Opposites, Zipes, other modern stuff

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Opposites, Zipes, other modern stuff

• First stories provide images
• Example of Annettes son

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The mother- fatherland statue in
Kyiv ??????????? ????
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Is she a phallic female?
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I ask again is she a phallic female?
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Mother archetype

• Nurturing and devouring
• Strong and protects children/needs to be defended
• Forgiving and supportive/demanding
• Sexy and repulsive

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A bit more on opposites

• Not one opposition, but multiple
• Strong is not just opposed to weak
• Ilia of epic, Sviatogor
• The nag who is time and the old woman who is
  death
• How Robin Hood died
• Power of opposites in ritual, in passive
  resistance

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Jack Zipes

• Tales most of us know are NOT from oral setting
  they are from books
• Oral setting has correctives books do not
• What are oral correctives?
• He shows how books, even when they present
  traditional tales, promote the agenda of the
  author/editor/compiler
• You assume you are getting pure stuff the story
  filtered by tradition, but no!

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Nay-say a bit

• Personal agenda in oral situation
• Pressure on an author/compiler
• Publication can be cartoon as well as book
• Discuss cartoon we saw