Title: 3. What do you want your post-retirement standard of living to be?
13. What do you want your post-retirement standard
of living to be?
- Realistic strategy is to plan on having the same
standard of living both pre- and post-retirement.
2Retirement Income Options for Discretionary
Retirement Savings?
- Typical Considerations include
- minimizing risk (via diversification)
- minimizing taxes
- some liquidity
- ease of transfer upon the death of the retiree
3What happens to my property if I die without a
will?
- Probate
- Legal process required to administer an estate or
a will - Only legal way to change the title when the owner
has died - Costly
- 1500-2000 for the average estate in Utah
- Time consuming
- National average 9 months 2 years
- UT typically 2-3 months
- Source Kyle H. Barrick, estate planning attorney
4Intestate Succession Laws
- Intestate succession laws
- Property transfers with no will according to the
law of the state in which you reside - Surviving spouse descendents parents
descendents of parents ½ to each set of
grandparents or descendents of grandparents
state of Utah school fund - 120 hour survival rule
- If you do not survive the decedent by 120 hours,
you are treated as predeceasing the decedent - Step-parent rules
- If decedent has descendents that are not
descendents of the surviving spouse, the spouse
inherits 50,000 plus ½ of the balance of the
remaining estate
5Property Ownership Transfer Laws
- Joint tenancy with rights of survivorship
(JTWROS) - John and Mary will inherit from each other
- Tenancy in common
- John leaves his portion to Susie
- Mary leaves her portion to Bobby
- If it is not specified, Utah law assumes tenancy
in common
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7Another interpretation of PVA
- The present value of an annuity (PVA) calculation
answers the following question - How much do I need to have invested today so that
I can withdraw a certain sum each year for a
specified time period?
8- Suppose
- you aspire to have a post-retirement consumption
per year (FV) of 30,000, - A life expectancy of 30 more years after
retirement (n), and - A real rate of return on investments of 3
- PVA 588,013
94. What interest rate will you get on retirement
investments?
- Difficult to answer with high degree of accuracy
because - of investment risks
- But remember
- The real rate of return on ALL financial
investments has averaged 3.5 over the last 100
years - And the real rate of return on stock market
investments has averaged 7 over the last 100
years
105. What other retirement saving is being done for
you?
- Social Security
- Private Pension Plans
- There are some elements of risk associated with
each of these...
11Risks with mandatory savings plans...
- Social Security
- solvency of plan in the future
- future changes in eligibility rules
- Private Pension Plans
- DB plans and default risk - Pension Benefit
Guaranty Corporation - DB plans and vesting requirements / portability
12The SS crisis not enough workers/retirees ratio
Table 2 Americans Age 65 or Older 1880-1990 Table 2 Americans Age 65 or Older 1880-1990
Year Number of Americans Age 65 or Older
1880189019001910192019301940195019601970198019902000 1.7 million2.4 million3.0 million3.9 million4.9 million6.7 million9.0 million12.7 million17.2 million20.9 million26.1 million31.9 million34.9 million
136. When will you start to save?
- The present value payment (PVP) formula
- Suppose
- savings goal FV 588,013
- r 3
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156. When will you start to save?
- If you save over a 20 year period
- PVP 21,833 per year
- If you save over a 30-year period
- PVP 12,359 per year
- If you save over a 40-year period
- PVP 7,798 per year
- The earlier you start investing for retirement,
the less you must personally invest
16One more example
- Try it with r7, n40, FV588,013
- 2,945 per year
17Just remember
- Increased retirement savings
- Increased Freedom
- Dont rely on the govt or an inheritance
- Take responsibility for yourself
- ANYONE can become a millionaire
- Its all about choices
18How much should you invest for retirement?
- A common benchmark figure used by financial
planners is 10 of your income - This assumes that your income will grow at a 7
real r before retirement and 3 real r after
retirement - Assumes the same pre- and post-retirement
consumption
19But, this savings goal may be more daunting if...
- Labor force participation is intermittent
- reduces Social Security and risks eligibility
- reduces likelihood of vesting in a private
pension plan (temptation to cash out if option
offered!) - Earnings are low
- high opportunity costs of investing for
retirement - cant capitalize on tax advantages of defined
contribution plans, IRAs, etc.
20Whos at Greatest Risk of Under-Saving for
Retirement?
- Women
- Greater discontinuities in labor market work
- More likely to think of husband as being the only
one who needs to have retirement savings because
he is consistent wage earner. - Reliance on Social Security dependent benefits as
retirement savings - Greater longevity
21- But
- four out of five women who do not end their
marriages through divorce will out-live their
husbands - these women on average will live another 15 years
(with little prospect of remarriage) - In those households where husbands have private
pension plans, 60 do not continue after his death
22- Social Security benefits are also cut back when a
spouse dies - Roughly 1/3 of all newly widowed women who were
non-poor prior to their husbands deaths
experience one or more years of poverty in the
first five years after they become widows - BOTTOM LINE - Saving for retirement is critical
for women
23Pros fess up to their retirement-building blunders
- USA Today 9/23/07
- Mark Zandi (Chief Economist at Economy.com)
- Mistake Letting savings languish
- He saved in low-yielding cash instruments through
his 30s - Wishes he had set up automatic transfers to a
stock index fund
24- Sheryl Garrett (founder of Garrett Planning
Network fee-only financial planners for middle
income consumers) - Mistake Investing in time shares
- Skip the freebies and dont get caught up in the
pitch - Time shares are more expensive than you think
25- Tom Gardner (founder of The Motley Fool)
- Mistake Selling too soon
- Think of yourself as an investor in the business,
and not an investor in stock - Quotes Buffett saying, I would have made more
money if I had never sold a share of stock Id
bought since I was 11 years old. I lost a lot of
money fiddling around.
26- Robert Willens (managing director Lehman Bros)
- Mistake Waiting too long to sell
- Have a stop-loss in your head I will sell if it
loses this much - Jim Gillespie (CEO of Coldwell Banker)
- Mistake Begin saving too late
- Start now! Dont wait for 8-10 years
27- Robert Rodriguez (manager of FPA funds)
- Mistake Overconfidence
- Always be suspicious dont think you know more
than you really do