Title: Meeting with Herb
1Meeting with Herb Steve2.20.03
- So guys, weve got a few questions
2Part One How it Works Now
3Major Changes from Original Plans
- Chiller removed
- Water Cooling Tower no longer used
- Rendered unnecessary once building was linked to
chilled water system - Deny Valve added to chilled water return
- Increased efficiency and decreased condensation
at induction units - Water enters 45 degrees F
- valve keeps water in system until it is 55
degrees F
4Major Changes from Original Plans
- VFD (Variable Frequency Drives) added to air
handlers - Control based on static pressure in ducts
- Steam Humidifiers no longer in use
- General humidity in building neither controlled,
nor tracked - Exception the tenth floor
- Control System partially upgraded to DDC
5Part Two Basics and Definitions
6Basics
- AC 1 and AC 2 both two pipe systems
- Means only one set of coils for water
- 1 pipe in 1 pipe out 2 pipe
- Have to manually drain pipes twice a year to
change over from hot water system to cold water
system - AC 1 handles the peripheral system
- Serves all the induction units
- Can release air at two different temperatures,
one to north side of building, other to south
7Basics
- AC 2 serves core area
- Core defined as all areas not bordering wall of
building, plus all of floors 1 and 15 - Only one outlet, thus no dual temp release
- Cant run heat and cooling simultaneously
- Can run 2 different release temperatures on AC 1
and a third temp on AC 2
8Definitions
- Bridge Seasons
- Spring and Fall, when on the verge between full
heating and full cooling - Tough because only have two pipe system
- Used to have to manually play with the vents to
capture night cool for coming day - Summer Mode
- Program Steve wrote to blow out all air from
building at night, sub-cool building for next day - Possible area for improvement
- Economizer Mode
- Program that takes advantage of free cooling by
using cool outside air when building air is
hotter than outside air.
9Definitions
- End devices
- When Siemens system was added end devices
(valves, etc.) remained the same - PPCL (Powers Process Control Language)
- Language control program is written in
- Apparently a combination of Basic and Fortran
10Part Three Control System
11Control System
- Siemens DDC (Direct Digital Control)
- Three level system
- MLN (Management Level Network)
- Run over a server, 27 consoles on campus
- Herb has console in WJH, Steve has server
- Aside hacked into earlier this year!!
- Graphical interface on each console for ease of
use - BLN (Building Level Network)
- Actual network of wires and control panels in
building - Interfaces with computer program to actuate
algorithm - The main level that well be concerned with
12Control System
- FLC (Floor Level Control)
- Fairly simple control enter needed parameters
into program and it manipulates a few valves to
ensure parameters are satisfied - 10th floor is only one in WJH really using this
level of control - ASIDE Steve knows Siemens systems quite well
- Would be willing to give presentation
- Can probably get Siemens mechanic to show us the
physical connections in the building
13Analog vs. DDC (particularly thermostats)
- Difference in Heating and Cooling controls
- Cooling opens valve, increases water flow, thus
lowers average temp of water in coils and cools - Heating closes valve, water stays longer, more
heat diffuses - Analog stats cannot differentiate between
heating and cooling seasons, so each season must
have a seperate stat. - Every time switch hot and cold water problems
with occupants use dial the same way, get
opposite effect - DDC stats can be remotely programmed to account
for seasonal change
14Analog vs. DDC (particularly thermostats)
- Analog Does not support remote control
- DDC stats can operate on programmed algorithms,
or disabled completely. - Analog devices do not provide data to the main
control system - DDC devices report input and output parameters to
the main system. The DDC system cannot see
analog devices - More precise control is possible with DDC
- Dynamic valve positioning, digital precision
15Control Flow (Basement)
Intake
Filter Room
SF 1
Intake Plenum
To 19 duct (North Side) 28 duct (South Side).
Serves induction units.
Exhaust
Recirculated Plenum
Filter Room
SF 2
To 43 duct through central shaft. Serves core
system diffusers.
Return Air RF 1
Filter Rooms include A/C, Reheat, Humidifiers
Return Air from main shaft.
16Control Flow (Basement)
17Control Flow (Basement)
- Control Points
- Fan Speeds
- Modulate to maintain pressure setpoint as
measured by sensors in supply and return ducts - Damper positions
- Statically linked
- Opened or closed to maintain intake temp setpoint
- Uses outside air temp and return air temp as
inputs - summer mode and economizer mode turned on and
off by outside air temp - Summer mode controls nighttime building purges
- Economizer mode controls free cooling
18Control Flow (Basement)
- Control Points
- Hot water temp
- Linear function of outside air temp
- 0o gt 180o water, 30o gt 160o water
- Water flow to AC1/2
- Modulated to maintain Supply air setpoint
- AC2 supply setpoint
- Linear function of the average core temp measured
in 1st floor lobby, 6th floor common room , and
15th floor conference room - AC1 setpoint is set manually
19Control Flow (Floor Level)
- Control Points
- Water flow to reheat boxes and induction units
- Controlled by local thermostats.
- Induction units provide heating in winter and
cooling in summer. - Reheat boxes provide heat in winter and nothing
in summer.
20Heat Exchange
- Heats water in water circuit via heat exchangers
- AC1 and AC2 on separate loops. (hx1/2)
- HX 1 supports both hot and cold water
- Condenses (if steam)
- Leaves via return line
- Condensate metered (steam)
- Chilled water metered directly
- Never leaves basement as steam
In from steam tunnels
Control Pressure To heat exchangers
15psiltpressurelt25psi
5psiltpressurelt15psi
Pressure ingt25psi
1st Spence Valve
2nd Spence Valve
21Aside Domestic Hot Water
- Domestic refers to sinks, etc.
- Basically everything but heating system
- No longer on steam heat
- Used to be, but less efficient
- Produced by two gas boilers in basement
22Data Gathering/computer control
- DDC system has the ability to log data from all
compatible devices - DDC thermostats can log large numbers of
subdatapoints - User activity, temp logs, etc.
- Server has database of inputs and outputs
- Analog example temperature gt pressure on valve
- WJH only has DDC devices on 3 setpoint stats,
10th floor, and some basement devices. - All DDC devices can be remotely controlled by
main system - Disable user control
- Change setpoint functions for winter/summer
2310th Floor
- On completely separate system from rest of
building - Four pipe system
- Allows simultaneous heating and cooling
- Where winter cold water goes
- Uses two gas boilers for hot water
- Digital thermostats
- Occupant Adjustable thermostats in human spaces
- Humidity is controlled
- 100 fresh air
24Example 1 Graphical interface
25Example 2 Data Points
26Example 3 The Program
27Diversity in WJH Thermostats of All Flavors
28Other Miscellaneous Facts
- Condensate Return Lines
- Never installed
- To compensate, added deny valve which holds
chilled water in, raising average release temp to
55o, meaning less temp differential, less
condensate - Chilled water arrives at avg. temp of 45o
- Return Air
- Not ducted all the way to return shaft open
plenum system - Works fine unless holes in ceiling mess up flow,
interior partitions prevent free flow to return
intakes, etc.
29Metering Questions
- Electricity/Steam
- Accuracy of condensate meter
- Didnt get to this check notes from earlier or
trip to chilled water plant - Frequency of meter reading
- Once a month (?) double check
- Metering is done for building as a whole, no more
specific data is available
30Part Four Usage
31Whos in WJH?
- How is the building being used?
- The following is off the top of Herbs head he
has a day by day schedule of classes/sections and
detailed floor plans if we need more info - Also suggested we contact Bill Santaro at the
Classrooms office 5-3801, after 1030am - 14 classrooms 2 big auditoriums, 12 seminar
rooms - About four hundred people in offices
32What This Means for Control
- No individual control of rooms based on occupancy
- Heat assuming 100 occupancy
- This is done
- weekdays 7am-9pm
- Saturday 7am-6pm
- Sunday/holidays 7am-4pm
- Lighting
- Full schedule unclear
- Follows same general pattern as heating
- Exceptions lighting in stairs doubles 430-5pm
(?) - Guards responsible for turning off manual hallway
lights
33Questions
- Metering
- How frequent?
- How accurate?
- Maintenance
- How often is system checked against independent
measurements? - History of leaks or other mechanical failure?
- Usage
- What exactly does it mean to heat for 100
occupancy? - What are the different settings for heat and
lighting day vs. night? - What is the exact schedule and means of switching
lighting between day and night modes? - When is Economizer Mode used?
- When is the system switched from hot to cold each
year?
34More Questions
- Access
- We need to start taking data
- Security of data gathering devices
- Swipe Card or key access to basement
- Access to representative sampling of different
rooms on both core and peripheral system - Example need to measure heat loss between time
air leaves handlers in basement and reaches
different floors (help determine efficiency of
air ducts in building struts)
35Even More Questions
- Access Continued
- Password access to Siemens system server?
- Other way we can observe system at work?
- Possible survey of WJH occupants
36Sources
- The preceding information was gathered by Keith
Berkoben and Nathaniel Brooks during an interview
with Herb Fuller (building manager of WJH) and
Steve Robichaud conducted from 220-420pm,
2/20/03.