therefore take heed to yourselves and
to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has
made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God
which He purchased with His own blood.
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Hebrews 1317 Obey those who rule over you, and
be submissive, for they watch out for your souls,
as those who must give account. Let them do so
with joy and not with grief, for that would be
unprofitable for you.
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Is 2 Thessalonians 21-12 and 1 Timothy 41-5 are
referring to the Catholic Church?
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1 Timothy 41 Now the Spirit expressly says that
in latter times some will depart from the faith,
giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of
demons, 2 speaking lies in hypocrisy, having
their own conscience seared with a hot iron, 3
forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain
from foods which God created to be received with
thanksgiving by those who believe and know the
truth. 4 For every creature of God is good, and
nothing is to be refused if it is received with
thanksgiving 5 for it is sanctified by the word
of God and prayer.
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2 Thessalonians 21 Now, brethren, concerning the
coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering
together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon
shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or
by word or by letter, as if from us, as though
the day of Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive
you by any means for that Day will not come
unless the falling away comes first, and the man
of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who
opposes and exalts himself above all that is
called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits
as God in the temple of God, showing himself that
he is God. 5 Do you not remember that when I was
still with you I told you these things? 6 And
now you know what is restraining, that he may be
revealed in his own time. 7 For the mystery of
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lawlessness is already at work only He who now
restrains will do so until He is taken out of the
way. 8 And then the lawless one will be
revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the
breath of His mouth and destroy with the
brightness of His coming. 9 The coming of the
lawless one is according to the working of Satan,
with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and
with all unrighteous deception among those who
perish, because they did not receive the love of
the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for
this reason God will send them strong delusion,
that they should believe the lie, 12 that they
all may be condemned who did not believe the
truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
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• Paul established the church at Thessalonica in
  Acts 17 during his second missionary journey
• Some were confused about those who had died and
  corrects them 1 Thessalonians 413-511
• Some became idle and corrects them 1
  Thessalonians 411-12

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2 Thessalonians 21 Now, brethren, concerning the
coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering
together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon
shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or
by word or by letter, as if from us, as though
the day of Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive
you by any means for that Day will not come
unless the falling away comes first, and the man
of sin is revealed, the son of perdition,
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2 Timothy 216 But shun profane and idle
babblings, for they will increase to more
ungodliness. 17 And their message will spread
like cancer. Hymenaeus and Philetus are of this
sort, 18 who have strayed concerning the truth,
saying that the resurrection is already past and
they overthrow the faith of some.
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2 Thessalonians 23 and the man of sin is
revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes
and exalts himself above all that is called God
or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in
the temple of God, showing himself that he is
God. This phrase falling away comes from the
Greek word apostasia from which we get our
English word apostasy
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In some sense, the Man of Sin will sit in the
temple of God (v. 4). The temple is not a
reference to the Jewish house of worship. The
Greek word is naos, used by Paul eight times
never does he employ the term of the Jewish
temple. In fact, after the death of Christ, the
Jewish temple is never again called the temple of
God (Newton, p. 441). Rather it is used of the
Christians body (1 Cor. 619), or of the church
as Gods spiritual house (1 Cor. 316,17 Eph.
221). The suggestion is this this unholy being
is viewed as a church character.
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The expression sitteth may hint of unparalleled
arrogance (Ellicott, pp. 119-120). Mason notes
that the language describes the Man of Sin as
attempting to exact divine homage from people
(p. 169). Moreover, this Son of Perdition sets
himself forth as God. The present participle
(sets forth continually) reveals that this
presumptive posture is characteristic of the Man
of Sin. This person represents himself as God,
either (a) by making claims that belong only to
deity (b) by receiving adoration reserved
exclusively for God or, (c) by usurping
prerogatives which only God can accomplish.
Clearly, the Man of Sin is an ecclesiastical
character.
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2 Thessalonians 25 Do you not remember that when
I was still with you I told you these things? 6
And now you know what is restraining, that he may
be revealed in his own time.
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2 Thessalonians 27 For the mystery of
lawlessness is already at work only He who now
restrains will do so until He is taken out of the
way. 8 And then the lawless one will be
revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the
breath of His mouth and destroy with the
brightness of His coming.
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2 Thessalonians 29 The coming of the lawless one
is according to the working of Satan, with all
power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all
unrighteous deception among those who perish,
because they did not receive the love of the
truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this
reason God will send them strong delusion, that
they should believe the lie, 12 that they all
may be condemned who did not believe the truth
but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
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Bloomfield calls these pretended miracles (p.
345). These wonders are not in the category of
Christs miracles. Lenski has well commented So
many are ready to attribute real miracles to
Satan and to his agents the Scriptures never do
(p. 426). In identifying the Man of Sin, one must
thus look for a post-apostolic movement that
claims to prove its authenticity by miracles.
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• Possibilities given by others
• Pagan mythology
• Satan
• The principle of evil (Islam, Communism, etc)
• The text tells of a particular movement, the
  falling away (v. 3). How does that refer to
  Communism, etc.? Moreover, there are too many
  personal references within the narrative to
  dismiss it as mere personification. Finally, it
  is the man of sin, with the article pointing to
  a definite influence, rather than a generic one.

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• Judaism
• Roman ruler
• As Raymond Kelcy observed Paul contemplates the
  man of lawlessness being in existence and waging
  opposition at the time the Lord returns the
  Roman empire has long ago ceased to be (p. 161).
  

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• The future AntiChrist
• Millennialists (and some others) contend that the
  Man of Sin is an individual embodying anti-God
  power who is still to arise before the future day
  of the Lord (Mare, p. 1073).
• As this evil began in the apostles days, and
  was to continue in the world till the second
  coming of Christ in power and great glory it
  necessarily follows, that it was to be carried on
  not by one man, but by a succession of men in
  several ages (p. 453).

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The papal dynasty of the apostate church of Rome.
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As Barnes says Most Protestant commentators
have referred it to the great apostasy under the
Papacy (p. 80).
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• The apostasy
• Forbidding to marry and forbidding the eating of
  meat 1 Tim. 41-5
• The Catholic Church
• Forbids the eating of meat on Friday
• Promotes celibacy
• Forbids the priests and pope from marrying
• Will not marry a couple during lent

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The many corruptions of the divine
economychanges in the plan of redemption (e.g.,
sprinkling, infant baptism, etc.), alteration of
worship (e.g., the mass, the veneration of Mary,
etc.)were progressively implemented. Catholicism
evolved as a defection from the original faith.
This history has been graphically detailed in
John F. Rowes, The History of Apostasies (1958,
Rosemead, CA Old Paths Publishing Co.).
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Not Revealed in the First Century
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Lawless The pope doeth whatsoever he listeth
wills, even things unlawful, and is more than
God (quoted by Newton, p. 456). Attwater, a
Catholic writer, has shown that, according to
Roman Catholicism, Tradition, i.e., the voice
of the church, is superior to the Scriptures (pp.
41-42). "Like two sacred rivers flowing from
paradise, the Bible and Divine Tradition contain
the Word of God. . .of the two, tradition is to
us more clear and safe." (Catholic Belief, by J.
Faa Di Bruno, p. 33.)
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God opposing
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• Sitting in the temple of God and making himself
  out to be God.
• the Pope is the head of the church on earth and
  Jesus is the head of the church in heaven.
• Paul says Jesus is, The head singular of the
  body, the church (Col. 118)

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More ways the Pope makes himself out to be
God 1. Making claims that belong only to
deityOur Lord God the pope another God upon
the earth, king of kings, and lord of lords
(Newton, p. 456). 2. Accepting adoration not
proper for a man. Men bow before the papal
dignitary, kiss his feet, ring, etc.
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These candidates for priesthood lay down before
the Pope to worship him.
This Cardinal bows down and kisses his ring
before the media for all to see
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This statue was first called "JUPITER" in the
Pagan temples of Rome, but it was later moved to
the Vatican and renamed "St. Peter."
In fact, so many people have kissed this foot
that the finished has worn off of it completely!
The golden bronze has been revealed underneath,
and the features of the toe have been almost
completely rubbed away from the soft kisses of
the worshipping Catholics.
If you look closely you will see how the right
foot is extended forward on the pedestal so that
WORSHIPERS can come forward to BOW DOWN and KISS
the foot.
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3. Pope Boniface VIII, in the bull "Unam Sanctum"
issued in 1302, stated that outside the Catholic
Church, "there is neither salvation nor remission
of sins." He further said ". . .it is
altogether necessary to salvation for every human
creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff.
(Eternal Kingdom, p. 196.) John 146 "I am the
way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the
Father except through Me.
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4. Their doctrine also gives their priest the
power to forgive sins. For example, in Catholic
doctrine, Absolution is a judicial act whereby a
priest remits the sins of a penitent who has
contrition, has made confession and promises
satisfaction (Attwater, p. 3).
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Claims of miracles Conway, a Catholic apologist,
states that God has allowed His saints to work
miracles to prove their divine commission to
speak in His name, and to give the world a clear
proof of their eminent sanctity. The Church
always requires four, or in some instances six,
miracles before she proceeds to beatify or
canonize a saint (p. 44).
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Early Stages at Work in Pauls Day Newton says
The seeds of popery were sown in the apostles
time (p. 457). Idolatry had invaded the church
(1 Cor. 1014), even in the worship of angels
(Col. 218). Handling the word of God deceitfully
(2 Cor. 42) had begun strife and division were
affecting the church (1 Cor. 33). Gospel truth
was sacrificed for the sake of money (cf. 1 Tim.
65 Tit. 111)compare the practice of simony
in Catholicism, i.e., the purchase of church
offices. Distinctions were made regarding meats
(1 Cor. 88), and human traditions were creeping
into the church (Col. 223). Certain men (such as
Diotrephes) were beginning to exert preeminence
and to flex their ecclesiastical muscles (3 Jn.
9,10). Out of these attitudes and actions, the
papacy finally was born.
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If the man of sin is the papal dynasty then what
was restraining it from coming to power?
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McClintock and Strong, citing numerous sources
from the early church fathers (e.g.,
Tertullian, Chrysostom, Hippolytus, Jerome,
etc.), said that the patristic writers generally
consider the restraining force to be the Roman
empire (p. 255).
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During the first three hundred years of the
history of Christianity it was a persecuted
illegal religion. This fact hindered any
power-hungry Christian bishop from assuming a
lot of authority. In the years that followed the
adoption of Christianity as the state religion
(325 AD), emperors like Constantine and
Theodosius considered themselves not only the
head of the state, but head of the church as
well. For example, Constantine called the council
of Nicea to settle the dispute about the nature
of Christ. In the fourth century as the
barbarians began to invade the Roman empire, it
became weaker and weaker, and its emperors became
less and less strong.
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In those times many of the bishops of Rome were
strong willed, capable men. Gradually the Roman
bishops came to have more power and the emperors
less. The Roman bishops were further strengthened
when the capital of the Roman empire was
transferred to Constantinople in the East. Leo
the Great, bishop of Rome 440-461 AD, greatly
strengthened the authority of his office. On two
occasions he saved Rome from being sacked, first
by Atilla the Hun, and secondly by Genseric the
Vandal. In return for such service the Roman
emperor gave Leo authority over the bishops and
churches in every province.
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The Western Roman Empire fell in 486 AD, and this
gave the Roman bishops almost a free hand in
Europe. Bishop Gelasius (492-496) contended that
although the king rules over men in the world,
yet he is duty bound in spiritual things to
submit to his religious prelates. Later Roman
bishops, such as Gregory the Great (590-604)
formed alliances with civil rulers in the West,
as well as emperors in the East. While some
strong emperors occasionally resisted the popes
for many centuries, the popes became so strong
that kings (such as Charlemagne) received their
crowns from the hands of popes, and the popes
sometimes commanded people in various countries
to disobey their kings when the kings would not
submit to the authority of the Roman church.
(Thinking Through Thessalonians, Wilbur Fields,
p. 202,203.)
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The work of the man of sin is to continue to
exist in one for or another until Christ comes
again.
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The identification of the papacy and its
religious apparatus with Pauls words in 2
Thessalonians 23-10 was the prevailing view for
more than a thousand years, a view supported by
the writings and interpretations of many of the
most brilliant men who ever lived on earth and,
on that account, there is no way for this writer
to accept the sneers and snickers with which this
interpretation is greeted by many modern
commentators, as being an effective refutation of
the arguments upholding it (p. 104).
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