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Title: Meeting with Herb


1
Meeting with Herb Steve2.20.03
  • So guys, weve got a few questions

2
Part One How it Works Now

3
Major Changes from Original Plans
  • Chiller removed
  • Water Cooling Tower no longer used
  • Rendered unnecessary once building was linked to
    chilled water system
  • Deny Valve added to chilled water return
  • Increased efficiency and decreased condensation
    at induction units
  • Water enters 45 degrees F
  • valve keeps water in system until it is 55
    degrees F

4
Major Changes from Original Plans
  • VFD (Variable Frequency Drives) added to air
    handlers
  • Control based on static pressure in ducts
  • Steam Humidifiers no longer in use
  • General humidity in building neither controlled,
    nor tracked
  • Exception the tenth floor
  • Control System partially upgraded to DDC

5
Part Two Basics and Definitions
6
Basics
  • AC 1 and AC 2 both two pipe systems
  • Means only one set of coils for water
  • 1 pipe in 1 pipe out 2 pipe
  • Have to manually drain pipes twice a year to
    change over from hot water system to cold water
    system
  • AC 1 handles the peripheral system
  • Serves all the induction units
  • Can release air at two different temperatures,
    one to north side of building, other to south

7
Basics
  • AC 2 serves core area
  • Core defined as all areas not bordering wall of
    building, plus all of floors 1 and 15
  • Only one outlet, thus no dual temp release
  • Cant run heat and cooling simultaneously
  • Can run 2 different release temperatures on AC 1
    and a third temp on AC 2

8
Definitions
  • Bridge Seasons
  • Spring and Fall, when on the verge between full
    heating and full cooling
  • Tough because only have two pipe system
  • Used to have to manually play with the vents to
    capture night cool for coming day
  • Summer Mode
  • Program Steve wrote to blow out all air from
    building at night, sub-cool building for next day
  • Possible area for improvement
  • Economizer Mode
  • Program that takes advantage of free cooling by
    using cool outside air when building air is
    hotter than outside air.

9
Definitions
  • End devices
  • When Siemens system was added end devices
    (valves, etc.) remained the same
  • PPCL (Powers Process Control Language)
  • Language control program is written in
  • Apparently a combination of Basic and Fortran

10
Part Three Control System
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Control System
  • Siemens DDC (Direct Digital Control)
  • Three level system
  • MLN (Management Level Network)
  • Run over a server, 27 consoles on campus
  • Herb has console in WJH, Steve has server
  • Aside hacked into earlier this year!!
  • Graphical interface on each console for ease of
    use
  • BLN (Building Level Network)
  • Actual network of wires and control panels in
    building
  • Interfaces with computer program to actuate
    algorithm
  • The main level that well be concerned with

12
Control System
  • FLC (Floor Level Control)
  • Fairly simple control enter needed parameters
    into program and it manipulates a few valves to
    ensure parameters are satisfied
  • 10th floor is only one in WJH really using this
    level of control
  • ASIDE Steve knows Siemens systems quite well
  • Would be willing to give presentation
  • Can probably get Siemens mechanic to show us the
    physical connections in the building

13
Analog vs. DDC (particularly thermostats)
  • Difference in Heating and Cooling controls
  • Cooling opens valve, increases water flow, thus
    lowers average temp of water in coils and cools
  • Heating closes valve, water stays longer, more
    heat diffuses
  • Analog stats cannot differentiate between
    heating and cooling seasons, so each season must
    have a seperate stat.
  • Every time switch hot and cold water problems
    with occupants use dial the same way, get
    opposite effect
  • DDC stats can be remotely programmed to account
    for seasonal change

14
Analog vs. DDC (particularly thermostats)
  • Analog Does not support remote control
  • DDC stats can operate on programmed algorithms,
    or disabled completely.
  • Analog devices do not provide data to the main
    control system
  • DDC devices report input and output parameters to
    the main system. The DDC system cannot see
    analog devices
  • More precise control is possible with DDC
  • Dynamic valve positioning, digital precision

15
Control Flow (Basement)
Intake
Filter Room
SF 1
Intake Plenum
To 19 duct (North Side) 28 duct (South Side).
Serves induction units.
Exhaust
Recirculated Plenum
Filter Room
SF 2
To 43 duct through central shaft. Serves core
system diffusers.
Return Air RF 1
Filter Rooms include A/C, Reheat, Humidifiers
Return Air from main shaft.
16
Control Flow (Basement)
17
Control Flow (Basement)
  • Control Points
  • Fan Speeds
  • Modulate to maintain pressure setpoint as
    measured by sensors in supply and return ducts
  • Damper positions
  • Statically linked
  • Opened or closed to maintain intake temp setpoint
  • Uses outside air temp and return air temp as
    inputs
  • summer mode and economizer mode turned on and
    off by outside air temp
  • Summer mode controls nighttime building purges
  • Economizer mode controls free cooling

18
Control Flow (Basement)
  • Control Points
  • Hot water temp
  • Linear function of outside air temp
  • 0o gt 180o water, 30o gt 160o water
  • Water flow to AC1/2
  • Modulated to maintain Supply air setpoint
  • AC2 supply setpoint
  • Linear function of the average core temp measured
    in 1st floor lobby, 6th floor common room , and
    15th floor conference room
  • AC1 setpoint is set manually

19
Control Flow (Floor Level)
  • Control Points
  • Water flow to reheat boxes and induction units
  • Controlled by local thermostats.
  • Induction units provide heating in winter and
    cooling in summer.
  • Reheat boxes provide heat in winter and nothing
    in summer.

20
Heat Exchange
  • Heats water in water circuit via heat exchangers
  • AC1 and AC2 on separate loops. (hx1/2)
  • HX 1 supports both hot and cold water
  • Condenses (if steam)
  • Leaves via return line
  • Condensate metered (steam)
  • Chilled water metered directly
  • Never leaves basement as steam

In from steam tunnels
Control Pressure To heat exchangers
15psiltpressurelt25psi
5psiltpressurelt15psi
Pressure ingt25psi
1st Spence Valve
2nd Spence Valve
21
Aside Domestic Hot Water
  • Domestic refers to sinks, etc.
  • Basically everything but heating system
  • No longer on steam heat
  • Used to be, but less efficient
  • Produced by two gas boilers in basement

22
Data Gathering/computer control
  • DDC system has the ability to log data from all
    compatible devices
  • DDC thermostats can log large numbers of
    subdatapoints
  • User activity, temp logs, etc.
  • Server has database of inputs and outputs
  • Analog example temperature gt pressure on valve
  • WJH only has DDC devices on 3 setpoint stats,
    10th floor, and some basement devices.
  • All DDC devices can be remotely controlled by
    main system
  • Disable user control
  • Change setpoint functions for winter/summer

23
10th Floor
  • On completely separate system from rest of
    building
  • Four pipe system
  • Allows simultaneous heating and cooling
  • Where winter cold water goes
  • Uses two gas boilers for hot water
  • Digital thermostats
  • Occupant Adjustable thermostats in human spaces
  • Humidity is controlled
  • 100 fresh air

24
Example 1 Graphical interface
25
Example 2 Data Points
26
Example 3 The Program
27
Diversity in WJH Thermostats of All Flavors
28
Other Miscellaneous Facts
  • Condensate Return Lines
  • Never installed
  • To compensate, added deny valve which holds
    chilled water in, raising average release temp to
    55o, meaning less temp differential, less
    condensate
  • Chilled water arrives at avg. temp of 45o
  • Return Air
  • Not ducted all the way to return shaft open
    plenum system
  • Works fine unless holes in ceiling mess up flow,
    interior partitions prevent free flow to return
    intakes, etc.

29
Metering Questions
  • Electricity/Steam
  • Accuracy of condensate meter
  • Didnt get to this check notes from earlier or
    trip to chilled water plant
  • Frequency of meter reading
  • Once a month (?) double check
  • Metering is done for building as a whole, no more
    specific data is available

30
Part Four Usage
31
Whos in WJH?
  • How is the building being used?
  • The following is off the top of Herbs head he
    has a day by day schedule of classes/sections and
    detailed floor plans if we need more info
  • Also suggested we contact Bill Santaro at the
    Classrooms office 5-3801, after 1030am
  • 14 classrooms 2 big auditoriums, 12 seminar
    rooms
  • About four hundred people in offices

32
What This Means for Control
  • No individual control of rooms based on occupancy
  • Heat assuming 100 occupancy
  • This is done
  • weekdays 7am-9pm
  • Saturday 7am-6pm
  • Sunday/holidays 7am-4pm
  • Lighting
  • Full schedule unclear
  • Follows same general pattern as heating
  • Exceptions lighting in stairs doubles 430-5pm
    (?)
  • Guards responsible for turning off manual hallway
    lights

33
Questions
  • Metering
  • How frequent?
  • How accurate?
  • Maintenance
  • How often is system checked against independent
    measurements?
  • History of leaks or other mechanical failure?
  • Usage
  • What exactly does it mean to heat for 100
    occupancy?
  • What are the different settings for heat and
    lighting day vs. night?
  • What is the exact schedule and means of switching
    lighting between day and night modes?
  • When is Economizer Mode used?
  • When is the system switched from hot to cold each
    year?

34
More Questions
  • Access
  • We need to start taking data
  • Security of data gathering devices
  • Swipe Card or key access to basement
  • Access to representative sampling of different
    rooms on both core and peripheral system
  • Example need to measure heat loss between time
    air leaves handlers in basement and reaches
    different floors (help determine efficiency of
    air ducts in building struts)

35
Even More Questions
  • Access Continued
  • Password access to Siemens system server?
  • Other way we can observe system at work?
  • Possible survey of WJH occupants

36
Sources
  • The preceding information was gathered by Keith
    Berkoben and Nathaniel Brooks during an interview
    with Herb Fuller (building manager of WJH) and
    Steve Robichaud conducted from 220-420pm,
    2/20/03.
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