Title: And it
1Natural Cell Size
- And its implications to beekeeping and Varroa
mites
2Presentations online
- Before you take copious notes, all these
presentations are online here - http//www.bushfarms.com/beespresentations.htm
3Bee Camp
- http//www.bushfarms.com/beescamp.htm
4Everything works if you let it
5Varroa Life Cycle
- Foundress enters the brood cell just before
capping. - Lays one egg about every 30 hours.
- First is male the rest are female.
- Females have to reach maturity and mate to be
viable and this takes 10.5 days from when the egg
is laid. - Typical number of offspring in a worker cell with
21 day cycle (capped on day 9 and emerge 12 days
later) is between one and two (1.5 - 0.5) in a
drone cell between three and four (3.5 - 0.5).
6Varroa Life Cycle
- During its time in the capped cell all of those
Varroa, foundress and offspring, feed on the
pupae weakening it and spreading viruses. - After emergence of the bee, the viable mites (the
foundress mite and the one or two that made it to
maturity and mated) go into their phoretic stage
clinging to the bees and sucking their hemolymph
like a tick, again spreading viruses and
weakening the bees.
7Using Natural Cell Size Against Varroa?
- Either cell size helps with Varroa or it does not
- If it does, you have helped the Varroa problem
- If it does not,
- you have
- not hurt the
- Varroa problem
8Cell Size and Bee Size
- Standard foundation has been upsized
- That upsizing has caused a bee that is 150 of
its natural size - The fact that upsizing foundation makes a bigger
bee and that we now have upsized is well
documented by Baudoux, Pinchot, Gontarski, and
most recently, McMullan and Brown. -
9Small Cell Natural Cell?
- Small cell has been purported by some (including
me), to help control Varroa. - Small Cell is 4.9mm cell size.
- Standard foundation is 5.4mm cell size.
- What is natural cell size?
10A couple of References
- Recent The influence of small-cell brood combs
on the morphometry of honeybees (Apis
mellifera)--John B. McMullan and Mark J.F. Brown - Historic references are listed here see
www.bushfarms.com/beesnaturalcell.htm near the
bottom of the page (including a link to the above
paper)?
11What is natural cell size?
- Reasonable Assumptions
- Can we assume that the bees know the answer to
this question? - Can we assume if we let them they will answer the
question? - Can we assume that doing what is natural for them
is the most likely correct size for cells?
12Baudoux 1893
- Made bees larger by using larger cell foundation
to make larger cells. Pinchot, Gontarski and
others got the size up as large as 5.74mm. But
AI Roots first foundation was 5 cells to an inch
which is 5.08mm. Later he started making it 4.83
cells per inch. This is equivalent to 5.26mm. - (ABC XYZ of beekeeping 1945 edition page
125-126.)?
13Tipping point for me for Varroa
- Tried
- VSH (SMR)
- Russian
- Minnesota Hygenics
- Buckfasts
- Carniolans
- All Americans
- Italians
14No Survivors to Breed From
- 100 losses to Varroa
- Tens of thousands of dead Varroa on the bottom
board - Varroa feces in the brood cells
15Natural Comb and Small Cell
- No Varroa losses on Natural Comb and Small Cell
comb. - Still had severe winter losses to other causes
until changing to feral survivors. - Genetics appears to be important to survival, but
not the tipping point for survival with Varroa.
16Sevareid's Law
- The leading cause of problems is solutions.
17Typical Foundation Today
18Dadant Wax 5.4mm
19Mann Lake Rite Cell 5.4mm
20Pierco Deep Frame 5.25mm
21Pierco Medium Sheet 5.2mm
22Dadant 4.9mm Small Cell
23Mann Lake PF100 and PF120 4.95mm
24Unregressed Top Bar Hive Comb 4.7mm
25How do smaller cells help?
- Male survivorship
- Less male mites survive
- Reproduction of Varroa destructor in South
African honey bees does cell space influence
Varroa male survivorship? Stephen J. MARTIN, Per
KRYGER - http//www.apidologie.org/index.php?optioncom_art
icleaccessstandardItemid129url/articles/apid
o/pdf/2002/01/Martin.pdf
26How do smaller cells help?
- Shortened Pupation
- A model of the mite parasite, Varroa destructor,
on honeybees (Apis mellifera) to investigate
parameters important to mite population growth. D
Wilkinson, , G.C Smith - http//www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S
0304380001004409
27Shortened Pupation
- Less Varroa Because
- Capping times shorter by 24 hours
- Less Varroa in the cell when its capped
- Postcapping times shorter by 24 hours
- Less Varroa reach maturity and mate by emergence
- More chewing out of Varroa
28Pre and Post capping times and Varroa
- 8 hours shorter capping time halves the number of
Varroa infesting a brood cell. - https//www.researchgate.net/publication/41700870_
Effect_of_the_size_of_worker_brood_cells_of_Africa
nized_honey_bees_on_infestation_and_reproduction_o
f_the_ectoparasitic_mite_Varroa_jacobsoni_Oud - 8 hours shorter post capping time halves the
number of offspring of a Varroa in the brood cell.
29Accepted days for capping and Post Capping(based
on observing bees on 5.4mm comb)?
- Capped 9 days after egg laid
- Emerges 21 days after egg laid
30Dzierzons Observations on Natural Comb
- "When the young worker-bee has left the cell
which, reckoning from the egg, will be the case
at the end of nineteen days, under favourable
circumstances..." Jan Dzierzon, Rational
Bee-Keeping, 1882 English edition, Pg 20
31Hubers Observations on Natural Comb
- Capped 8 days after egg layed
- Emerged 20 days after egg layed
- 3(egg)5(vermicular)1.5(capping)3(capped
larva)7.5(nymph)20 - If the day the egg is layed is the first day then
this would be half way through the twentieth day.
32Hubers Observations on Natural Comb
- The worm of workers passes three days in the
egg, five in the vermicular state, and then the
bees close up its cell with a wax covering. The
worm now begins spinning its cocoon, in which
operation thirty-six hours are consumed. In
three days, it changes to a nymph, and passes
six days in this form. It is only on the
twentieth day of its existence, counting from the
moment the egg is laid, that it attains the fly
state. - FRANCIS HUBER 4 September 1791.
33Hubers Observations on Natural Comb
- Note this is a quote from the 1809 English
translation and it is almost identical to the
1821 and 1841 English translations, all of which
say "six days." However, I have since found the
original French which says, in both the 1792
edition and the 1814 edition "sept jours demi"
which should be translated 7 1/2 days. This makes
it come to 20 days. Otherwise it would be 18 ½
days.
34My observations on 4.95mm cell size
- Capped 8 days after layed
- Emerged 19 days after layed
35Dimensions of cellsAccording to Baudoux
- Cell Width Cell Volume
- 5.555 mm 301 mm3
- 5.375 277
- 5.210 256
- 5.060 237
- 4.925 222
- 4.805 206
- 4.700 192
- From ABC XYZ of Bee Culture 1945 edition pg 126
365.4mm4.9mm
37Things that affect cell size
- Worker intention for the comb at the time it was
drawn - Drone brood
- Worker brood
- Honey storage
- The size of the bees drawing the comb
- The spacing of the top bars
38What is Regression?
- Large bees, from large cells, cannot build
natural sized cells. They build something in
between. Most will build 5.1mm worker brood
cells. - The next brood cycle will build cells in the
4.9mm range. - The only complication with converting back to
Natural or Small cell is this need for regression.
39Regressing
- If you dont mind plastic, the fasted method with
currently available products is to put the bees
on Mann Lake PF100s (deep) or PF120s (medium)
which are 4.94mm cell size and in my experience,
drawn by the bees perfectly the first time.
40Regressing
- To regress with natural comb, cull out empty
brood combs and let bees build what they want
(or give them 4.9mm foundation)? - After they have raised brood on that, repeat the
process until the core of the brood nest is 4.9mm
or below.
41Observations on natural cell size
- First there is no one size of cells nor one size
of worker brood cells in a hive. Hubers
observations on bigger bees from bigger cells was
directly because of this. The bees draw a
variety of cell sizes which create a variety of
bee sizes. Perhaps these different castes serve
the purposes of the hive with more diversity of
abilities.
42Observations on cell size
- The first generation of bees from a typical
hive (artificially enlarged bees) usually builds
about 5.1mm cells for worker brood. This varies
a lot, but typically this is the center of the
brood nest. Some bees will go smaller faster.
43Observations on Cell Size
- The next generation of bees will build worker
brood comb in the range of 4.9mm to 5.1mm with
some smaller and some larger. - The spacing, if left to these regressed bees is
typically 32mm or 1 ¼ in the center of the brood
nest
441 ¼ spacing agrees with Hubers Observations
- The leaf or book hive consists of twelve vertical
frames and their breadth fifteen lines (one
line 1/12 of an inch. 15 lines 1 ¼). It is
necessary that this last measure should be
accurate - François Huber 1806
45Comb Width by Cell SizeAccording to Baudoux
- Cell Size mm Comb width mm
- 5.555 22.60
- 5.375 22.20
- 5.210 21.80
- 5.060 21.40
- 4.925 21.00
- 4.805 20.60
- 4.700 20.20
- ABC XYZ of Bee Culture 1945 edition Pg 126
46Free Form Comb
47Spacing as close as 30mm in brood area
48Comb spacing
- Workers space comb based on their intended use.
- Workers perceive the intended use based on
spacing. - Worker brood area will be 1 ¼ (32mm)?
- Worker mixed with drone to will be 1 3/8 (35mm)?
- Honey storage 1 ½ (38mm) to 2
49So what are natural sized cells
- I have measured a lot of natural drawn combs. I
have seen worker brood in the range of 4.6mm to
5.1mm with most in the 4.7 to 4.8 ranges. I have
not seen any large areas of 5.4mm cells. So I
would have to say
50So what are natural sized cells
- Based on my measurements of natural worker brood
comb - There is nothing UNnatural about 4.9mm worker
cells. - 5.4mm worker cells are not the norm in a brood
nest. - Small cell has been adequate for me to have hives
that are stable against Varroa mites with no
treatments.
51How to get natural sized cells.
- Top bar hives. (foundationless combs)
- Make the bars 32mm (1 ¼) for the brood area
- Make the bars 38mm (1 ½) for the honey area
- Foundationless frames.
- Make a comb guide like Langstroth did (see
Langstroths Hive and the Honey-Bee - Also helpful to cut down end bars to 1 ¼
52How to get small cells
- Use 4.9mm foundation
- Use 4.9mm Honey Super Cell (fully drawn)?
- Use 4.95mm Mann Lake PF100 or PF120
53What Ive done to get natural comb
54What Ive done to get natural comb
- Top Bar Hives
- Foundationless Frames
55Free form comb
56What Ive done to get natural comb
- Top Bar Hives
- Foundationless Frames
- Free Form Comb
- Empty Frame Between Drawn Combs
57Small Cell Studies
- Positive
- http//www.funpecrp.com.br/gmr/year2003/vol1-2/gmr
0057_full_text.htm - http//europepmc.org/abstract/med/12917800
- http//www.apidologie.org/index.php?optioncom_art
icleaccessstandardItemid129url/articles/apid
o/pdf/2002/01/Martin.pdf - http//www.beesource.com/point-of-view/hans-otto-j
ohnsen/survival-of-a-commercial-beekeeper-in-norwa
y/ - http//scientificbeekeeping.com/trial-of-honeysupe
rcell-small-cell-combs/ - http//www.researchgate.net/publication/41700870_E
ffect_of_the_size_of_worker_brood_cells_of_African
ized_honey_bees_on_infestation_and_reproduction_of
_the_ectoparasitic_mite_Varroa_jacobsoni_Oud - http//www.ars.usda.gov/is/ar/archive/may97/honey.
pdf - http//www.apidologie.org/index.php?optioncom_art
icleaccessstandardItemid129url/articles/apid
o/pdf/2002/01/Martin.pdf - http//www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S
0304380001004409
58Small Cell Studies
- Negative
- http//www.researchgate.net/publication/225570786_
Small-cell_comb_does_not_control_Varroa_mites_in_c
olonies_of_honeybees_of_European_origin - http//link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10493-00
8-9221-3?no-accesstrue - http//www.beebehavior.com/Arxive/small_cell_comb_
varroa_mites.pdf - http//maxa.maf.govt.nz/sff/about-projects/search/
00-256/cell-size-impact-on-varroa.pdf - http//beeman.se/research/cell.htm
59Discussions on Issues With Small Cell Studies
- http//beeuntoothers.com/index.php/beekeeping/arti
cles/66-small-cell-studies - http//www.elgon.se/pdf-filer/Small_cell_test_desi
gns13c.pdf
60Further reading
- www.bushfarms.com/beessctheories.htm
- www.bushfarms.com/beesfoursimplesteps.htm
- www.bushfarms.com/beesnaturalcell.htm
- www.beesource.com/point-of-view/ed-dee-lusby
61Contact
- Michael Bush
- bees at bushfarms dot com
- www.bushfarms.com
- Book The Practical Beekeeper
62(No Transcript)
63Peer reviewed study that shows that peer reviewed
studies are almost always wrong.
- www.plosmedicine.org/article/info3Adoi2F10.1371
2Fjournal.pmed.0020124
64Abstract summary
- There is increasing concern that most current
published research findings are false. The
probability that a research claim is true may
depend on study power and bias, the number of
other studies on the same question, and,
importantly, the ratio of true to no
relationships among the relationships probed in
each scientific field. In this framework, a
research finding is less likely to be true when
the studies conducted in a field are smaller
when effect sizes are smaller when there is a
greater number and lesser preselection of tested
relationships where there is greater flexibility
in designs, definitions, outcomes, and analytical
modes when there is greater financial and other
interest and prejudice and when more teams are
involved in a scientific field in chase of
statistical significance. Simulations show that
for most study designs and settings, it is more
likely for a research claim to be false than
true. Moreover, for many current scientific
fields, claimed research findings may often be
simply accurate measures of the prevailing bias.
In this essay, I discuss the implications of
these problems for the conduct and interpretation
of research.
65- "Contradiction is not a sign of falsity, nor the
lack of contradiction a sign of truth." --Blaise
Pascal - "All models are wrong, but some are useful"
--George E.P. Box
66- For every expert, there is an equal and opposite
expert. -- Becker's Law
67Observations of Beekeepers vs Observations of
Scientists
- "It will be readily appreciated that in the
course of many years and daily contact with bees,
the professional bee-keeper will of necessity
gain a knowledge and insight into the mysterious
ways of the honeybee, usually denied to the
scientist in the laboratory and the amateur in
possession of a few colonies. Indeed, a limited
practical experience will inevitably lead to
views and conclusions, which are often completely
at variance to the findings of a wide practical
nature." --Beekeeping at Buckfast Abbey, Brother
Adam
68Quotes from conversation between Jennifer Berry,
Michael Bush, Dann Purvis and others concerning
Berrys small cell study, at HAS July, 2007 KY
State University, Frankfort, Kentucky
- If it's working for you, you should keep doing
it. - --Jennifer Berry
- The criteria is easy, it's not about counting
mites, it's about survival.--Dann Purvis
69Quote from Randy Oliver
- If you're not part of the genetic solution of
- breeding mite-tolerant bees, then you're part of
the problem
70Question
- If natural/small cell size will control Varroa,
why did all the feral bees die off?
Answer
The problem is that this question typically comes
with several assumptions.
71- The first assumption is that the feral bees have
all but died out. - I have not found this to be true. I see a lot of
feral bees and I see more every year.
72- The second assumption is that when some of the
feral bees did die, that they all died from
Varroa mites. - A lot of things happened to the bees in this
country including Tracheal mites, and viruses.
I'm sure some of the survival from some of this
is a matter of selection. The ones that couldn't
withstand them died.
73- The third assumption is that huge numbers of
mites hitchhiking in on robbers can't overwhelm a
hive no matter how well they handle Varroa. - Tons of crashing domestic hives were bound to
take a toll. Even if you have a fairly small and
stable local population of Varroa, a huge influx
from outside will overwhelm a hive.
74- The fourth assumption is that a recently escaped
swarm will build small cell. - They will build something in between. For many
years most of the feral bees were recent
escapees. The population of feral bees was kept
high by a lot of recent escapees and, in the
past, those escapees often survived. It's only
recently I've seen a shift in the population to
be the dark bees rather than the Italians that
look like they are recent. Large bees (bees from
5.4 mm foundation) build an in between sized
comb, usually around 5.1 mm. So these recently
swarmed domestic bees are not fully regressed and
often die in the first year or two.
75- The fifth assumption is that small cell
beekeepers don't believe there is also a genetic
component to the survival of bees with Varroa. - Obviously there are bees that are more or less
hygienic and more or less able to deal with many
pests and diseases. Whenever a new disease or
pest comes along the ferals have to survive them
without any help.
76- The sixth assumption is that the feral bees
suddenly died. - The bees have been diminishing for the last 50
years fairly steadily from pesticide misuse, loss
of habitat and forage, and more recently from bee
paranoia. People hear about AHB and kill any
swarm they see.
77Historic cell size measurements
- 1877 version of ABC of Beeculture, on page 147
says - "The best specimens of true worker-comb,
generally contain 5 cells within the space of an
inch, and therefore this measure has been adopted
for the comb foundation."
78- The 41st edition of ABC XYZ of Bee Culture on
Page 160 (under Cell Size) says - "The size of naturally constructed cells has been
a subject of beekeeper and scientific curiosity
since Swammerdam measured them in the 1600s.
Numerous subsequent reports from around the world
indicate that the diameter of naturally
constructed cells ranges from 4.8 to 5.4mm. Cell
diameter varies between geographic areas, but the
overall range has not changed from the 1600s to
the present time."
79- And further down on the same page
- "reported cell size for Africanized honey bees
averages 4.5-5.1mm."
80- Marla Spivak and Eric Erickson in "Do
measurements of worker cell size reliably
distinguish Africanized from European honey bees
(Apis mellifera L.)?" -- American Bee Journal v.
April 1992, p. 252-255 says
81- "...a continuous range of behaviors and cell size
measurements was noted between colonies
considered "strongly European" and "strongly
Africanized". "
82- "Due to the high degree of variation within and
among feral and managed populations of
Africanized bees, it is emphasized that the most
effective solution to the Africanized "problem",
in areas where Africanized bees have established
permanent populations, is to consistently select
for the most gentle and productive colonies among
the existing honey bee population"
83- From Identification and relative success of
Africanized and European honey bees in Costa
Rica. Spivak, M
84Bush's Law of Problems and Solutions
- Most problems are imaginary and most solutions
are illusions
85Small Cell Study Issues
Let's assume a short term study (which all of
them have been) during the drone rearing time of
the year (which all of them have been) and make
the assumption for the moment that Dee Lusby's
"psuedodrone" theory is true, meaning that with
large cell the Varroa often mistake large cell
workers for drone cells and therefore infest them
more. Then the Varroa in the large cell hives
during that time would be less successful
reproducing because they are in the wrong cells
(worker). The Varroa, during that time would be
more successful on small cell because they are in
the drone cells. But later in the year this may
shift dramatically when, first, the small cell
workers have not taken damage from the Varroa and
second, drone rearing drops off and the mites
have nowhere to go.