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Title: Bad Beats


1
Bad Beats Living to Tell About Them
  • 7 Lessons in Risk Management

2
When Genius Failed
  • The Fall of LTCM

3
Even the Best the Brightest
  • 2 Nobel Prize winners
  • Head of Solomans (Citi Bank) bond desk
  • Head of Federal Reserve New York
  • Raised 1.4 Billion in 1994
  • Managing 4.2 Billion by 1998

4
Can Lose Money Too
  • Bet that Russian bonds would go up
  • Bought a ton
  • Russian Bonds eventually did go up!!!!!
  • Lost it all and bailed out by the Federal Reserve

5
Black Monday
  • The 100 Year Flood

6
Black Monday
  • Monday, October 19, 1987
  • Dow was down big on the previous Monday
  • Lost 25 on Black Monday

7
Lesson 1 Crowds Can be Irrational
  • You never know what the markets will do
  • Never say, This will never happen
  • Taking a stand can be dangerous
  • You have to be prepared for the 100 year flood

8
AMPEX
  • Highs Lows are Relative

9
AMPEX
  • Patents on all the digital cameras
  • Would you like to make 100?
  • Would you like to make 400?

10
Enron
  • Fell from 80 to nothing
  • People bought all the way down
  • Used to be the 8th biggest company in the world
  • The government would never let a company this
    big fail.

11
Lesson 2 Buying Low Is Not the Same as Buying
Value
  • Low price doesnt mean its lower risk
  • Buying Opportunity and Company Going to the
    Shit Hole
  • If a stock is really going to 50, there is
    nothing wrong with buying it at 10 rather than 5

12
The Fall of Barings Bank
  • The Story of Nick Leeson

13
Nick Leeson Baring Bank
  • Oldest bank in England, aka. Queens Bank
  • Leeson Superstar, head of global markets
  • Shorted the Nikkei 250 at the early 90s
  • Barings Bank went bankrupt and was bought by ING
    for 1.00

14
Lesson 3 Admit Your Mistakes
  • Shorted the Nikkei
  • Shorted more when the Nikkei went up
  • Lost 1.3 Billion in total
  • Lesson NEVER AVERAGE DOWN

15
Stop Loss
  • Get out of the trade regardless
  • Its not about how often you are right
  • The size of the win/loss matters
  • You Can Always Come Back Play Again Tomorrow!!!

16
Stanley Druckenmiller Spanks the Bond Market
  • The Talented Shines Young

17
Stan is the Man
  • Former right hand man to George Soros
  • One of the youngest on the Forbes list
  • Bought US Government Bonds a week from its all
    time low
  • Lost all of his companys money and the fund went
    bankrupt.

18
Lesson 4 Position Sizing
  • Time Frame Volatility
  • Close enough that the losses are bearable
  • Far enough that it wont be hit if you are right
  • How often can you lose with your stop loss?
  • Does the stop loss match your performance?

19
Google
  • So your stock went up do you sell???

20
The Next Big Thing
  • IPOed at 80, soon reached 120
  • Was trading at 80x Earrings
  • Sold the stock
  • Google, is now trading at 400.

21
When do you get out?
  • Most people only teach you about what to get into
    and when to get in
  • How do you know if you are right?
  • When do you get out?

22
Lesson 5 Trailing Stops
  • An extension of your stop loss
  • Moves-up as your stock rises
  • Example 100 stock, stop loss at 95
  • Stock goes to 125, trailing stop moves to 120
  • You lock in profit as the stock moves up

23
The Old Boys Club
  • Sorry, you are not invited

24
The Fall of the Yen
  • The Yen rose 5 in one day on a Friday!!!
  • On no news, nothing
  • Next Monday Announcement that at the G7 meeting
    that pressure was placed on Japan to not suppress
    the Yen

25
Lesson 6 The News Comes Late
  • People who know more than you would have acted on
    the information already
  • The price is not falling for No Reason
  • There is a reason, you just dont know it
  • Note Differentiate b/w standard fluctuation and
    a real fall

26
Oil Went Through the Roof
  • There is more than stocks

27
1970s
  • The Dow lost 50 in the decade
  • Commodity prices went through the roof

28
Past Two Years
  • Dow stuck around 10 500
  • Oil more than doubled
  • Natural gas rose more than 100

29
Lesson 7 Expand Beyond Stocks
  • Commodities run opposite to stocks
  • FX is completely uncorrelated to stocks
  • Intermarket Analysis by John Murphy

30
Recap
  • Even the best can lose
  • Crowds can be irrational
  • Buying Low Price ? Buying Value
  • Admit you are wrong
  • Position Sizing Lose all your when you are
    right
  • Dont cap your earning potential
  • The news might be too late
  • Diversify

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