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Title: COMMENTS ON SUBMISSIONS ON FIREARMS CONTROL BILL, 2006


1
COMMENTS ON SUBMISSIONS ON FIREARMS CONTROL BILL,
2006
  • PORTFOLIO COMMITTEE
  • FOR SAFETY AND SECURITY
  • 23 August 2006

2
AUDIT VERSUS RELICENSING
  • Some presenters asked for plain audit, and that
    all firearms licensed under repealed Act, be
    retained.
  • Others request audit with competency testing, and
    to retain all firearms licensed under the
    repealed Act.
  • To replace relicensing process now with audit,
    would be counter-productive and disruptive. Audit
    with competency testing differs very little from
    relicensing process, if firearms limited to
    numbers of new Act.
  • Proposal Retain relicensing process, but confirm
    policy that existing firearms will be relicensed,
    subject to the requirements of the new Act
    (numbers, competency testing and motivation for
    specific category).
  • Policy for relicensing should give full
    recognition for existing ownership, within
    numbers limitation.

3
SILENCERS
  • Propose that section 94 of the Act be amended to
    include a silencer.
  • This will ensure that only persons who are
    licensed to own a firearm may be in possession of
    a silencer
  • Section 94 of the principal Act is hereby amended
    by the substitution for subsection (1) of the
    following 
  • (1) For purposes of this section, firearm part
    means a slide, bolt, or breach-block, or a
    device to muffle or moderate the report of a
    firearm.

4
Definition of ammunition primers
  • It was requested that primers on its own should
    not be regarded as ammunition.
  • Even under the repealed Act it was regarded as
    ammunition.
  • Primers are needed for reloading purposes and it
    is believed the position should remain unchanged.

5
Dispossession Define
  • It is proposed that it be defined as follows
  • dispossession, for the purposes of section
    118, means to have parted with a firearm in a
    manner which is in contravention of section
    120(10)(a) of the Act, and dispossessed shall
    have a corresponding meaning
  • Section 120(1)(a) prohibits the selling,
    supplying or in any manner giving possession to a
    person who is not allowed to possess a firearm
    or ammunition in terms of Act. Present wording of
    section 118 only covers lost, theft or
    destruction.

6
Self Defence / Necessary Defence
  • It was requested that the term used in section
    13, namely self defence, should be substituted
    by necessary defence or private defence.
  • As explained the licence is granted primarily for
    self-defence and if it is used in defence of
    another person, section 13(4) provides that such
    firearms may be used for a lawful purpose.

7
Number of rounds in possessionof Collectors
  • Propose that calibre be defined as follows
  • (c) calibre, for purposes of sections 18(1)(b)
    and 19(3), means cartridge type defined by
    dimensions, make, mark and model of the
    ammunition in question.
  • This will only be applicable to collectors.

8
Provisional licence
  • It was asked that provisional approval be given
    where a deposit needs to be paid in order to have
    a firearm custom built, or where a firearm is
    replaced with another, also when a firearm is
    re-barreled.
  • It can be dealt with administratively by
    approving such licence, but only issuing it once
    conditions have been complied with.
  • In cases where application is made for import,
    the approval of import is only done where the
    license will be approved as well, and can
    therefore be regarded as provisional approval

9
Renewal of competency
  • Do not do away with field test.
  • Competency runs with period of validity of
    licence.
  • False information is offence.
  • Information except mental capacity, alcoholism,
    drug dependency on system
  • Issues such as mental capacity drugs, alcohol not
    on our system.
  • Any red lights must be followed up with field
    investigation, in same manner as initial
    application.

10
Brokering
  • Adequately covered in National Conventional Arms
    Control Act.

11
LOAN / USE OF FIREARM
  • Age limit proposed ) (ISS) eg 18 years
  • Broader interpretation requested of immediate
    supervision and stepped age- 14 years under
    immediate supervision above 14 years on farm or
    property not under immediate supervision.
  • Recommends Immediate supervision should be
    retained -to allow anything else would bring us
    in position where we were with permission with
    letter of owner which was deleted in old Act.
  • Do not think age limit is necessary- remains
    responsibility of the owner of firearm-but must
    be under his immediate supervision.

12
New Category of licence, namely professional
hunter
  • Can and should register as business in hunting,
    because that is what person do.

13
SASSETA Certificates
  • SAPS acknowledges the problem experienced with
    SASETA certificates
  • We will look at Regulations and consider the
    deletion for requirement of SASSETA certificate.
    Take up with SETA/Dept of Labour.
  • Certificate issued by service provider who is
    accredited anyway
  • Administratively SAPS can use service provider
    certificate and receive SASSETA certificate for
    record purposes only.

14
Admission of Guilt Fines
  • See S v Makolane 2006(1) SACR 589 (TPD)
  • Confirms principle that where admission of guilt
    is paid, that it is not automatically ground for
    unfitness.
  • However, a pattern, or exceptional circumstances
    could constitute grounds for unfitness.
  • Court also stated that present Act, section
    103(2) is difficult to understand.
  • Section 103 of Act did not preclude the use of
    the procedure set out in section 57A of the CPA,
    and the accuseds admission of guilt and the
    imposed fine were in order.
  • Propose that amendment proposed should be
    retained.

15
RELATIONSHIP NCACC
  • There is a perception that all exports will as a
    result of the amendment of section 96 have to be
    channeled through NCACC.
  • The relevant section of NCACC determines that the
    NCACC may determine which exports must also be
    approved by them, and channeled through SAPS to
    NCACC
  • Only those determined will be be submitted only
    aligns the Firearms Control Act with NCACC Act.
  • There was complaint about the low threshold- that
    must be taken up with the NCACC.

16
Definition of muzzle loader
  • Agree definition must be amended
  • muzzle loading firearm means-
  • (a) a barreled device that can fire only a single
    shot per barrel and requires after each shot
    fired the individual reloading through the muzzle
    end of the barrel or cylinder with separate
    components consisting of a
  • (i)   measured charge of black powder or
    equivalent propellant
  • (ii)   wad and
  • (iii)   lead bullet, sabot or shot functioning as
    a projectile,
  • and ignited with a flint, match, wheel or
    percussion cap or..

17
Definition of muzzle loader
  • Above definition will address miniture and other
    muzzle loading canon.
  • See cylinder would depend on how we deal with
    cap and ball revolvers.
  • They were not previously included in definition
    of firearm, because not loaded in muzzle, but in
    cylinder.
  • Is cumbersome to reload and differs from other
    muzzleloaders in that it can fire six shots in
    succession before reloading.

18
Cap and Ball revolvers
  • Policy decision needed.
  • Can fire six shots in succession.
  • Is cumbersome to reload.
  • Cannot be compared to modern revolvers and
    pistols.
  • Not evidence used in crime- one case where such
    bullet found in body.
  • Would probably not be preferred weapon.
  • Poses a greater danger than single shot muzzle
    loaders.

19
Storage of firearm on dealers premises
  • Relates to Regulation
  • Do not agree with problem.

20
Weekly returns gunsmiths
  • Relates to Regulations only.

21
Testing of firearms by dealer/gunsmith accredited
range
  • Not aware that this is real problem.
  • Do not agree that gunsmith use other shooting
    ranges to test fire firearms

22
Competency certificates for muzzle loader
  • Request that any competency certificate must be
    acceptable.
  • Collectors/associations willing to develop
    specific course.
  • Differ from other firearms.
  • Not in agreement that any competency certificate
    be acceptable

23
Role of heritage association
  • It was pointed out by collectors that Heritage
    Agency SAHRA could only play a role in respect of
    historic value Proposal
  • (a) A firearm which may be possessed in a private
    collection is any firearm approved for
    collection by an accredited collectors
    association, based upon such historical,
    technological, scientific, heritage,
    educational, cultural, commemorative,
    investment, rarity, thematic or artistic value
    as determined by the association, or
  • (b) where a firearm is approved for collection as
    a heritage item as defined in the National
    Heritage Resources Act, 1999 (Act No. 11 of
    1999), such approval shall be subject to
    confirmation by the South African Heritage
    Resources Agency or its appointed agents.

24
Section 119 additional licence
  • Requirement of proof of handing over opposed
  • This relates to situation where a husband and
    wife both are holders of a licence to posses the
    same firearm and firearm is lost.
  • The spouses cannot be obliged to testify against
    each other.
  • Proposed documentary proof would mean that spouse
    will need to document handing over of firearm
    every time, which is not practical in household.
  • The value of the proposed amendment in household
    situation is doubtful and it is proposed to
    delete it from the Bill.

25
Competency certificate for collector section 10
  • Add category to possess a firearm as public
    collector
  • Amend Clause 9
  • (1) An application for a competency certificate
    to possess a firearm, to trade in firearms, to
    manufacture firearms, or to possess a firearm
    as a private collector in a specific category or
    to carry on business as a gunsmith must be
    delivered to the Designated Firearms Officer
    responsible for the area in which the applicant
    normally resides or in which the applicants
    business is or will be situated, as the case may
    be.

26
Competency certificate for collector section 10
  • Include in Clause 9 iB possess a firearm as a
    private collector in a specific category

27
Making Inoperable of Restricted Firearms for
collection
  • The idea is to ensure that the process is non
    damaging.
  • It is so that collectors are responsible, but
    possession of automatic weapons by private
    individuals should be restricted in accordance
    with the SADC Protocol.
  • Regulations which will describe process of making
    firearm inoperable will be drafted through
    consultation with the Collectors.

28
Protection order- interim/final
  • See section 9 of Domestic Violence Act 116 of
    1998
  • 9         (1) The court must order a member of
    the South African Police Service to seize any arm
    or dangerous weapon in the possession or under
    the control of a respondent, if the court is
    satisfied on the evidence placed before it,
    including any affidavits supporting an
    application referred to in section 4 (1), that-
          
  •   

29
Protection order- interim/final
  • (a)     the respondent has threatened or
    expressed the intention to kill or injure
    himself or herself, or any person in a domestic
    relationship, whether or not by means of such
    arm or dangerous weapon or       
  • (b)     possession of such arm or dangerous
    weapon is not in the best interests of the
    respondent or any other person in a domestic
    relationship, as a result of the respondent's-
    (i)     state of mind or mental condition
             
  • (ii)     inclination to violence or          
  • (iii)     use of or dependence on intoxicating
    liquor or drugs.

30
Protection order- interim/final
  • (2) Any (fire)arm seized in terms of subsection
    (1) must be handed over to the holder of an
    office in the South African Police Service and
    the court must direct the clerk of the court to
    refer a copy of the record of the evidence
    concerned to the National Commissioner of the
    South African Police Service to consider
    declaration of unfitnes to possess firearm.
  • Upon receipt of above information, any pending
    application for a competency certificate or
    firearms licence is placed on hold until the
    matter is finalised.   

31
Imitation firearms
  • It is correct that there is an anomaly that any
    person may be in possession of a deactivated
    automatic firearm, but not of an imitation of
    such firearm which also cannot fire ammunition.
  • Section 2 of the Dangerous Weapons Act provides
    that Any person who is in possession of any
    object which so resembles a firearm, that in the
    circumstances under which such person is in
    possession thereof, it is likely to be mistaken
    for a real firearm, shall be guilty of an
    offence, unless he is able to prove that he had
    at no time any intention of using the object for
    any unlawful purpose.

32
Imitation firearms
  • Dangerous Weapons Act provides for such
    possession in respect of all firearms.
  • Propose that provision relating to imitation in
    FAC Act be amended
  • (e) any imitation of any device contemplated in
    paragraph (a),(b), (c), or (d)
  • (a) relates to automatic firearm.

33
Possession of rifle grenades
  • Include in Clause 12 the rifle grenades- this
    will have effect that rifle grenades may be
    possessed by collectors and if deactivated.

34
Disposal of ammunition by collectors
  • Amend Clause 16, to include ammunition in
    collection, in other words, a collector may
    donate or sell ammunition without intervention of
    a dealer subject to conditions to be prescribed.
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