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1Packing the Friendly Skies
Why Transporting Firearms May
Be The BestWay To Safeguard Your Tech When You
Fly
Deviant Ollam
2you may have seen me before
3i like guns
4 some people dont
5i speak at lots of cons
6many of which i cant drive to
7my bags used to get opened a lot
8 and not always by the TSA
9nowadays i lock all my gear
10notice these are not TSA locks
11but proper heavy-duty padlocks
12how is this allowed
?
13simple, really
14now, i fly with firearms all the time
15- flying with firearms
- its easier than you think
- its relatively hassle-free
- it results in major security
16- facts and the law
- federal standards (mostly uniform,
specifics can vary by airline but no one can
abridge your rights) - checked bag only, unloaded (do i really
have to tell you that?) - non-TSA lock (no one else gets the key or
combo) - declared upon check-in
17- specifics about packing
- hard case, size can vary (ill assume
youll use larger luggage to leverage the law to
your advantage) - ammo policies can vary a lot by airline
(how its packed, how much you can carry, same
luggage or separately) - bags may not be opened once secured (unless
you are present) - no outside indicator labels of any kind (27
CFR 478.31 - Delivery by Common or Contract
Carrier, 18 USC Section 922e)
18how the procedure works and what to expect
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26some extra pointers that can make the whole
process easier, better, faster, stronger
27- extra pointers
- dont be a dumbass when you declare
- keep cases locked as much as possible
(better to be asked five times to open them than
to send them away unsecured) - getting to secondary screening area
- no outside indicator labels of any kind
(thats US federal law, other nations have own
standards)
Federal law states No common or contract
carrier shall require or cause any label, tag, or
other written notice to be placed on the outside
of any package, luggage, or other container that
such package, luggage, or other container
contains a firearm. 18 USC Section 922(e)
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38- more international notes
- clearing customs
- other people youll encounter
- transfer check-in
- border zone firearm rules
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42omgz! j00 has teh fireamrz whaa?!!? oh noes!!1!
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45ammo yes. flammables no.
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51a few other good tips
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57for all your mail needs
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59my advice . . .
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63concerns about weight
64South Bend fishscale tape measureunder 10
65blades, blades, blades
66Gerber Artifact minitoolremovable 11
bladeunder 10
67- if theres a problem
- know the rules, show the rules (legal
citation sheet on deviating.net)
68- if theres a problem
- know the rules, show the rules (legal
citation sheet on deviating.net) - stay polite, stand your ground
- be direct, you are doing nothing wrong
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70peace of mind over lost bags
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76still, nothing as satisfying as
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78- more tips
- insurance coverage can vary
- possible to play with weight a bit
- inside other luggage? sure, but why?
- not just functional firearms
79- what counts as a firearm?
- proper guns
- flare guns
- starter / blank pistols
- airsoft pieces
- replica weapons
- gun parts hardware?
the law specifies firearms which, by
definition, expel a projectile by means of a
combustible propellant but essentially, they
want to avoid screeners or automated x-ray
equipment seeing anything that looks like a
firearm when they werent expecting to encounter
it.http//deviating.net/firearms/packing/flare
80how do the various carriers rate? A
B C D
(maybe)
http//deviating.net/firearms/packing/report.html
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85please tell me how it goes for you!
86two more pearls of wisdom about
skipping ahead in line
87when checking-in grab a skycap
88when checking-in grab a skycap
89when flying standby does this move you up?
90a frequently asked question so, mister lock
guy what luggage locks gun locks should we
use ?
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94what are the best padlocks out there?
Abloy 362 Grade 6 200
Abloy 976 Puck 90
Abloy 321 Executive 25
http//securitysnobs.com
95another frequently asked question so what do
you use for luggage when you travel ?
9681 mm mortar round case
97heavy hinge hasp
98bolts with J-B Weld or Loctite
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102- my personal setup
- 81 mm mortar round case 15 http//store.colema
ns.com/cart/ammo-can-81-mm-p-225.html - heavy hinged hasp 10 hardware stores anywhere
- bolts, J-B Weld / Loctite 5 hardware stores
anywhere
103my personal setup
ironclad luggage 30
104Packing the Friendly Skies Deviant Ollam
105thank you very much!
106any questions?
107deviating.net/firearms deviant_at_deviating.net
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