Title: Training Students in the Lab ASHA-NIDCD Lessons For Success Conference
1Training Students in the LabASHA-NIDCD Lessons
For Success Conference
- Elena Plante, Ph.D.
- The University of Arizona
2With Practical Advice from
- Pélagie Beeson
- Carol Bender
- Julia Evans
- Susan Felsenfeld
- Marc Fey
- Merrill Garrett
- Ted Glattke
- Judith Gierut
- Ron Gillam
- Shelley Gray
- Audrey Holland
- Tiffany Hogan
- Kimbrough Oller
- Elizabeth Peña
- Lyn Turkstra
3Philosophy
- What is the primary goal of the lab experience?
- Completing the research?
- Generating excitement about a research career?
- Introducing students to how research works?
- Engendering an appreciation for the role of
research in the profession? - Training someone to be a successful researcher?
- What are the secondary goals?
4Different Philosophies
- Undergraduate
- Completing the research.
- Generating excitement about a research career.
- Masters/AuD (theses)
- Introducing students to how research works.
- Ph.D.
- Informed teachers/practitioners
- Researchers
5Expectations
Need to be made crystal clear. (multiple
respondents)
- Yours
- Goal relative to students level.
- Further lab research.
- Meet important deadlines.
- Meet expectations for professional conduct.
- Meet expectations for level of effort.
- Publication opportunities?
- Participation beyond assigned duties?
- Students
- Goal based on?
- Gain specific skills?
- Get a letter of rec?
- Be in line for a job?
- Publications?
- Explore a career option?
- Prioritize work relative to my classes.
- Prioritize work around my social life.
6For every student in the lab
- Can they articulate their goal for being in the
lab?
A. Holland, J. Gierut
7Undergraduates
- Need to feel they are part of something
important. (R. Gillam, M. Fey) - Need to see others in the lab as regular people
- Contact with more advanced students
- Ill sleep when Im dead not the best motto
- Treat them as if they are headed for a Ph.D. (J.
Evans). - Need to feel connected to a community.
- Easier to host 2 undergraduates than 1 (E.
Plante, S. Felsenfeld) - Match grads with undergrads. (R Gillam, S. Gray)
- Need to know the others in the lab.
- Need time with you. (L. Turkstra, E. Peña)
8Masters/Au.D.
- Typically come with
- No practical research experience.
- Limited ability to recognize which bodies of
literature are relevant. - Difficulty critically assessing the literature.
- No experience translating ideas into an
experimental design. - No or only introductory statistics .
- Have 12 to 18 months to complete a thesis
9Practical Advice
- Recruit good students in their first semester.
- Keep a list of short, do-able projects they can
chose from. (E. Plante, E. Peña) - Reconsider the sequence of experiences the
student gets - Promote transfer of ownership for the project.
(practically everyone mentioned this)
10Practical Advice
- I've only worked with Masters' students and
undergraduates and the way that I've gotten them
interested in research is by fanning "their"
passions. Great for them, although probably not
as good as if I always lured them into areas of
my own expertise in following them where their
passions take them. Not so good for me. It's
one reason why I'm not a more productive
researcher today. So please use my idea, but
don't identify me.
Anonymous
11Ph.D.s
- There are two basic approaches
- mentoring in helping students become who
they want to be. - and mentoring students to become who you think
successful Ph.D.s should be. - A. Holland
- Perhaps a happy medium?
12Training Researchers
- To train researchers, research needs to be the
primary focus of the Ph.D. - This is not the M.S./Au.D. degree extended.
- Prospective students often dont know this.
- Time allocation needs to reflect the primary
focus. - Get students into the lab right away.
- Evaluate the behaviors you want to encourage.
- Are grades on the students annual review?
- Or is manuscripts written or grants submitted?
13Predicting Success
- Scenario 1
- Put new employees on carefully selected projects
for which - Mistakes wont hold up critical work.
- Allow worker to work independently until they are
up to speed. - Scenario 2
- Throw them in the deep end
- A project component necessary for anothers
success. - Something requiring coordination with others.
- Work needs to meet a deadline.
Scenario 2 is associated with higher retention
and success rates
14A Survey of Ph.D. Grads
- The least satisfied Ph.D. graduates
- Had only a loose fit to their mentors interests.
- Had the fewest publication opportunities.
- The most satisfied Ph.D. students had
- Had close fit with their mentors interests.
- Had chance to guide a pre-dissertation study from
start to finish.
U of Arizona, last 7 years
15Other Core Competencies
- Speaking
- Progress reports on ongoing work
- Use a format that covers critical elements
- Give a time limit
- Tell people what you are doing at every
opportunity (T. Glattke) - Undergrad or visiting student lab tours
- Show and tell for Department events
- Departmental seminars
- Preview formal talks
16Other Core Competencies
- Writing
- All students should keep a lab log or journal.
(T. Glattke) - Student should practice writing like artists
practice drawing. - Graduate students should write a little every
day. (T. Glattke) - Abstracting literature as a writing tool. (J.
Gierut)
17Other Core Competencies
- Reasoning
- The ability to evaluate theory and evidence.
- Knowledge of how ideas evolve in the literature.
- Seeing the forest for the trees in the
literature. - Use of abstracting as the basis of discussion.
(J. Gierut) - The ability to identify the holes in the
literature (T. Hogan)
18Other Core Competencies
- Problem Solving
- Efficiency vs. Student independence
- Fixing problems identified by the student
- Gives beginning Ph.D. students quick success.
- Gives them a sense of support.
- Direction to resources to solve problems
- Provides a transition phase for Ph.D. students.
- Acknowledging problems only
- Requires student independence.
- Shows trust in the student capabilities.
- Students with the best futures are self
starters and troubleshooters (M. Fey)
19Other Core Competencies
- Ethical issues
- Researchers are truth seekers (K. Oller)
- Mandatory Human Subjects Protection/Animal
Welfare Training. - Scenario training specific to the labs
activities - Authorship issues
- Refer to professional standards
- Align student mentor expectations
20Hard Realities
- It is so flattering to have someone ask to work
with you that it is easy to overlook red flags. - Not all doc students were the student you were.
- Not everyone who believes they should get a Ph.D.
are correct in that belief. - A women-dominated field that cannot accommodate
the issues of women during training (and
employment) has no future.
21Postdoctoral Fellows
- Need techniques from your lab.
- Need experience running studies.
- Their own studies.
- Your studies.
- Need publications.
- Get the dissertation submitted.
- Use your labs infrastructure to assist research
efficiency. - Need to begin to develop a national presence.
- Recommend them for professional opportunities.
- Support travel to conferences.
22Postdoctoral Fellows
- Dont have them too early in your career.
- Dont rely on them for managing your workload.
- Do get set them up with mentors outside your lab.
- Do give them experience managing other people in
your lab.
23Lab Meetings
- Social meetings Feed them and they will come.
- Gives a sense of community
- Lowers intimidation factor
- Research meetings
- Communicates importance of the work
- Provides venue for oral presentation
- Provides for efficiency of scale
- Caveats Wed rather do the work than meet
about it
24Lab Meetings
- Make sure everyone has the labs big picture,
where their part fits in, and what projects have
priority. - Separate research from logistics meetings (J.
Evans) - Schedule with appropriate frequency for the labs
needs. - Have an agenda. (M. Garret)
- Expect key players to be prepared.
- Provide an opportunity for junior members to
voice an opinion. - Have opportunities for undergrads to present. (J
Gierut) - Consider the functionality of your own
interaction style. (M. Garret) - Prevent digression.
25General Practical Advice
- Helping students set realistic goals is critical
to their success. (T. Hogan, S. Gray) - Make the process seem manageable concrete.
Attach timelines (S. Felsenfeld) - Protocol manuals provide a starting point and
promote competency. (J. Gierut) - Lab web pages are useful (S. Gray)
- Avoid N.I.H. attitudes (yours and theirs)
Not in house
26General Practical Advice
- Undergraduates are better lab members than
Masters/Au.D. students. - Masters theses always take longer than you think.
- A good Ph.D. student is a wonderful thing, but
consumes time. A bad Ph.D. student tends to take
little of your time. - A weak Ph.D. program cannot be salvaged by a 2
year postdoc.
27Glattkes Maxims for Students
- Don't be afraid to try new things. You cannot
break the equipment and if you do, its only
money. - Students should keep a journal. Every day should
find them writing in the journal and any changes
they make in protocols, etc., should be recorded.
You think you will remember, but you wont. And
you certainly wont in a year. - Analyze data as you go so you don't get to an end
point an realize something was amiss. Two of my
students had to re-run a ton of subjects because
of miscues. - Keep an open mind while you look at data. You
never know when you'll discover something. - Tell people what you are doing at every
opportunity. Invite others into the lab and do
show and tell. The more you talk about your
projects, the better you will be at it. - Write a little every day, or if not every day,
insure that you break the writing into small
pieces that you can manage and feel good about.
Don't save it up until Sunday night. - Students are usually haven't had enough practice
to crank out an abstract on the first try. - Quiet weekend days in the lab are the best.
- Don't spill your coffee on the keyboard.
Theodore Glattke, Ph.D., Professor, University of
Arizona.
28Benders Maxims for Mentors
- Don't be patronizing, but assume no knowledge on
the part of the undergraduate when the student
starts. That way you can be pleasantly surprised
when your student knows something (or even a lot)
but you won't be disappointed if they know little
to nothing about the work. It also avoids
problems with miscommunication. - Encourage the students to ask questions and never
make it uncomfortable for them to do so. - Make your expectations very clear (but leave the
door open for negotiation if something isn't
going to work for them) - Don't forget to share your enthusiasm and passion
for your research with them...it can be
infectious! - Patience, patience, patience -- remember they are
learning and if we do a good job in introducing
them to research our efforts will be richly
rewarded in a myriad of ways - Listen to what the students say, and what they
don't say--we have a lot to learn from them and
we need to be open to what they are telling us. - Remember you own experience as undergraduate
researchers...what did you like and not like? - Many of the undergraduates will someday be your
colleagues, so it is important to establish
collegial relationships with them.....and have
fun with this!
Carol Bender, Ph.D., Director of the
Undergraduate Biology Research Program,
University of Arizona