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Central Coast Section
April 20, 2009
  • Seminar on
  • 2009-10
  • Start Dates
  • Maximum Number of Contests
  • Other Pertinent Subjects

2
OVERVIEW
  • Start Dates Maximum Number of Contests were
    designed to help create a level of consistency
    across the entire section
  • Some leagues have had start dates and some have
    not
  • Now the CCS will have the task to enforce and
    interpret both Start Dates Maximum Number of
    Contests for all leagues

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START DATES
  • Review the specific dates on the chart Page 1
  • Fall Practice No earlier than the 6th Friday
    in the NFHS Calendar
  • Scrimmages No earlier than 1 week before 1st
    allowable game
  • Games No earlier than the Thursday in the 9th
    week in the NFHS Calendar
  • Winter Practice No earlier than the 1st Monday
    in November
  • Scrimmages No earlier than 1 week before 1st
    allowable game
  • Games No earlier than the Monday after
    Thanksgiving
  • Spring Practice No earlier than the 1st Monday
    in February
  • Scrimmages No earlier than 1 week before 1st
    allowable game
  • Games No earlier than the 4th Monday in
    February

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Concerns Raised
  • Why are the seasons different lengths? Why does
    the fall Season have 2 weeks of practice prior to
    the first game and the winter season has 3 weeks?
  • Fall season is only 13 weeks long
  • Winter season is 16 weeks long.
  • Spring Season is 15 weeks long
  • Rationale The winter and spring seasons have
    holiday breaks. Several sports are locked in by
    state/regional championships.
  • Note Soccer season was extended to match the
    basketball season-beginning in the 2009-10 school
    year.

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LAST REGULAR SEASON EVENT
  • -See chart on page 2-
  • This sets the last date a team or individual may
    have a regular season contest.
  • League commissioners may grant permission for
    non-varsity teams to do make up games after the
    CCS last regularly scheduled date.
  • Teams in CCS Playoff competition may scrimmage
    other CCS Playoffs teams in preparation for their
    playoff contest.
  • A team can have a non-league contest after their
    last league contest as long as it is before the
    last season date.

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PRACTICE
  • - Review Page 2 3 -
  • What is a practice / What isnt a practice
  • Interscholastic practice during the school year
    is defined as
  • any school team or individual activity organized
    by the coach that is intended to maintain or
    improve a student-athletes skill proficiency in
    a sport AND/OR
  • any school team or individual activity that
    includes skill drills, game situation drills,
    inter-squad scrimmages or games, chalk talks,
    film review, meetings outside of school time
    (excluding parent meetings). AND/OR
  • any other coach-directed or supervised school
    team or individual activity or instruction for a
    specific sport AND/OR
  • any other team or individual instruction for a
    specific sport organized or supervised by any
    team member, or anyone else associated with the
    team or the school AND/OR tryouts.

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PRACTICE (continued)
  • Practice cannot be longer than 3 hours in length.
  • There shall be a minimum of 2 hrs. between any
    two practice session in a single day.
  • No sport shall have more than 54 hrs. of practice
    between the start date for practice and first
    contest.

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FOOTBALL
  • Spring Football
  • allowed for no more than 10 days and no more than
    20 hours-total, no earlier than May 1st.
  • spring football cannot be used for tryouts and
    cannot be implicitly or explicitly mandated by
    coach or anyone associated in the program.
  • CIF 1203 B. During the Summer (existing rule)
  • During the summer period, CIF rules and
    regulations do not apply to any activities except
    as follows
  • (1) No physical conditioning or practice sessions
    for football prior to the opening of authorized
    practice may be conducted by a high school,
    unless specifically authorized by the appropriate
    Section
  • The CCS has implicitly given permission for
    football to conduct physical conditioning or
    practice sessions.

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OPEN GYMS etc.
  • What is the intent?
  • Open to publicthis means your entire school or
    district community (public) if your school or
    district restricts general public participation
    and only allows students enrolled in your school
    or district to participate in any activity on
    your site.
  • Supervised by school personnel for safety reasons
  • Cannot be mandatory
  • No written or unwritten instructions or
    instruction

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SUNDAY PRACTICES
  • 310. SUNDAY RESTRICTIONS
  • A. In order to provide at least one day of
    respite from involvement in interscholastic
    athletics each week, no interscholastic games or
    practices of any kind are to be held on Sunday.
  • (Approved May 2000 Federated Council)
  • Exception Those schools founded upon religious
    tenets that observe the Sabbath from Friday
    sundown until Saturday sundown may practice or
    play on Sundays. Said schools must register each
    year by August 1 for the following year with
    their Section office and indicate either Friday
    or Saturday as their alternate day of respite.
  • NOTE Declaration of Alternate Day of Respite
    form is available through your local CIF Section
    Office. (Approved May 2003 Federated Council)
  • B. Violation of Bylaw 310 will result in the
    following sanctions
  • (1) Practice for every practice conducted on a
    declared day of respite the violating school
    will be prohibited from conducting twice as many
    regularly scheduled practices (2 for 1)
  • (2) Game a game played on a declared day of
    respite will result in forfeiture of the game.
  • C. In addition to the above sanctions, the
    section depending on the violation may impose
    the following additional sanctions
  • (1) The final season record will be reduced by
    at least one win at the conclusion of the
    season
  • (2) The school will be placed on probation
  • (3) The team/individual will be ineligible to
    advance to or in section, regional or state
    championships
  • (4) Reduction of maximum number of contests
    allowed for the following year in that sport
  • (5) Repeated violation may result in suspension
    of membership in the CIF.
  • (Approved May 2004 Federated Council)

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SUNDAY PRACTICES
  • It is clear from the letter and spirit of this
    rule, that it is meant to provide a safeguard
    against coaches scheduling, requiring,
    organizing, coordinating encouraging or having
    anything at all to do with activities involving
    their high school players on Sunday.
  • Everyone deserves one day a week off.

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SUNDAY PRACTICES
  • Any High School Coach should not be at any
    activity involved in the sport in which they are
    coaching with any of their high school player(s)
    on Sunday during the season of sport.
  • A High School Coach should not even be involved
    in any activity involved in the sport in which
    they are coaching for other high school players
    who are in season.

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SUNDAY PRACTICES
  • A coach and a player or players together anywhere
    on a Sunday during the season that remotely has
    ANYTHING whatsoever to do with the sport in which
    you they are involved is a violation.
  • Leave the kids alone on Sunday!

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Outside Organizations
  • INTENT (Spirit of the Rule)
  • CIF By Law 514.
  • ONE SEASON OF SPORT
  • Each student shall be limited to one season of a
    particular sport for each school year.

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Outside Organizations
  • What does that Mean?
  • A school/coach/ assistant coach cannot
    implicitly or explicitly mandate students to
    participate and/or have a school program under
    the guise of another organization to have another
    season of sport.
  • Explicitly Clearly plainly without disguise
    or reservation of meaning. Not by reference or
    implication.
  • Implicitly Capable of being understood from
    something else, though unexpressed.

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Outside Organizations
  • This is NOT intended to
  • Prevent private lessons or club sports activity
  • nor
  • Designed to isolate the coach from the athletes
    in the off-season.
  • However
  • High School Coaches involved in such outside
    programs shall not implicitly or explicitly
    require any student-athletes on their high school
    team to participate in such.

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Outside Organizations
  • If teams or individuals competing or practicing
    with an outside organization using school names,
    uniforms, colors, insignias, mascots, school
    equipment, or anything that identifies them with
    a particular CCS high school, it shall be
    considered a school team.

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CIF/CCSSUMMER DARK Period
  • CCS Bylaws, Article VSection 5. SUMMER ACTIVITY
    (CIF 1203)
  • B. DURING THE SUMMER (defined for purposes of
    this bylaw by CCS as beginning the second
    Saturday in June each year)
  • During the summer period California
    Interscholastic Federation rules and regulations
    do not apply to any activities except as
    follows 
  • 1.No physical conditioning or practice sessions
    for football prior to the opening of authorized
    practice may be conducted by a high school,
    unless specifically authorized by the appropriate
    CIF Section. .(The CCS has allowed physical
    conditioning and/or practice sessions during the
    summer)
  • 2. Participation in any other sports during the
    summer is governed by the nationally recognized
    authority for each sport, if such authority exists

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  • Maximum Number of Contests

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Maximum Number of Contests- Review page 5 -
  • In all sports every contest is counted contest
    for contest except where noted in tournament
    competition.
  • Specific Sports that are impacted (tournaments)
    Basketball, Softball, Soccer,Tennis
  • Tournament Directors should design their
    tournaments so that all teams will receive the
    same number of contests.
  • Allows for the coach to count from the end of the
    season and not violate the maximum number of
    contests.

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Maximum Number of ContestsPenalties
  • - Review Page 6 -
  • Schools who find themselves in jeopardy of
    exceeding their maximum of contests may NOT
    cancel any league contests in order the be in
    compliance with this rule.
  • See Section G Page 6 for penalties

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Scrimmages/Jamborees/Alumni/Faculty Games
  • Scrimmages - Review Page 3
  • Maximum of 2 scrimmages
  • Do not count in teams maximum of contests
  • Post season scrimmages only between CCS Playoff
    teams and before 1st round.
  • Jamborees - Review Page 4
  • Must be league sanctioned, must be played prior
    to first league contest.
  • Do not count in teams maximum of contests
  • Limited to 1 jamboree per year

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Scrimmages/Jamborees/Alumni/Faculty
Games(Continued)
  • Alumni Faculty Games - Review page 4
  • Do not count in teams maximum of contests
  • Limited to 1 alumni and 1 faculty game per year
  • Limited to Varsity Competition only
  • Game must occur between 1st scrimmage date and
    CCS last regular season contest date
  • Review other parameters - Section 7 page 7

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  • Other Pertinent (but related) Subjects
  • All Star games (CIF Article 900)
  • Only seniors who have completed their season of
    sport
  • Any practice/tryout/game cannot be conducted
    until the conclusion of the last section or state
    contest in that sport
  • Undergraduates are prohibited from participating
    in any all-star event except during the summer
    black-out period.

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Other Pertinent (but related) Subjects
  • Tournament Sanctioning
  • Event involving four or more teams
  • Applications for sanctioning due dates
  • Fall sports Apr 10 (late date w/fee May 10)
  • Winter sports Sept 10 (late date w/fee Oct 10)
  • Spring sports Dec 1 (late date w/fee, Jan 1)
  • Tournaments inviting non-CIF teams (out of state)
    may require NFHS sanctioning as well
  • Minimum penalty for playing in a non-sanctioned
    event forfeit all contests played in the
    tournament

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Other Pertinent (but related) Subjects
  • Games vs. non-CIF opponents
  • Non-CIF opponents (out-of-state)
  • Any competition with a non-CIF member team must
    be approved by the League Commissioner and the
    CCS Commissioner using CCS Form 502
  • International opponents
  • Any competition with an international team must
    be approved by the League Commissioner and the
    CCS Commissioner using CCS Form 502 and be
    sanctioned by the CIF state office (fee required)

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SOME QUESTIONS TO CONDSIDER
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Q As continued
  • QUESTION 1 Can a coach open the batting cage
    and have instruction for a batter asking for help
    in the off season?
  • Answer Private instruction and coaches
    volunteering their time to help kids is a very
    positive thing. An activity like this should not
    be used to get around the practice rule or be
    used to augment practice for an individual player
    before or after practice starting and ending
    dates. However, in the off season should a
    player ask for some assistance from their high
    school coach and either with payment for services
    or not to the coach, we want our high school
    coaches helping kids. High School coaches have
    a great heart for helping kids with academics,
    sports, life in general. It is not the intention
    of practice starting dates to prohibit our
    coaches from continuing to help kids when they
    need it.

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Q As continued
  • QUESTION 2 A varsity softball coach, who also
    makes a living giving pitching and hitting
    lessons offers her varsity softball team the
    opportunity to come and work out in her indoor
    facility for free. During these workouts the
    varsity coaching staff is there-evaluating talent
    and offering constructive criticism.
  • ANSWER Private enterprises involving high
    school coaches away from school time and with no
    affiliation with the school is a rather common
    phenomenon (i.e. tennis pros, golf pros, club
    swimming coaches etc). The CCS is not authorized
    nor does it intend to restrict such private
    enterprises because that individual also coaches
    a high school team at some point during the
    school year. However, using your private
    enterprise to benefit your school team off-season
    is a violation of the spirit, if not the letter
    of this rule. Offering this special opportunity
    to the softball team players only from the
    coachs school off season would surely be
    considered a violation of this rule. If this
    occurred during the season (NOT on Sunday) it
    would be considered a practice and would be
    considered the same during the off season and
    would, therefore, be a violation of this rule.

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Q AND AS continued
  • QUESTION 3 A varsity baseball coach holds a
    team player meeting and tells the perspective
    players that starting after Thanksgiving he will
    be holding voluntary conditioning three days a
    week. His conditioning workout consists of
    stretching, wt. training, running, throwing and
    the use of an agility ladder.
  • ANSWER Conditioning to stay in shape for your
    sport off season is a goal of every coach. The
    challenge is convincing and motivating athletes
    to have the discipline and drive to undertake the
    program. Off-season conditioning is not
    prohibited by these rules. Having the coach
    involved in voluntary conditioning in order to
    encourage, support and motivate athletes off
    season is not a problem. However, THROWING is a
    sport specific skill and is not part of the
    non-sport specific conditioning that is allowed
    within this rule. If throwing was involved or
    any other sport-specific skill program, this
    would be a violation of practice start and ending
    dates. In addition, VOLUNTARY, is the key word.
    NO implicit or explicit requirement of such
    activity is allowed. Coaches cannot wink and say
    its voluntary. Coaches should follow the spirit
    of the practice rule and making sure that kids
    participation in such an off-season activity is
    purely voluntary and participation in this
    conditioning may not benefit or hurt (beyond the
    natural advantage of being in better shape) the
    tryout consideration, playing time or any other
    aspect of the students role or participation in
    the high school season of that sport.

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Q As continued
QUESTION 4 In the spring I coach an AAU team
that is made up of only my girls basketball
players from my high school team. I am signed up
with the AAU and everything. Is this legal?
ANSWER Maybe, maybe not. There are several
factors to consider.-What is the purpose of this
team? To practice and play as a school team off
season? -How are signups managed? Are girls
required explicitly or implicitly to participate?
-Will their participation/performance on this
AAU team impact whether or not they make the high
school team or what role they will play on the
high school team (not considering the natural
benefit of becoming a more skilled basketball
player from participating in some off-season
program) or not make the high school team. If
so , it would be a violation. -Did the coach
restrict the team membership to only members of
the high school team or was it open to other
players from other areas other schools? If so,
this would be a violation. -Does the name of
the team, the mascot of the team, the equipment
of the team, even the colors of the jerseys of
the team relate in any way shape or form to the
high school? If so, this would be a violation.
If the high school coach is coaching an AAU
team for the benefit of the girls or boys in the
community who want to get better at basketball,
there would be no reason, other than trying to
have practice for your high school team off
season, not to invite other students in the
community to participate, to require your own
school team athletes to participate, to use
school equipment, school name, school mascots.
After all it would not be a school team and would
serve a totally different purpose. What is the
purpose of this activity is a key question that
must be asked. Remember the rule says that the
use of an outside organization cannot be used
to get around the rules. Do we want to
restrict our high school coaches to using their
coaching skills to benefit kids in their
community solely during the high school season?
Of course not, but we do want to restrict a high
school coach from coaching their high school team
to ONLY during the approved CCS practice start
dates. The purpose is to protect families, kids
and coaches from unreasonable demands that take
away from family time, academic pursuits and
other activities in order to participate in
sports at their local high school.
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Q As continued
  • QUESTION 5 In the spring I coach an AAU team
    that is made up of girls from our league. I am
    signed up with the AAU and have a mixture of
    players from the league, my school and other
    schools. Is this legal?
  • ANSWER Maybe, maybe not. Simply having other
    girls signed up from other schools in and of
    itself does not make something that is otherwise
    a violation to be ok. For example I have a team
    that is really only my high school girls but I
    invite one or two other girls to play so it is
    legal. Remember outside teams cannot be used
    to circumvent the practice start date rules.
  • If the high school coach is coaching an AAU team
    for the benefit of the girls or boys in the
    community who want to get
  • better at basketball, there would be no reason,
    other than trying to have practice for your high
    school team off
  • season, not to invite other students in the
    community to participate, to require your own
    school team athletes to
  • participate, to use school equipment, school
    name, school mascots. After all it would not be a
    school team and would
  • serve a totally different purpose. What is the
    purpose of this activity is a key question that
    must be asked. Remember
  • the rule says that the use of an outside
    organization cannot be used to get around the
    rules.
  • Do we want to restrict our high school coaches to
    using their coaching skills to benefit kids in
    their community solely
  • during the high school season? Of course not,
    but we do want to restrict a high school coach
    from coaching their high
  • school team to ONLY during the approved CCS
    practice start dates. The purpose is to protect
    families, kids and
  • coaches from unreasonable demands that take way
    from family time, academic pursuits and other
    activities in order to
  • participate in sports at their local high school.
  • See question and Answer 4 for more specific
    things to consider. The bottom line will be
    making a
  • determination of the primary purpose of this
    activity will need to be made before a
    determination of

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Q As continued
  • QUESTION 6 Could basketball players condition
    (running on the track, lifting weights etc.)
    prior to the Winter Start dates. Can this
    conditioning be supervised by the basketball
    coach?
  • ANSWER YES AND YES, as long at it is VOLUNTARY!
    See question 3 for more details.
  • QUESTION 7 A High School coach is hired by the
    local JC to have a night basketball classes at
    the local JC campus under the jurisdiction of the
    college. All of his players sign up for the
    class along with others. Is this legal?
  • ANSWER Lots of questions must be asked in such
    a scenario. Does the high school coach
    normally teach JC classes? Are they an
    employee of the JC and only coach high school
    seasonally? Is there any implicit or explicit
    requirement for the high school players to sign
    up for this basketball class? What is the
    curriculum and description of the class? Who can
    sign up for the class? How are teams formed,
    activities organized within the curriculum? Are
    teams formed that match up players from the same
    high school to play against players from another
    high school? REMEMBER, outside organizations
    cannot be used to circumvent these rules.
  • We must ALL evaluate activities and talk to our
    coahces about the spirit of these rules, not just
    the letter of the rules. Remember activities
    that look like, smell like, act like a high
    school practice or competition off season during
    the school year not only are a violation of this
    rule, but put the school ro school district in a
    situation to encumber liability for any outcome
    of any such activities.

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Q As continued
QUESTION 8 Is the coach allowed to request the
gym usage and supervise off-season activities or
would that have to be a parent? ANSWER Any
concern would not revolve SOLELY on who requested
gym time for any off-season activity. Open gyms,
off-season activities cannot be practices.
Please review the definition of practice. Who
requests the gym is irrelevant if the activity
held in the gym is not a violation. If it is a
violation the gym request of the coach would
probably be a confirmation that the intent of the
activity was an attempt to conduct practice in
violation of the practice rules.
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Q As continued
  • QUESTION 9 What if school begins August 1st .
    Can we start fall practice although it is before
    the CCS Start date for practice?
  • ANSWER The start dates for the fall of 2009 is
    August 14. Whether or not your school as begun
    is irrelevant. No one can start practicing before
    that date.

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Q As continued
  • QUESTION 10 There is a Baseball Homerun Derby
    scheduled to happen the first weekend in June-is
    this a violation?
  • ANSWER It may be, again, it depends on the
    specifics of how it is set up, organized, etc.
    It would be much easier to host such an event
    after the second Saturday in June when summer
    starts and when CIF officially goes dark and
    does not control the sports activities of its
    member schools. One of the rules that does apply
    all year long is CIF 510 Undue Influence.
    Recruiting or trying to influence students to
    enroll in a particular high school is forbidden
    365 days a year.

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Q As continued
  • QUESTION 11 If a high school volleyball coach
    has his club volleyball program begin at his
    school at 330 pm and goes to 530 pm and only
    his players can get there to participate. Is this
    a violation?
  • ANSWER This certainly has the potential of
    being a serious violation and a clear attempt to
    circumvent the practice start date rule by the
    use of an outside organization. However, it
    may also be just fine. If the club team was
    formed so that players from the area were invited
    to tryout, but it happened in this rural area
    that only the high school players were
    realistically available and able to participate
    and it truly was a matter of circumstances that
    kept others from being on this team just because
    all the players were from one high school by
    itself, everything else being rationally based
    and reasonably structured, that by itself might
    not make it a violation. Remember, the
    determination will be based on the intent and
    primary purpose of the activity with a discerning
    eye to be able to establish that an outside
    organization/activity has not been used to
    circumvent the rules

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Q As continued
  • QUESTION 12 If a coach has an open gym, can the
    coach play in any pickup games during that open
    gym without violating any open gym
    Interpretations?
  • ANSWER Just by having the coach play would not
    necessarily make this any type of violation. In
    fact, some may argue that while the coach is
    playing, he can hardly be coachingIt may not be
    prudent however. Remember courts involved in
    injury lawsuits involving minors often consider
    whether the match up of those participating in
    an athletic contest resulting in injury, was
    reasonable and safe. A grown man playing
    against young high school students may be deemed
    a mis-match and may lead to a negative finding of
    a court. Of course some may say the mis-match is
    really that the varsity players are so good, the
    older coach may have more exposure for an injury
    to themself ?. Just be thoughtful about what
    you are doing with SAFTEY of the student-athletes
    involved ALWAYS being your primary concern. The
    title of Open Gym cannot disguise what is
    otherwise by its activity a practice. Its not
    the name you put on the activity, its the
    content of what goes on during that activity that
    will determine whether its a violation or not.

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Q As continued
  • QUESTION 13 If a team already has 2 scrimmages
    in pre-season and they make the CCS Playoffs and
    want to scrimmage another CCS playoff team after
    the CCS seeding meeting and before their first
    contest in the playoffs can they do this since
    they can only have 2 scrimmages in a year?
  • ANSWER Yes, they can have an additional
    scrimmage with another team in the playoffs, as
    long as it is before either teams first CCS
    playoff contest and after the seeding meeting for
    that sport.

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Q As continued
  • QUESTION 14 If the track team sends 2
    individuals to one invitational track meet and
    the rest of the team goes to another invitational
    the same day how many contests does that count
    for the team and for the individuals?
  • ANSWER This counts for 1 for the individuals.
    It also counts for 1 for the team since both
    invitational meets occurred on the same day. If
    one of the students ran in both meets on the same
    day, it would count for 2 for the individual, but
    still count as 1 for the team.

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Q As continued
  • QUESTION 15 A coach goes to a college
    workout/club practice on Sunday during the high
    school season and when he walks in he see two of
    his athletes in the room working out? What
    should he do?
  • ANSWER While what students do in their own time
    during the season cannot be controlled by
    coaches, the CIF Sunday rule is designed to
    protect students from overuse injuries and
    provide for a respite from the physical demands
    of a high school season of practice and
    competition. Parents should be encouraged to
    discourage additional training sessions during
    the high school season on Sunday in the same
    sport in which they are participating at the high
    school level. Coaches generally should not be
    ANYWHERE their student athletes are on a Sunday
    during the season of sport.
  • If a coach coincidentally stumbles unknowingly
    into this type of scenario, the coach should
    immediately excuse themselves and leave the
    premises. They should upon the first opportunity
    contact their school AD or Administration and
    notify them about what happened. This provides
    some protection for both the coach and the
    student from a possible determination that there
    has been a rule violation.

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