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Title: IAU Joint Discussion 8


1
Future Giant Telescope (FGT) Projects and Their
Technological Challenges
  • IAU Joint Discussion 8
  • July 17, 2003
  • Larry Stepp

2
Outline
  • Introduction how FGTs will advance beyond
    current-generation telescopes
  • A brief history of FGTs
  • Current concepts for FGTs
  • Technology challenges common to all

3
Current-Generation Telescopes
  • 8- to 10-meter telescopes have achieved better
    performance at lower relative cost by reducing
    the size and mass of telescope enclosure
  • Improvements in polishing and testing techniques
    have enabled faster primary mirrors
  • Active optics has achieved tighter alignment
    tolerances and enabled mirrors to be made
    lightweight
  • Faster primaries, lighter mirrors, alt-azimuth
    mounts FEA have resulted in smaller, stiffer
    telescope structures
  • Smaller, stiffer structures have allowed
    enclosures to be smaller and better ventilated,
    improving local seeing
  • As a result, sub-half-arc-second images are
    becoming commonplace

4
Mayall ? Keck
  • Cost in 1973 10.6 M
  • Adjusted to 1992 33.7 M
  • Projected cost of 10m in 1992 400 M
  • Actual cost of Keck 10m telescope in 1992 110 M

350 tonnes
270 tonnes
5
Future Giant Telescopes
  • FGTs will continue the trends of the current
    generation
  • Faster primary focal ratios
  • Relatively lighter structures
  • And they will advance beyond the Current
    Generation
  • Integral adaptive optics systems
  • Smart structures
  • This will enable FGTs to have
  • An order of magnitude more light-gathering power
  • Better image quality and resolution
  • Diffraction-limited at ? 1 micron
  • However, significant technological challenges
    must be solved to make this possible

6
A Brief History of Future Giant TelescopesThe
Kitt Peak Next Generation Telescope
  • 25-m telescope
  • Segmented f/1 primary
  • Radio-telescope style mount
  • Concept from 1977

7
A Brief History of Future Giant TelescopesThe
National New Technology Telescope (NNTT)
  • 16-m telescope
  • MMT-type
  • Four 8-m f/1.8 primary mirrors
  • Concept from 1986

8
A Brief History of Future Giant TelescopesMore
Concepts Were Advanced in the Early 1990s
  • J. R. P. Angel, Filled Aperture Telescopes in the
    Next Millennium, SPIE 1236, 1990.
  • A. Ardeberg, T. Andersen, B. Lindberg, M.
    Owner-Petersen, T. Korhonen, P. Søndergård,
    Breaking the 8m Barrier - One Approach for a 25m
    Class Optical Telescope, ESO Conf. and Workshop
    Proc. No. 42, 1992.
  • M. Mountain, What is beyond the current
    generation of ground-based 8-m to 10-m class
    telescopes and the VLT-I?, SPIE 2871, 1996.
  • F. N. Bash, T. A. Sebring, F. B. Ray, L. W.
    Ramsey, The extremely large telescope A
    twenty-five meter aperture for the twenty-first
    century, SPIE 2871, 1996.
  • V. V. Sytchev, V. B. Kasperski, S. M. Stroganova,
    V. I. Travush, On conceptual design options of a
    large optical telescope of 10...25 metre class,
    SPIE 2871, 1996.

9
Current Concepts for FGTsLarge Aperture
Telescope (LAT)
  • LAT Consortium
  • Cornell
  • Chicago
  • Illinois
  • Northwestern
  • Site high Atacama desert or Antarctica

Design concept for LAT From a presentation by Ed
Kibblewhite
10
Large Aperture Telescope (LAT)
  • Interesting Features of Concept
  • Adaptive primary mirror
  • Design shown would have 36-m primary with 28-m
    adaptive central zone
  • Science goals emphasize IR and sub-millimeter
    wavelengths
  • Low PWV sites provide logistical challenges

11
Large Aperture Telescope (LAT)
  • Design Parameters
  • Optical design TBD
  • Primary mirror diameter 20-m to 36-m
  • Primary mirror focal ratio TBD ( f/1)
  • Secondary mirror diameter TBD
  • Final focal ratio TBD
  • Field of View 5 - 10
  • Instrument locations Cassegrain
  • Elevation axis location Below primary mirror

12
Large Aperture Telescope (LAT)
  • Key Technical Challenges
  • Cost-effective fabrication of lightweight,
    off-axis aspheric segments
  • Structure needs high damping
  • Momentum compensation for adaptive segments
  • Efficient segment co-phasing systems
  • Laser guidestar beacons
  • Site survey studies of CN2 profile
  • More information is available at
  • http//astrosun.tn.cornell.edu/atacama/atacama.htm
    l

13
Magellan 20
  • Partner organizations include
  • Carnegie
  • Harvard
  • Smithsonian
  • MIT
  • Arizona
  • Michigan
  • Site Las Campanas, Chile

Design Concept for Magellan 20 From a
presentation by Roger Angel
14
Magellan 20
  • Interesting Features of Concept
  • Primary consists of seven 8.4-m mirrors
  • Segmented, adaptive secondary
  • Ground-conjugate adaptive optics
  • Allows later incorporation into a 20-20
    interferometer

15
Magellan 20
  • Design Parameters
  • Optical design Aplanatic Gregorian
  • Primary mirror diameter 26-m (22-m equiv.)
  • Primary mirror focal ratio f/0.7
  • Secondary mirror diameter 2.5-m
  • Final focal ratio f/10
  • Field of View 12 - 20
  • Instrument locations Nasmyth
  • Nasmyth (vertical)
  • Cassegrain
  • Elevation axis location Below primary mirror

16
Magellan 20
  • Key Technical Challenges
  • Fabrication testing of highly-aspheric 8.4-m
    off-axis segments
  • Segmented adaptive secondary mirror
  • Laser guidestar beacons
  • Multi-conjugate adaptive optics
  • More information is available at
  • http//helios.astro.lsa.umich.edu/magellan/intro/s
    cience_case_march16.htm

17
High Dynamic Range Telescope
  • Design developed by
  • Univ. of Hawaii
  • Site Mauna Kea, Hawai'i
  • (replace the CFHT)

Design concept for HDRT From a paper by Kuhn et al
18
High Dynamic Range Telescope
  • Interesting Features of Concept
  • Rapidly switchable narrow-field wide-field modes
  • Segmented secondary mirrors
  • Concept for bi-parting enclosure
  • Adaptive structure

19
High Dynamic Range Telescope
  • Design Parameters
  • Optical design Gregorian (NF) 3-mirror
    anastigmat (WF)
  • Primary mirror diameter 22-m (16-m equiv.)
  • Primary mirror focal ratio f/1
  • Secondary mirror diameter six _at_ 0.14-m (NF)
  • six _at_ 2.3-m (WF)
  • Tertiary mirror diameter 7-m
  • Final focal ratio f/15 (NF) f/1.9 (WF)
  • Field of View 3 (NF) 2 degrees (WF)
  • Instrument locations Central
  • Elevation axis location Above primary mirror

20
High Dynamic Range Telescope
  • Key Technical Challenges
  • Fabrication of testing of 6.5-m off-axis
    aspheric primary mirror segments
  • Fabrication testing of 2.3-m off-axis secondary
    mirror segments
  • Adaptive telescope structure
  • Laser guidestar beacons
  • More information is available at
  • http//www.ifa.hawaii.edu/users/kuhn/hdrt.html

21
Large Petal Telescope
  • Design developed by
  • Obs. Astron. Marseille-Provence
  • Obs. Astron. de Paris
  • Site Mauna Kea, Hawai'i
  • (replace the CFHT)

Design concept for LPT From a paper by Burgarella
et al
22
Large Petal Telescope
  • Interesting Features of Concept
  • Primary consists of six or eight 8-m
    sector-shaped, meniscus segments
  • 3-mirror or 4-mirror optical design
  • Simultaneous use of 6-8 instruments
  • Adaptive telescope structure

23
Large Petal Telescope
  • Design Parameters
  • Optical design 3- or 4-mirror anastigmat
  • Primary mirror diameter 20-m
  • Primary mirror focal ratio f/1
  • Secondary mirror diameter 2.5-m to 5-m
  • Final focal ratio f/5 to f/7.5
  • Field of View 1 degree
  • Instrument locations Cassegrain
  • Elevation axis location Below primary mirror

24
Large Petal Telescope
  • Key Technical Challenges
  • Fabrication testing of 8-m off-axis aspheric
    primary mirror segments
  • Fabrication testing of secondary mirror
  • Adaptive telescope structure
  • Multi-conjugate adaptive optics
  • Laser guidestar beacons
  • More information is available at
  • http//www.astrsp-mrs.fr/denis/ngcfht/ngcfht.html

25
Very Large Optical Telescope (VLOT)
  • Design developed by
  • HIA
  • AMEC
  • Site Mauna Kea, Hawai'i
  • (replace the CFHT)

Design Concept for VLOT AMEC Dynamic Structures
26
Very Large Optical Telescope (VLOT)
  • Interesting Features of Concept
  • Considering concept with 8-m diameter central
    mirror surrounded by sector-shaped smaller
    segments
  • Calotte dome concept

27
Very Large Optical Telescope (VLOT)
  • Design Parameters
  • Optical design Ritchey-Chrétien
  • Primary mirror diameter 20-m
  • Primary mirror focal ratio f/1
  • Secondary mirror diameter 2.5-m
  • Final focal ratio f/15
  • Field of View 20
  • Instrument locations Nasmyth (vertical)
  • Elevation axis location Below primary mirror

28
Very Large Optical Telescope (VLOT)
  • Key Technical Challenges
  • Cost-effective fabrication of lightweight,
    off-axis aspheric segments
  • Fabrication testing of secondary mirror
  • Laser guidestar beacons
  • Multi-conjugate adaptive optics
  • Laser guidestar beacons
  • More information is available at
  • http//www.hia-iha.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/VLOT/index.html.

29
California Extremely Large Telescope (CELT)
  • CELT Partnership
  • Caltech
  • Univ. of California
  • Site TBD (Mauna Kea or northern Chile or Mexico)

Design concept for CELT From the CELT Greenbook
30
California Extremely Large Telescope (CELT)
  • Interesting Features of Concept
  • Scaled up Keck design with 1080 segments arranged
    in 91 rafts
  • Large Nasmyth platforms

31
California Extremely Large Telescope (CELT)
  • Design Parameters
  • Optical design Ritchey-Chrétien
  • Primary mirror diameter 30-m
  • Primary mirror focal ratio f/1.5
  • Secondary mirror diameter 3.96-m
  • Tertiary mirror major axis 4.38-m
  • Final focal ratio f/15
  • Field of View 20
  • Instrument locations Nasmyth
  • Elevation axis location Above primary mirror

32
California Extremely Large Telescope (CELT)
  • Key Technical Challenges
  • Cost-effective fabrication of 1080 off-axis
    aspheric primary mirror segments
  • Fabrication testing of secondary mirror
  • Fast tip-tilt-piston of secondary and tertiary
    mirrors
  • Efficient segment co-phasing systems
  • Laser guidestar beacons
  • Multi-conjugate adaptive optics
  • More information is available at
  • http//celt.ucolick.org/

33
Giant Segmented Mirror Telescope
  • Design by AURA New Initiatives Office
  • NOAO
  • Gemini
  • Site TBD (Mauna Kea or northern Chile or Mexico)

Design Concept for GSMT From animation by Rick
Robles
34
Giant Segmented Mirror Telescope
  • Interesting Features of Concept
  • Prime focus instrument
  • Aperture stop at secondary
  • Adaptive secondary

35
Giant Segmented Mirror Telescope
  • Design Parameters
  • Optical design Cassegrain (or R-C)
  • Primary mirror diameter 32-m (30-m equiv.)
  • Primary mirror focal ratio f/1
  • Secondary mirror diameter 2-m
  • Final focal ratio f/18.75
  • Field of View 20
  • Instrument locations Prime focus
  • Nasmyth
  • Cassegrain (moving fixed)
  • Elevation axis location Below primary mirror

36
Giant Segmented Mirror Telescope
  • Key Technical Challenges
  • Cost-effective fabrication of 618 off-axis
    aspheric primary mirror segments
  • Efficient segment co-phasing systems
  • Adaptive secondary mirror
  • Laser guidestar beacons
  • Multi-conjugate adaptive optics
  • Adaptive telescope structure
  • More information is available at
  • www.aura-nio.noao.edu/

37
Euro50
  • Euro50 partners
  • Lund University
  • Inst. de Astrofisica de Canarias
  • Dept. of Physics, Galway, Ireland
  • Tuorla Observatory
  • Optical Science Lab.
  • National Physical Lab.
  • Site La Palma

Design Concept for Euro50 From Euro50 web site
38
Euro50
  • Interesting Features of Concept
  • Adaptive secondary with composite face sheet
  • F/5 focal reducer for seeing-limited observing

39
Euro50
  • Design Parameters
  • Optical design Gregorian
  • Primary mirror diameter 50-m
  • Primary mirror focal ratio f/0.85
  • Secondary mirror diameter 4-m
  • Final focal ratio f/13 also f/5 f/16 f/20
  • Field of View 4
  • Instrument locations Nasmyth
  • Folded Cassegrain
  • Elevation axis location Below primary mirror

40
Euro50
  • Key Technical Challenges
  • Cost-effective fabrication of 618 off-axis
    aspheric primary mirror segments
  • Efficient segment co-phasing systems
  • Adaptive secondary mirror
  • Laser guidestar beacons
  • Multi-conjugate adaptive optics
  • More information is available at
  • http//www.astro.lu.se/torben/euro50/

41
Overwhelming Large Telescope (OWL)
  • Design by European Southern Observatory
  • Site TBD

Design Concept for OWL From OWL web site
42
Overwhelming Large Telescope (OWL)
  • Interesting Features of Concept
  • Spherical primary mirror
  • Flat segmented secondary mirror
  • Three aspheric mirrors
  • Elevation assembly recessed into ground
  • Mount tied to ground by multiple drive bogies

43
Overwhelming Large Telescope (OWL)
  • Design Parameters
  • Optical design Six-mirror design
  • Primary mirror (M1) diameter 100-m
  • Primary mirror focal ratio f/1.42
  • Secondary mirror (M2) diameter 26-m
  • M3 diameter 8.1-m
  • M4 diameter 8.2-m
  • M5 diameter 3.5-m
  • Final focal ratio f/7.5
  • Field of View 10
  • Instrument locations Central
  • Elevation axis location Above primary mirror

44
Overwhelming Large Telescope (OWL)
  • Key Technical Challenges
  • Fabrication of large numbers of lightweight
    segments
  • Active structure to move corrector
  • Efficient segment co-phasing systems
  • Multi-conjugate adaptive optics
  • 2.4-m adaptive flat mirror
  • 3.5-m adaptive curved mirror
  • More information is available at
  • http//www.eso.org/projects/owl/

45
Required Technology DevelopmentsTelescope
Optics
46
Required Technology DevelopmentsTelescope
Optics
47
Required Technology DevelopmentsAdaptive Optics
48
Required Technology DevelopmentsAdaptive Optics
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Required Technology DevelopmentsAdaptive Optics
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Required Technology DevelopmentsAdaptive Optics
51
Required Technology DevelopmentsInstruments
  • Affordable large near-IR detectors
  • Affordable large mid-IR detectors
  • Advanced image slicers for IFUs
  • Fiber positioners
  • MOEMS slit masks for multi-object spectroscopy
  • Large-format volume-phase holographic gratings
  • Large-format immersed silicon gratings
  • Large lenses filters

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Call For International Cooperation
  • Our needs are so similar and our resources are
    limited, close cooperation is essential
  • Joint ventures where sensible
  • Coordination to ensure studies are complementary
  • Open sharing of information as much as possible
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