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1Surviving the Turbulent EconomyEconomic outlook
and sustaining investment yields and value
Association of California Water Agencies
December 3, 2008
2ModeratorTom Scaglione, Finance Director,
Vallecitos Water DistrictParticipantsDaniel
Dowell, Director of Investments, Pooled Money
Investment Account, CA State Treasurers
OfficeBrian Thomas, Chief Financial Officer,
Metropolitan Water District of So. CalDaniel
Wiles, Principal, Fieldman, Rolapp Associates
3What happened when it hit the fan?
- Liquidity went downway, way down
- Flight to qualityultra quality
- Spreads between Treasuries and everything widened
- Rates on Bonds up
- Unfortunately, rates on Treasuries down
- Players have exited the field
- Bye, Bye, GICs (useful for bond proceeds)no new
bids, AIG out
4State Treasurers Response
5What Investments Went Bad?
- How are those financials doing? E.g., Lehman,
WaMu, Citi, Goldman, Morgan, Wachoviathe list
goes on
6Safety, Liquidity, Yield Does Yield have any
validity as a goal in the current market?
- In other words, is the prime directive now to
cover your tuckus? - Is the credit spread sufficient to justify the
risks of going for greater yield? - Spreads exist between Treasuries and Corporate
Bonds - Are we down to stashing money in mattresses?
- Remember, the negative yield on short term
Treasuries during parts of September
7Short Term FundsWhat Sectors do you buy today?
- How about LAIF?
- Does the CDARs program provide any options? How
has it worked out in the real world? - Query Are we moving to a world where munis are
so cheap that they become suitable even for
governments?
8What Happens with Long Term MoneyPensions, OPEB,
Bond Reserves?
- Adjust asset allocations. Should long term
managers increase - Private equity
- Real estate holdings (commercial real estate)
- Hedge funds
- International
- Mortgage obligations ??
- GICs are dead (generally), what will replace
them?
9What are the traps in the current markets?
10Are there any opportunities in the current market?
- Widened spreads between Treasuries and Corporates.
11Will we see long term returns in the 7.75
range?
12Are Pension/OPEB Obligation Bonds Viable Now?
- Most of the time, POBs and OPEB bonds depend on
arbitraging the market - Do I feel lucky todayand for the next 20-30
years?
13Do the changes imply that active management is
not a superior alternative?
14Questions