Title: TAP2002 Ships
1AGENDA
- Balance of 1st order review process
- Identify any remaining issues which need to be
solved for acceptance. - Define how these remaining issues must be
addressed in order for the GB to be accepted
(Distinguish between editorial issues and
substance) - Start the discussions about the need for
long-term scientific improvements beyond this
project (identify priority areas and funding
opportunities)
21st vs 2nd order draft evaluation revision
-general
- The reference Guidebook (2006) or CEPMEIP (2004)
are not acceptable, where is not possible to
introduce original reference write something as
TFEIP or expert evaluation on available
information or similar - In some cases different technologies/abatement
systems are defined introducing EFs for each
technology (for example for Volume 2C) in some
case new technologies/new products are introduced
under abatement (for example for Volume 3). We
think the approach must be unique! - Clearify the way to assign the interval
confidence - Clearify why some SNAP have no EFs
31st vs 2nd order draft evaluation revision -1
- A.1.a Public electricity and heat production
- the 1st order tables was unclear and unusable,
the "interpretation" of the "old" GB EF is an
unacceptable simplification - The EFs was clearly inadequate
- A.1.b Petroleum refining
- The tables was unclear and unusable, the only
complete work by Concawe was not used - CONCLUSION The chapter was unacceptable!
- FD accept all the EP suggestion but we dont have
the time to review the chapters
41st vs 2nd order draft evaluation revision - 2
- A.2 Manufacturing industries and constr.
- Some general preliminary comment is necessary.
This section of the Guidebook and the related
"old" chapter was the most critical ones. In the
past the structure of the guidebook can give rise
to double count of emissions. The new Guidebook
have to resolve this problems, but this was not
the case - We have two kind of technologies
- the SNAP Group 0301 Combustion in boilers, gas
turbines and stationary - the SNAP Groups 0302 Process furnaces without
contact and 0303 Processes with contact
51st vs 2nd order draft evaluation revision - 3
- For the first group the conditions are very
similar to 1.A.1. An very simple example is the
following in the paper industry the main
emissions arise from drying processes in which
water vapour is used this vapour come from a
boiler, so the emission from this boiler is very
similar to emissions in 1.A.1. Where these
emissions are allocated? The only "additional"
non boilers emissions from 1.A.2 can be emissions
from evaporation of organic substances used in
paper manufacturing that can evaporate in the
drying process. The FOD" Guidebook don't take
into account these last and report EFs for
combustion that can be different from EF in
1.A.1. Then we have a lot of similar cases for
example Combustion in Food Industry, Mechanic
Industry, ecc. What emissions factors? We need a
specific subsection? - Next we have old SNAP 0302 and 0303 group and
related new chapters.
61st vs 2nd order draft evaluation revision - 4
- In these chapters must be inserted only emissions
come from processes in which special condition or
the contact between fuel and materials produces
different combustion characteristics and
different EFs essentially process furnaces. For
these applications, all the existing
documentation (and for example BREF of the IPPC
directive) reports EFs in g pollutants/kg
product. Also statistical data are available for
production and not for energy consumption of
single product (for example are available sinter
production and fuel consumption in iron steel
industry but not fuel consumption in sinter
plant). If the fuel approach is mandatory then
1. It's necessary to develop specific emission
factors, only from fuel, not to copy "old" EF
that derive from another approach (example US EPA
approach, that take into account the overall
process 2. Specific fuel consumptions in GJ/Mg of
product MUST BE REPORTED. INFORMATION EXISTS AND
CAN BE RETRIEVED IN IPPC BREF DOCUMENT.
71st vs 2nd order draft evaluation revision - 5
- CONCLUSION The chapter was unacceptable! The
documentation from BREF, the about separation
between combustion and processes and of use of
product approach ignored. - FD accept all the EP suggestion but we dont have
the time to review the chapters - A.4.b.i Residential plants
- The tables contained a very large number of
emission factors quoted as Guidebook (2006) but
with different values. - FD revise the EF, news one are choerent with old
GB but some problems exhist with Turgogas and
Stationary Engines in connection with 1A
81st vs 2nd order draft evaluation revision - 6
- B.1.b Solid fuel transformation
- OK with scientific improv. (some minor
corrections) - B.2.a.vi Geothermal energy extraction
- NEW emissions factors from Italy proposed
- B.2 Industrial Processes
- Generally acceptable without scientific improvem.
- B.3 Product use
- Good, with scientific improv. Some integrations/
corrections needed - B.6 Waste
- Generally acceptable but without scientific
improv.
9Acceptance sheet (1)
(1) The EP agree with new structure. In principle
the Expert Panel comments have been accepted.
However, as we need some more weeks to verify the
completly new EFs inserted in the chapters.
Comments in two or three weeks! (2) We agree
about new structure of tables but need more time
to review EFs combined with 1.a.1
10Acceptance sheet (2)
(3) Observation to 1st order draft don't taken
into consideration Concawe considered the
methodology as obsolete! Replace all with the
sentence "For depots of gasoline in refinery
refer to Tier3" (4) Osservation to 1st order
draft don't taken into consideration.
(5) Osservation to 1st order draft don't taken
into consideration Convert the data from g/kg pig
iron in g/kg sinter using appropriate change
factor to compare with "state of the art"
EFs (6) Osservation to 1st order draft don't
taken into consideration YOU ACCEPTED TO USE
BREF BUT NO CHANGE ARE MADE
11Acceptance sheet (3)
(7) No EFs Consultant say Chapter needs to be
discussed. Where to collect all this information?
All relevant pollutants was moved to NE and the
emission factors are deleted, since they're all
wrong! (8) OLD - There is an emission factor of
200 kg/Mg for Leather Finishing from BREF that
must be taken into account! Comment to Consultant
Comment YES INSERT HERE (statistic given Mg of
leather treated) (9) New EF for VOC is unclear I
ask to discuss in EP (10) The activity 030313
Asphalt Concrete Plants was expired from new GB
and I think must be inserted in a new or existing
charter
12Acceptance sheet (4)
13Acceptance sheet (5)