Title: Central Coast Section
1Central Coast Section
April 20, 2009
- Seminar on
- 2009-10
- Start Dates
- Maximum Number of Contests
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- Other Pertinent Subjects
2OVERVIEW
- Start Dates Maximum Number of Contests were
designed to help create a level of consistency
across the entire section - Some leagues have had start dates and some have
not - Now the CCS will have the task to enforce and
interpret both Start Dates Maximum Number of
Contests for all leagues
3START DATES
- Review the specific dates on the chart Page 1
- Fall Practice No earlier than the 6th Friday
in the NFHS Calendar - Scrimmages No earlier than 1 week before 1st
allowable game - Games No earlier than the Thursday in the 9th
week in the NFHS Calendar - Winter Practice No earlier than the 1st Monday
in November - Scrimmages No earlier than 1 week before 1st
allowable game - Games No earlier than the Monday after
Thanksgiving - Spring Practice No earlier than the 1st Monday
in February - Scrimmages No earlier than 1 week before 1st
allowable game - Games No earlier than the 4th Monday in
February -
4Concerns Raised
- Why are the seasons different lengths? Why does
the fall Season have 2 weeks of practice prior to
the first game and the winter season has 3 weeks? - Fall season is only 13 weeks long
- Winter season is 16 weeks long.
- Spring Season is 15 weeks long
- Rationale The winter and spring seasons have
holiday breaks. Several sports are locked in by
state/regional championships. - Note Soccer season was extended to match the
basketball season-beginning in the 2009-10 school
year.
5LAST REGULAR SEASON EVENT
- -See chart on page 2-
- This sets the last date a team or individual may
have a regular season contest. - League commissioners may grant permission for
non-varsity teams to do make up games after the
CCS last regularly scheduled date. - Teams in CCS Playoff competition may scrimmage
other CCS Playoffs teams in preparation for their
playoff contest. - A team can have a non-league contest after their
last league contest as long as it is before the
last season date.
6PRACTICE
- - Review Page 2 3 -
- What is a practice / What isnt a practice
- Interscholastic practice during the school year
is defined as - any school team or individual activity organized
by the coach that is intended to maintain or
improve a student-athletes skill proficiency in
a sport AND/OR - any school team or individual activity that
includes skill drills, game situation drills,
inter-squad scrimmages or games, chalk talks,
film review, meetings outside of school time
(excluding parent meetings). AND/OR - any other coach-directed or supervised school
team or individual activity or instruction for a
specific sport AND/OR - any other team or individual instruction for a
specific sport organized or supervised by any
team member, or anyone else associated with the
team or the school AND/OR tryouts.
7PRACTICE (continued)
- Practice cannot be longer than 3 hours in length.
- There shall be a minimum of 2 hrs. between any
two practice session in a single day. - No sport shall have more than 54 hrs. of practice
between the start date for practice and first
contest.
8FOOTBALL
- Spring Football
- allowed for no more than 10 days and no more than
20 hours-total, no earlier than May 1st. - spring football cannot be used for tryouts and
cannot be implicitly or explicitly mandated by
coach or anyone associated in the program. - CIF 1203 B. During the Summer (existing rule)
- During the summer period, CIF rules and
regulations do not apply to any activities except
as follows - (1) No physical conditioning or practice sessions
for football prior to the opening of authorized
practice may be conducted by a high school,
unless specifically authorized by the appropriate
Section - The CCS has implicitly given permission for
football to conduct physical conditioning or
practice sessions.
9OPEN GYMS etc.
- What is the intent?
- Open to publicthis means your entire school or
district community (public) if your school or
district restricts general public participation
and only allows students enrolled in your school
or district to participate in any activity on
your site. - Supervised by school personnel for safety reasons
- Cannot be mandatory
- No written or unwritten instructions or
instruction
10SUNDAY PRACTICES
- 310. SUNDAY RESTRICTIONS
- A. In order to provide at least one day of
respite from involvement in interscholastic
athletics each week, no interscholastic games or
practices of any kind are to be held on Sunday. - (Approved May 2000 Federated Council)
- Exception Those schools founded upon religious
tenets that observe the Sabbath from Friday
sundown until Saturday sundown may practice or
play on Sundays. Said schools must register each
year by August 1 for the following year with
their Section office and indicate either Friday
or Saturday as their alternate day of respite. - NOTE Declaration of Alternate Day of Respite
form is available through your local CIF Section
Office. (Approved May 2003 Federated Council) - B. Violation of Bylaw 310 will result in the
following sanctions - (1) Practice for every practice conducted on a
declared day of respite the violating school
will be prohibited from conducting twice as many
regularly scheduled practices (2 for 1) - (2) Game a game played on a declared day of
respite will result in forfeiture of the game. - C. In addition to the above sanctions, the
section depending on the violation may impose
the following additional sanctions - (1) The final season record will be reduced by
at least one win at the conclusion of the
season - (2) The school will be placed on probation
- (3) The team/individual will be ineligible to
advance to or in section, regional or state
championships - (4) Reduction of maximum number of contests
allowed for the following year in that sport - (5) Repeated violation may result in suspension
of membership in the CIF. - (Approved May 2004 Federated Council)
11SUNDAY PRACTICES
- It is clear from the letter and spirit of this
rule, that it is meant to provide a safeguard
against coaches scheduling, requiring,
organizing, coordinating encouraging or having
anything at all to do with activities involving
their high school players on Sunday. - Everyone deserves one day a week off.
12SUNDAY PRACTICES
- Any High School Coach should not be at any
activity involved in the sport in which they are
coaching with any of their high school player(s)
on Sunday during the season of sport. - A High School Coach should not even be involved
in any activity involved in the sport in which
they are coaching for other high school players
who are in season.
13SUNDAY PRACTICES
- A coach and a player or players together anywhere
on a Sunday during the season that remotely has
ANYTHING whatsoever to do with the sport in which
you they are involved is a violation. - Leave the kids alone on Sunday!
14Outside Organizations
- INTENT (Spirit of the Rule)
- CIF By Law 514.
- ONE SEASON OF SPORT
- Each student shall be limited to one season of a
particular sport for each school year.
15Outside Organizations
- What does that Mean?
- A school/coach/ assistant coach cannot
implicitly or explicitly mandate students to
participate and/or have a school program under
the guise of another organization to have another
season of sport. - Explicitly Clearly plainly without disguise
or reservation of meaning. Not by reference or
implication. - Implicitly Capable of being understood from
something else, though unexpressed.
16Outside Organizations
- This is NOT intended to
- Prevent private lessons or club sports activity
- nor
- Designed to isolate the coach from the athletes
in the off-season. - However
- High School Coaches involved in such outside
programs shall not implicitly or explicitly
require any student-athletes on their high school
team to participate in such.
17Outside Organizations
- If teams or individuals competing or practicing
with an outside organization using school names,
uniforms, colors, insignias, mascots, school
equipment, or anything that identifies them with
a particular CCS high school, it shall be
considered a school team.
18CIF/CCSSUMMER DARK Period
- CCS Bylaws, Article VSection 5. SUMMER ACTIVITY
(CIF 1203) - B. DURING THE SUMMER (defined for purposes of
this bylaw by CCS as beginning the second
Saturday in June each year) - During the summer period California
Interscholastic Federation rules and regulations
do not apply to any activities except as
follows - 1.No physical conditioning or practice sessions
for football prior to the opening of authorized
practice may be conducted by a high school,
unless specifically authorized by the appropriate
CIF Section. .(The CCS has allowed physical
conditioning and/or practice sessions during the
summer) - 2. Participation in any other sports during the
summer is governed by the nationally recognized
authority for each sport, if such authority exists
19- Maximum Number of Contests
20Maximum Number of Contests- Review page 5 -
- In all sports every contest is counted contest
for contest except where noted in tournament
competition. - Specific Sports that are impacted (tournaments)
Basketball, Softball, Soccer,Tennis - Tournament Directors should design their
tournaments so that all teams will receive the
same number of contests. - Allows for the coach to count from the end of the
season and not violate the maximum number of
contests.
21Maximum Number of ContestsPenalties
- - Review Page 6 -
- Schools who find themselves in jeopardy of
exceeding their maximum of contests may NOT
cancel any league contests in order the be in
compliance with this rule. - See Section G Page 6 for penalties
22Scrimmages/Jamborees/Alumni/Faculty Games
- Scrimmages - Review Page 3
- Maximum of 2 scrimmages
- Do not count in teams maximum of contests
- Post season scrimmages only between CCS Playoff
teams and before 1st round. - Jamborees - Review Page 4
- Must be league sanctioned, must be played prior
to first league contest. - Do not count in teams maximum of contests
- Limited to 1 jamboree per year
23Scrimmages/Jamborees/Alumni/Faculty
Games(Continued)
- Alumni Faculty Games - Review page 4
- Do not count in teams maximum of contests
- Limited to 1 alumni and 1 faculty game per year
- Limited to Varsity Competition only
- Game must occur between 1st scrimmage date and
CCS last regular season contest date - Review other parameters - Section 7 page 7
24- Other Pertinent (but related) Subjects
- All Star games (CIF Article 900)
- Only seniors who have completed their season of
sport -
- Any practice/tryout/game cannot be conducted
until the conclusion of the last section or state
contest in that sport - Undergraduates are prohibited from participating
in any all-star event except during the summer
black-out period.
25 Other Pertinent (but related) Subjects
- Tournament Sanctioning
- Event involving four or more teams
- Applications for sanctioning due dates
- Fall sports Apr 10 (late date w/fee May 10)
- Winter sports Sept 10 (late date w/fee Oct 10)
- Spring sports Dec 1 (late date w/fee, Jan 1)
- Tournaments inviting non-CIF teams (out of state)
may require NFHS sanctioning as well - Minimum penalty for playing in a non-sanctioned
event forfeit all contests played in the
tournament
26Other Pertinent (but related) Subjects
- Games vs. non-CIF opponents
- Non-CIF opponents (out-of-state)
- Any competition with a non-CIF member team must
be approved by the League Commissioner and the
CCS Commissioner using CCS Form 502 - International opponents
- Any competition with an international team must
be approved by the League Commissioner and the
CCS Commissioner using CCS Form 502 and be
sanctioned by the CIF state office (fee required)
27SOME QUESTIONS TO CONDSIDER
28Q As continued
- QUESTION 1 Can a coach open the batting cage
and have instruction for a batter asking for help
in the off season? - Answer Private instruction and coaches
volunteering their time to help kids is a very
positive thing. An activity like this should not
be used to get around the practice rule or be
used to augment practice for an individual player
before or after practice starting and ending
dates. However, in the off season should a
player ask for some assistance from their high
school coach and either with payment for services
or not to the coach, we want our high school
coaches helping kids. High School coaches have
a great heart for helping kids with academics,
sports, life in general. It is not the intention
of practice starting dates to prohibit our
coaches from continuing to help kids when they
need it.
29Q As continued
- QUESTION 2 A varsity softball coach, who also
makes a living giving pitching and hitting
lessons offers her varsity softball team the
opportunity to come and work out in her indoor
facility for free. During these workouts the
varsity coaching staff is there-evaluating talent
and offering constructive criticism. - ANSWER Private enterprises involving high
school coaches away from school time and with no
affiliation with the school is a rather common
phenomenon (i.e. tennis pros, golf pros, club
swimming coaches etc). The CCS is not authorized
nor does it intend to restrict such private
enterprises because that individual also coaches
a high school team at some point during the
school year. However, using your private
enterprise to benefit your school team off-season
is a violation of the spirit, if not the letter
of this rule. Offering this special opportunity
to the softball team players only from the
coachs school off season would surely be
considered a violation of this rule. If this
occurred during the season (NOT on Sunday) it
would be considered a practice and would be
considered the same during the off season and
would, therefore, be a violation of this rule.
30Q AND AS continued
- QUESTION 3 A varsity baseball coach holds a
team player meeting and tells the perspective
players that starting after Thanksgiving he will
be holding voluntary conditioning three days a
week. His conditioning workout consists of
stretching, wt. training, running, throwing and
the use of an agility ladder. - ANSWER Conditioning to stay in shape for your
sport off season is a goal of every coach. The
challenge is convincing and motivating athletes
to have the discipline and drive to undertake the
program. Off-season conditioning is not
prohibited by these rules. Having the coach
involved in voluntary conditioning in order to
encourage, support and motivate athletes off
season is not a problem. However, THROWING is a
sport specific skill and is not part of the
non-sport specific conditioning that is allowed
within this rule. If throwing was involved or
any other sport-specific skill program, this
would be a violation of practice start and ending
dates. In addition, VOLUNTARY, is the key word.
NO implicit or explicit requirement of such
activity is allowed. Coaches cannot wink and say
its voluntary. Coaches should follow the spirit
of the practice rule and making sure that kids
participation in such an off-season activity is
purely voluntary and participation in this
conditioning may not benefit or hurt (beyond the
natural advantage of being in better shape) the
tryout consideration, playing time or any other
aspect of the students role or participation in
the high school season of that sport.
31Q As continued
QUESTION 4 In the spring I coach an AAU team
that is made up of only my girls basketball
players from my high school team. I am signed up
with the AAU and everything. Is this legal?
ANSWER Maybe, maybe not. There are several
factors to consider.-What is the purpose of this
team? To practice and play as a school team off
season? -How are signups managed? Are girls
required explicitly or implicitly to participate?
-Will their participation/performance on this
AAU team impact whether or not they make the high
school team or what role they will play on the
high school team (not considering the natural
benefit of becoming a more skilled basketball
player from participating in some off-season
program) or not make the high school team. If
so , it would be a violation. -Did the coach
restrict the team membership to only members of
the high school team or was it open to other
players from other areas other schools? If so,
this would be a violation. -Does the name of
the team, the mascot of the team, the equipment
of the team, even the colors of the jerseys of
the team relate in any way shape or form to the
high school? If so, this would be a violation.
If the high school coach is coaching an AAU
team for the benefit of the girls or boys in the
community who want to get better at basketball,
there would be no reason, other than trying to
have practice for your high school team off
season, not to invite other students in the
community to participate, to require your own
school team athletes to participate, to use
school equipment, school name, school mascots.
After all it would not be a school team and would
serve a totally different purpose. What is the
purpose of this activity is a key question that
must be asked. Remember the rule says that the
use of an outside organization cannot be used
to get around the rules. Do we want to
restrict our high school coaches to using their
coaching skills to benefit kids in their
community solely during the high school season?
Of course not, but we do want to restrict a high
school coach from coaching their high school team
to ONLY during the approved CCS practice start
dates. The purpose is to protect families, kids
and coaches from unreasonable demands that take
away from family time, academic pursuits and
other activities in order to participate in
sports at their local high school.
32Q As continued
- QUESTION 5 In the spring I coach an AAU team
that is made up of girls from our league. I am
signed up with the AAU and have a mixture of
players from the league, my school and other
schools. Is this legal? - ANSWER Maybe, maybe not. Simply having other
girls signed up from other schools in and of
itself does not make something that is otherwise
a violation to be ok. For example I have a team
that is really only my high school girls but I
invite one or two other girls to play so it is
legal. Remember outside teams cannot be used
to circumvent the practice start date rules. - If the high school coach is coaching an AAU team
for the benefit of the girls or boys in the
community who want to get - better at basketball, there would be no reason,
other than trying to have practice for your high
school team off - season, not to invite other students in the
community to participate, to require your own
school team athletes to - participate, to use school equipment, school
name, school mascots. After all it would not be a
school team and would - serve a totally different purpose. What is the
purpose of this activity is a key question that
must be asked. Remember - the rule says that the use of an outside
organization cannot be used to get around the
rules. - Do we want to restrict our high school coaches to
using their coaching skills to benefit kids in
their community solely - during the high school season? Of course not,
but we do want to restrict a high school coach
from coaching their high - school team to ONLY during the approved CCS
practice start dates. The purpose is to protect
families, kids and - coaches from unreasonable demands that take way
from family time, academic pursuits and other
activities in order to - participate in sports at their local high school.
- See question and Answer 4 for more specific
things to consider. The bottom line will be
making a - determination of the primary purpose of this
activity will need to be made before a
determination of
33Q As continued
- QUESTION 6 Could basketball players condition
(running on the track, lifting weights etc.)
prior to the Winter Start dates. Can this
conditioning be supervised by the basketball
coach? - ANSWER YES AND YES, as long at it is VOLUNTARY!
See question 3 for more details. - QUESTION 7 A High School coach is hired by the
local JC to have a night basketball classes at
the local JC campus under the jurisdiction of the
college. All of his players sign up for the
class along with others. Is this legal? - ANSWER Lots of questions must be asked in such
a scenario. Does the high school coach
normally teach JC classes? Are they an
employee of the JC and only coach high school
seasonally? Is there any implicit or explicit
requirement for the high school players to sign
up for this basketball class? What is the
curriculum and description of the class? Who can
sign up for the class? How are teams formed,
activities organized within the curriculum? Are
teams formed that match up players from the same
high school to play against players from another
high school? REMEMBER, outside organizations
cannot be used to circumvent these rules. - We must ALL evaluate activities and talk to our
coahces about the spirit of these rules, not just
the letter of the rules. Remember activities
that look like, smell like, act like a high
school practice or competition off season during
the school year not only are a violation of this
rule, but put the school ro school district in a
situation to encumber liability for any outcome
of any such activities.
34Q As continued
QUESTION 8 Is the coach allowed to request the
gym usage and supervise off-season activities or
would that have to be a parent? ANSWER Any
concern would not revolve SOLELY on who requested
gym time for any off-season activity. Open gyms,
off-season activities cannot be practices.
Please review the definition of practice. Who
requests the gym is irrelevant if the activity
held in the gym is not a violation. If it is a
violation the gym request of the coach would
probably be a confirmation that the intent of the
activity was an attempt to conduct practice in
violation of the practice rules.
35Q As continued
- QUESTION 9 What if school begins August 1st .
Can we start fall practice although it is before
the CCS Start date for practice? - ANSWER The start dates for the fall of 2009 is
August 14. Whether or not your school as begun
is irrelevant. No one can start practicing before
that date.
36Q As continued
- QUESTION 10 There is a Baseball Homerun Derby
scheduled to happen the first weekend in June-is
this a violation? - ANSWER It may be, again, it depends on the
specifics of how it is set up, organized, etc.
It would be much easier to host such an event
after the second Saturday in June when summer
starts and when CIF officially goes dark and
does not control the sports activities of its
member schools. One of the rules that does apply
all year long is CIF 510 Undue Influence.
Recruiting or trying to influence students to
enroll in a particular high school is forbidden
365 days a year.
37Q As continued
- QUESTION 11 If a high school volleyball coach
has his club volleyball program begin at his
school at 330 pm and goes to 530 pm and only
his players can get there to participate. Is this
a violation? - ANSWER This certainly has the potential of
being a serious violation and a clear attempt to
circumvent the practice start date rule by the
use of an outside organization. However, it
may also be just fine. If the club team was
formed so that players from the area were invited
to tryout, but it happened in this rural area
that only the high school players were
realistically available and able to participate
and it truly was a matter of circumstances that
kept others from being on this team just because
all the players were from one high school by
itself, everything else being rationally based
and reasonably structured, that by itself might
not make it a violation. Remember, the
determination will be based on the intent and
primary purpose of the activity with a discerning
eye to be able to establish that an outside
organization/activity has not been used to
circumvent the rules
38Q As continued
- QUESTION 12 If a coach has an open gym, can the
coach play in any pickup games during that open
gym without violating any open gym
Interpretations? - ANSWER Just by having the coach play would not
necessarily make this any type of violation. In
fact, some may argue that while the coach is
playing, he can hardly be coachingIt may not be
prudent however. Remember courts involved in
injury lawsuits involving minors often consider
whether the match up of those participating in
an athletic contest resulting in injury, was
reasonable and safe. A grown man playing
against young high school students may be deemed
a mis-match and may lead to a negative finding of
a court. Of course some may say the mis-match is
really that the varsity players are so good, the
older coach may have more exposure for an injury
to themself ?. Just be thoughtful about what
you are doing with SAFTEY of the student-athletes
involved ALWAYS being your primary concern. The
title of Open Gym cannot disguise what is
otherwise by its activity a practice. Its not
the name you put on the activity, its the
content of what goes on during that activity that
will determine whether its a violation or not.
39Q As continued
- QUESTION 13 If a team already has 2 scrimmages
in pre-season and they make the CCS Playoffs and
want to scrimmage another CCS playoff team after
the CCS seeding meeting and before their first
contest in the playoffs can they do this since
they can only have 2 scrimmages in a year? - ANSWER Yes, they can have an additional
scrimmage with another team in the playoffs, as
long as it is before either teams first CCS
playoff contest and after the seeding meeting for
that sport.
40Q As continued
- QUESTION 14 If the track team sends 2
individuals to one invitational track meet and
the rest of the team goes to another invitational
the same day how many contests does that count
for the team and for the individuals? - ANSWER This counts for 1 for the individuals.
It also counts for 1 for the team since both
invitational meets occurred on the same day. If
one of the students ran in both meets on the same
day, it would count for 2 for the individual, but
still count as 1 for the team.
41Q As continued
- QUESTION 15 A coach goes to a college
workout/club practice on Sunday during the high
school season and when he walks in he see two of
his athletes in the room working out? What
should he do? - ANSWER While what students do in their own time
during the season cannot be controlled by
coaches, the CIF Sunday rule is designed to
protect students from overuse injuries and
provide for a respite from the physical demands
of a high school season of practice and
competition. Parents should be encouraged to
discourage additional training sessions during
the high school season on Sunday in the same
sport in which they are participating at the high
school level. Coaches generally should not be
ANYWHERE their student athletes are on a Sunday
during the season of sport. - If a coach coincidentally stumbles unknowingly
into this type of scenario, the coach should
immediately excuse themselves and leave the
premises. They should upon the first opportunity
contact their school AD or Administration and
notify them about what happened. This provides
some protection for both the coach and the
student from a possible determination that there
has been a rule violation.
42WHAT ARE YOUR QUESTIONS??????