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  • Edgemont South Stake Relief Society
  • Women Preparing for the Future
  • Eight Myths of Family Finance
  • February 24, 2009
  • Bryan Sudweeks
  • From the BYU MSM web site
  • Personal Finance Another Perspective
  • at http//personalfinance.byu.net

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Abstract
  • Some women have felt financial management was
    the husbands job and have not been equal partners
    in this responsibility. That attitude is
    incorrect and is an abdication of responsibility.
    Given women live longer, invest more
    conservatively, and have less in retirement from
    working in the home, it is even more critical
    that women take an active role and become equal
    partners in the financial management decisions in
    their families. This presentation will discuss
    that and other myths.

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Objectives
  • A. Understand the Eight Myths of Family Finance

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A. Understand the Eight Myths of Family Finance
  • Myth 1 Everything I Have is Mine
  • Principles of family finance
  • Myth 2 Money Matters are Temporal Matters
  • Money matters are spiritual matters
  • Myth 3 Family Finances are a Mans
    Responsibility
  • Family finances are an equal and shared
    responsibility

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Eight Myths (continued)
  • Myth 4 Credit Card and Consumer Debt is OK
  • Debt is dumb
  • Myth 5 I Pay my Tithing, I Have Nothing to
    Worry About Financially
  • There are lots of other things to be concerned
    about as well
  • Myth 6 Budgets are for College Students
  • Every family should have a budget

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Eight Myths (continued)
  • Myth 7 Parents are Responsible for their Adult
    Childrens Finances for the Rest of their Lives
  • Adult children are responsible for their own
    finances
  • Myth 8 There are no Good Sources of Information
  • Introduction to the BYU MSM website

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Myth 1 Everything I have is Mine
  • C.S. Lewis, in his Screwtape Letters, had the
    devil Screwtape say
  • The sense of ownership in general is always to be
    encouraged. The humans are always putting up
    claims to ownership which sound equally funny in
    Heaven and in Hell and we must keep them doing
    so. . . We teach this sense of ownership not only
    by pride but by confusion. We teach them not to
    notice the differences. . .that run from my
    boot through my dog,. . .to my God.
    (Screwtape Letters, HarperCollins, San Francisco,
    2000, pp. 113-114)
  • The reality is different!

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Reality Principles of Family Finance
  • Principle 1 Ownership
  • 1. Ownership Everything we have is the Lords
  • The Psalmist wrote
  • The earth is the Lords, and the fullness
    thereof the world, and they that dwell therein.
    (Psalms 241)
  • The Lord is the creator of the earth (Mosiah
    221), the supplier of our breath (2 Nephi 926),
    the giver of our knowledge (Moses 732) and our
    life (Mosiah 222), and all we have and are
    (Mosiah 221).
  • Nothing we have is our ownits all Gods

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Ownership (continued)
  • As such, there should be no feeling of pride for
    the things we have, are, or will become
  • These things do not belong to us, but are on loan
    from a loving God
  • Our blessings should encourage greater obedience
    to Gods commandments as we realize they are
    gifts from a loving Father in Heaven
    (Ecclesiastes 519) and as we try to thank Him
    for the things He has blessed us with

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Principle 2 Stewardship
  • 2. Stewardship We are stewards over all that the
    Lord has, is giving, or will share with us
  • The Lord through the Prophet Joseph Smith stated
  • It is expedient that I, the Lord, should make
    every man accountable, as a steward over earthly
    blessings, which I have made and prepared for my
    creatures. (DC 10413)
  • The Lord through the prophet Brigham Young said
  • Thou shalt be diligent in preserving what thou
    hast, that thou mayest be a wise steward for it
    is the free gift of the Lord thy God, and thou
    art his steward. (DC 13627)

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Stewardship (continued)
  • We are stewards, not owners, over the things we
    possess
  • As wise stewards, it is our responsibility to
    learn everything we can about our stewardship
  • The purpose of this presentation is to help you
    understand and teach others to manage that
    stewardship better, that we all might be
    approved in all things, and be accounted as wise
    stewards. (DC 7222)

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Principle 3 Agency
  • 3. Agency The gift of choice is mans most
    precious inheritance
  • President Marion G. Romney said
  • Agency means the freedom and power to choose and
    act. Next to life itself, it is mans most
    precious inheritance. (Ensign, May 1976, p. 120.)
  • President David O. McKay
  • Next to the bestowal of life itself, the right
    to direct that life is Gods greatest gift to
    man. Freedom of choice is more to be treasured
    than any possession earth can give (italics
    added, in Conference Report, Apr. 1950, p. 32
    italics added).

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Agency (continued)
  • Agency is one of the greatest gifts of God.
  • Instead of using this gift wrongly, we should do
    all in our power to make wise choices
  • And then we should thank a loving Father and Son
    for this wonderful right to chooseand then use
    that agency wisely!

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Principle 4 Accountability
  • 4. Accountability We are accountable for every
    choice we make
  • The Lord through the prophet Joseph stated
  • For it is required of the Lord, at the hand of
    every steward, to render an account of his
    stewardship, both in time and in eternity. (DC
    723)
  • Elder Todd Christofferson recently stated
  • We control the disposition of our means and
    resources, but we account to God for this
    stewardship over earthly things. (D. Todd
    Christofferson, Come to Zion, Ensign, November
    2008, p. )

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Accountability (continued)
  • While the blessing of agency is an unconditional
    gift from God, how we use that gift shows how
    much we love Him and His Son
  • We will all be held accountable for our use of
    our agency
  • We should do all in our power to use our choices
    wisely

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What is Really Ours?
  • Elder Neal A. Maxwell stated
  • The submission of ones will is really the only
    uniquely personal thing we have to place on Gods
    altar. The many other things we give, brothers
    and sisters, are actually the things He has
    already given or loaned to us. However, when you
    and I finally submit ourselves, by letting our
    individual wills be swallowed up in Gods will,
    then we are really giving something to Him! It is
    the only possession which is truly ours to give!
    (italics added, Swallowed Up in the Will of the
    Father, Ensign, Nov. 1995, 22.)

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Myth 2 Money Matters are Temporal Matters
  • Many think money matters are only temporal
    matters
  • They feel that how they manage their money has
    nothing to do with their spirituality
  • The reality is different!

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Reality Money Matters are Spiritual Matters
  • Money matters are spiritual matters because
  • 1. All things are spiritual
  • In DC 2934 the Lord says, All things unto me
    are spiritual, and not at any time have I given
    unto you a law which was temporal.
  • The Apostle Paul taught that the love of money is
    evil, not money itself. (1 Timothy 610)
  • The commandments to live within our means, live
    on a budget, get out of debt, build a reserve,
    etc., are all not temporal but spiritual
    commandments

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Money Matters (continued)
  • 2. Money is a medium of exchange
  • Elder Sterling W. Sill said
  • We can build temples with money, we can send out
    missionaries with money, we can erect educational
    institutions, operate hospitals, and pay our
    tithing with money. In many ways we can build
    up the kingdom of God with money. (A Fortune to
    Share, Ensign, Jan. 1974, 60.)
  • The same currency that we go into debt with
    builds our temples

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Money Matters (continued)
  • 3. Money is a tool to teach gospel principles
  • Money is a tool to teach us many things,
    including the gospel principles of sacrifice,
    discipline, law of the harvest, and work.
  • Money teaches and reinforces both the spiritual
    and physical creation, as we develop goals and
    budgets and work toward them
  • Money teaches the Law of the Harvest, as we
    invest for retirement and other goals
  • Learning to manage money wisely can increase our
    freedom, teach us eternal gospel principles, and
    bring peace and happiness into our lives

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Money Matters (continued)
  • 4. There is no true freedom without financial
    freedom
  • President Ezra Taft Benson said
  • The Lord desires his Saints to be free and
    independent in the critical days ahead. But no
    man is truly free who is in financial bondage.
    (Prepare Ye, Ensign, Jan. 1974, p. 69).
  • We must work to get and stay out of debt to be
    truly free.
  • Debt is one of Satans greatest tools to limit
    our freedom

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Money Matters (continued)
  • 5. The Lord wants and will help us to be wiser
    financial stewards
  • The Lord said
  • Behold it is my will that you shall pay all your
    debts. And it is my will that you shall humble
    yourselves before me, and obtain this blessing by
    your diligence and humility and the prayer of
    faith. And inasmuch as you are diligent and
    humble, and exercise the prayer of faith, behold,
    I will soften the hearts of those to whom you are
    in debt, until I shall send means unto you for
    your deliverance. (italics added, DC 104 78-79)
  • But we must do it in His way

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Myth 3 Money Matters are the Mans
Responsibility
  • Many think money matters are a priesthood
    responsibility and not a womens responsibility
  • They think if women become knowledgeable about
    financial matters, wont their spouses be upset
  • If spouses make the moneydont they get to
    decide where it goes?
  • The reality is different!
  • Women are equal partners, live longer than men,
    are more conservative in their investments, and
    have less saved for retirement (due to working in
    the home). They should be more responsible!

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Reality Both are Equally Responsible
  • The Proclamation on the Family states
  • By divine design, fathers are to preside over
    their families in love and righteousness and are
    responsible to provide the necessities of life
    and protection for their families. Mothers are
    primarily responsible for the nurture of their
    children. In these sacred responsibilities,
    fathers and mothers are obligated to help one
    another as equal partners. (Proclamation on the
    Family, 1995)
  • Spouses are to be equal partners in financial
    matters (just like they are equal partners in
    spiritual matters)

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Equally Responsible (continued)
  • Control of money by one spouse as a source of
    power, or failure by a partner to be a part of
    financial management are both incorrect
    attitudes.
  • Management of family finances should be mutual
    between husband and wife in an attitude of
    openness and trust. Control of the money by one
    spouse as a source of power and authority causes
    inequality in the marriage and is inappropriate.
    Conversely, if a marriage partner voluntarily
    removes himself or herself entirely from family
    financial management, that is an abdication of
    necessary responsibility. (Marvin J. Ashton,
    Guide to Family Finance, Liahona, Apr. 2000, 42)

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Myth 4 Credit Card and Consumer Debt is OK
  • It is OK for me to go into debt for things,
    especially things I really want
  • It helps build my credit score (I think)
  • I know and I am planning to pay them
    offeventually well, at least I hope to be able
    to pay them off eventually well, maybe someday I
    will pay them offI think?
  • The reality is different!

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Reality Debt is Dumb
  • President James E. Faust stated
  • Over the years the wise counsel of our leaders
    has been to avoid debt except for the purchase of
    a home or to pay for an education. I have not
    heard any of the prophets change this counsel.
    (Doing the Best Things in the Worst Times,
    Ensign, Aug. 1984, 41)
  • Sadly, consumer and credit card debt are not
    included in that short list of acceptable debt
  • Credit cards are fine if we pay them off each
    monthwe are not incurring debt charges
  • But do we really pay them off each month?

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Debt is Dumb (continued)
  • President Ezra Taft Bensons said
  • Pride is a sin that can readily be seen in others
    but is rarely admitted in ourselves. . . It is
    manifest in so many ways, such as . . . living
    beyond our means. (italics added, Ezra Taft
    Benson, The Faces of Pride, New Era, Oct. 2003,
    p. 40)
  • Perhaps the debt problem is more a problem of
    pride than it is of money?
  • Dont think of it as I am going into debt
  • Think of it as Im spending my retirement and my
    childrens mission and education money

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Myth 5 If I Pay my Tithing, I Have Nothing to
Worry About Financially
  • Didnt the prophet Malachi say
  • Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, . .
    . and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of
    hosts, if I will not open you the windows of
    heaven. (Malachi 310, 3 Nephi 2410)
  • Doesnt it say that if I pay my tithing, the
    windows of heaven will open and I will get all
    the financial blessings that I need, regardless
    of any learning, thought, application, hard work
    or effort on my part?
  • The reality is different!

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Reality Dangers of not Being Financially Wise
  • The prophet Malachi promised that God will open
    the windows of heaven
  • However, there is no promise that the windows of
    heaven will be financial blessings or that paying
    tithing will eliminate all our financial problems
  • We still are stewards over what we have and are,
    and must learn to live in this increasingly
    challenging and technical financial world
  • There are still more commandments which relate to
    finances in addition to just paying your tithing,
    i.e., living with your means, building a reserve,
    preparing for retirement, missions and education,
    etc.

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Dangers (continued)
  • Interesting statistics
  • Average per household debt in the U.S. is 14,500
    excluding mortgage debt in 2007
  • Credit card users pay 112 more than cash users
  • 40 of American families spend more than they
    earn
  • The typical family pays 1,200 per year in
    interest
  • About 60 of all active credit card accounts are
    not paid off monthly
  • Source http//www.bankrate.com/brm/news/debt/debt
    guide2004/debt-trivia1.asp
  • Home equity in the U.S. fell to below 50 for the
    first time since the 1930s
  • Most couples indicate that finances are a major
    stress on their marriages

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Myth 6 Budgets are for College Students
  • Living on budgets is only for college students
    and those that need to be careful with their
    money, not more mature people like myself
  • We do not need to have a budget because we know
    where our money goes (it goes to pay the billsI
    think)
  • The reality is different!

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Reality Every Family Should have a Budget
  • President Spencer W. Kimball counseled
  • Every family should have a budget. Why, we would
    not think of going one day without a budget in
    this Church or our businesses. We have to know
    approximately what we may receive, and we
    certainly must know what we are going to spend.
    And one of the successes of the Church would have
    to be that the Brethren watch these things very
    carefully, and we do not spend that which we do
    not have. (Conference Report, April 1975, pp.
    166-167.)
  • If the brethren watch these things very
    carefully, shouldnt we?

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Every Family Should Have a Budget (continued)
  • What is a Budget?
  • It is the single most important tool in helping
    you attain your personal goals.
  • It is the process of planning your spending
  • Its making sure your resources are used for the
    things that matter mostyour personal goals
  • Budgeting is a star to set your sights by, not a
    stick to beat yourself with

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Budgeting The Old Way
Available for Savings
Income
Expenses
Tithing
Personal Goals
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Budgeting The Better Way
Other Savings
Income
Expenses
Pay the Lord
Pay Yourself
Personal Goals
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Every Family Should Have a Budget (continued)
  • Elder L. Tom Perry taught this when he said
  • After paying your tithing of 10 percent to the
    Lord, you pay yourself a predetermined amount
    directly into savings. That leaves you a balance
    of your income to budget for taxes, food,
    clothing, shelter, transportation, etc. It is
    amazing to me that so many people work all of
    their lives for the grocer, the landlord, the
    power company, the automobile salesman, and the
    bank, and yet think so little of their own
    efforts that they pay themselves nothing. (L. Tom
    Perry, Becoming Self-Reliant, Ensign, Nov.
    1991, 64.)

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Every Family Should Have a Budget (continued)
  • Elder Marvin J. Ashton stated
  • Some claim living within a budget takes the fun
    out of life and is too restrictive. But those who
    avoid the inconvenience of a budget must suffer
    the pains of living outside of it. The Church
    operates within a budget. Successful business
    functions within a budget. Families free of
    crushing debt have a budget. Budget guidelines
    encourage better performance and management.
    (italics added, Marvin J. Ashton, Its No Fun
    Being Poor, Ensign, Sept. 1982, 72.)

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Myth 7 Parents are Responsible to Support their
Adult Children Financially
  • Parents must support their children financially,
    regardless of the age of their children
  • They must continue giving food, clothing, cars,
    insurance, etc. regardless of the childrens age,
    actions, and unwillingness to learn financial
    responsibility
  • They must take money that they scrimped and saved
    and give to their children so their children
    wont have to scrimp and save
  • The reality is different!

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Reality Adult Children are Responsible
  • After children become adults, they are
    responsible for their own financial well-being
  • Parents are not responsible for their adult
    childrens financesthe adult children are.
    Likewise children are not responsible for their
    parents finances
  • Parents can help if they think it is in the
    childs best interest, but they are not
    responsible
  • Parents who continually support their children
    financially, will find their children will always
    need support. It will be difficult for the adult
    children to learn financial responsibility

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Myth 8 There are No Good Sources of Personal
Finance Information
  • There is a lack of good sources of information on
    personal finance
  • This is especially true for information from a
    correct perspective
  • The reality is different!

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Reality Introduction to the MSM Website
  • There are many sources of good information
  • It just takes time to sort them out
  • Let me add another source to your list
  • The BYU Marriott School of Managements Personal
    Finance website at
  • http//personalfinance.byu.net

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Home Page
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Individual Lessons
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Courses of Study
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8 Basic Lessons (with lessons, readings,
spreadsheets, handouts, FHE lessons, etc.)
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Personal Finance Manuals
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Tools and Resources
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Summary
  • Myth 1 Everything I have is mine
  • Reality Principles of Family Finance
  • Ownership Everything is the Lords
  • Stewardship We are stewards over everything
    that we have
  • Agency This is one of Gods greatest gifts
  • Accountability We will be held accountable for
    how we use the things we have been blessed with,
    including our financial resources

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Conclusions (continued)
  • Myth 2 Money matters are temporal matters
  • Reality Money matters are spiritual matters
  • 1. All things are spiritual
  • 2. Money is a medium of exchange
  • 3. Money is a tool to teach us gospel principles
  • 4. There is no freedom without financial freedom
  • 5. The Lord wants, and will help us, get out of
    debt and become wiser financial stewards

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Conclusions (continued)
  • Myth 3 Finances are a mans responsibility
  • Reality Finances are a shared responsibility
  • Both spouses are equally responsible for a
    familys finances
  • In fact, because women live longer, invest more
    conservatively, have less at retirement, they
    likely should be MORE involved, responsible and
    knowledgeable

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Conclusions (continued)
  • Myth 4 Credit card and consumer debt is OK
  • Reality Debt is Dumb
  • We have been counseled for many years to avoid
    debt except for a home and education
  • That does not include credit card and consumer
    debt
  • We should earn interestnot pay it

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Conclusions (continued)
  • Myth 5 If I pay my tithing, I have nothing to
    worry about financially
  • Reality There are dangers to not being
    financially wise
  • In addition to tithing, there are other important
    commandments we must obey
  • Live within your means
  • Live on a budget
  • Stay out of debt
  • Build a reserve
  • Save for missions, education and retirement

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Conclusions (continued)
  • Myth 6 Only college students need to have a
    budget
  • Reality Every family should have a budget
  • If it is one of the reasons for the success of
    the church, it should also be a reason for the
    financial success of our families

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Conclusions (continued)
  • Myth 7 Parents are responsible for their Adult
    Childrens Finances
  • Reality Adult children are responsible for their
    own finances
  • Parents who are continually supporting their
    children financially will find their children
    will never learn financial responsibility

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Conclusions (continued)
  • Myth 8 There are no good sources of personal
    finance information
  • Reality There are many good sources available
  • One new source is the BYU MSM Personal Finance
    website at
  • http//personalfinance.byu.edu

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Thank You
  • I leave you with my excitement, my testimony of
    the gospel, and one of my favorite scriptures,
    DC 4562
  • For verily I say unto you, that great things
    await you.
  • Reality They truly do!

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Thank You
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Key Principles of Family Finance
  • Its not what you earn, but what you save, that
    helps you acquire wealth. Its not what you save,
    but what you become, that makes you more like
    your Savior Jesus Christ
  • Nothing you have is your ownit is all Gods.
    Live by the principles of ownership, stewardship,
    agency, and accountability and you will feel the
    Lords guidance in your life
  • Your priorities are critical, so keep them in
    order. Pay the Lord first, yourself second, and
    then pay your other bills.

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Key Principles (continued)
  • 4. Money cannot buy you happiness, but it can buy
    you security for you and your family. Be secure
    in you family, then find happiness in them and
    the gospel.
  • 5. You make a living by what you earn, but a life
    by what you give. Learn to give more, for giving
    is what life is all about
  • 6. Use marginal and opportunity costs and time
    value of money calculations when making financial
    decisions, then overlay those decisions with the
    gospel of Jesus Christ. Both parts are critical
    to the correct decision making process

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Key Principles (continued)
  • 7. Plan your financial future early then live
    your plan. Prayerfully establish goals and plans
    to achieve them, and then work on achieving them
    with Gods help
  • 8. Develop expertise in your financial
    stewardship then heed your own advice. Remember
    you are responsible for your spiritual and
    financial success
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