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WEEK 7THE THEORY OF RECOLLECTION, THE METHOD
OF HYPOTHESIS, AND THE THEORY OF
FORMS(Phaedo)(2-28-06)
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Agenda
  • Outline of Phaedo
  • The Theory of Recollection in Phaedo
  • The Method of Hypothesis in Phaedo
  • Does Plato have a Theory of Forms?
  • Is Plato committed to the existence of Forms?
  • What is it to be so committed?
  • Evidence for a Theory of Forms
  • Passages which refer to Forms
  • Arguments for Forms
  • Motivations for Forms
  • Arguments for Forms
  • Motivations for Forms

3
Cast of Characters 59b-c
  • Phaedo
  • Apollodorus - narrator of Symposium
  • Critobulus
  • Critobulus father - Crito - Apology 33d-e
    Diogenes Laertius 2.121
  • Hermogenes - son of Hipponicus and brother of
    Callia (Ap. 20a) - in Cratylus
  • Epigenes - in list at Apology 33d-e
  • Aeschines - Socratic fragments -
  • Antisthenes - reputed founder of the Cynic school
    - Socratic fragments
  • Ctesippus - in Lysis Euthydemus
  • Menexenus - in Lysis Menexenus
  • Simmias of Thebes (a center for Pytahgoreanism) -
    in Crito
  • Cebes of Thebes - in Crito
  • Phaedondes - Xenophon Memorabilia 1.2.48
  • Euclides of Megara - founder of the Megarian
    school - in Theaetetus
  • Terpsion of Megara - in Theaetetus
  • Aristippus (grandson was founder of Cyreniac),
    Cleombrotus, and Plato are mentioned as absent

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Outline of Phaedo
  • Prologue (57a-59c)
  • Socrates in prison (59c-69e)
  • Setting of scene (59c-61b)
  • Tension (61b-63e)
  • No one ought to commit suicide
  • Philosophers would be better off dead
  • Philosophers should willingly die (64a-69e)
  • Three Arguments that Wisdom is better acquired
    when soul is separated from body
  • Bodily pleasures interfere with the pursuit of
    truth and wisdom (64d-65a)
  • Perception is inaccurate/only reasoning
    (logizesthai) is accurate (65b-d)
  • Forms, the objects of wisdom, cannot be viewed by
    perception, but only by thought (dianoia) or
    reasoning (logismos) (65d-66a)

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  • The Argument(s) for the immortality of the soul
  • The Cyclical Argument (70c-72d)
  • The Recollection Argument (72c-77a)
  • The Conditional If TR -gt immortality (73e3-73a6)
  • First Argument for antecedent (73a7-b2)
  • Second Argument for antecedent (73b3-76d)
  • Principles concerning recollection (73b3-74a8)
  • The Equality Argument (74b7-c5)
  • The Recollection Argument (74c7-75d5)
  • Responses to objections (75d6-76d)
  • Recapitulation (76d-77a)

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  • The Survival Objection (77b-c)
  • The Affinity Argument (78b-84b)
  • Simmias Cebes Objections (85e-88b)
  • The soul as harmony (85c-86e)
  • The soul as a cloak (86e-88b)
  • Arguments Against Simmias/Harmony (91e-95a)
  • Argument Against Cebes/Cloak (95a-107b)
  • Introduction (95a-96a)
  • Socrates Philosophical Biography (96a-102b)
  • Natural Science Phase (96a-97b)
  • Anaxagoras Phase (97b-99d)
  • Second Voyage/Method of Hypothesis (99d-102b)
  • X is F because x participates in F-ness

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  • The Final Argument (102c-107b)
  • Simmias/Socrates/Cebes case (102b-103a)
  • Objection and reply (103a-c)
  • The Clever view (103c-105c)
  • X is F because x participates in G-ness and
    G-ness entails F-ness
  • The immortality argument (105c-107b)
  • The Myth (107c-115a)
  • The Death Scene (115a-118a)

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General Structure of the Argument from 64a-69e
  • 1. Death is separation of the soul from the body
  • 2. Philosophers seek wisdom and truth
  • 3. Wisdom and truth can only (or best) be gained
    when the soul is separated from the body
  • 4. So, philosophers seek separation of the soul
    from the body
  • 5. So, philosophers seek death
  • 6. So, philosophers should willingly die

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Recollection in the Phaedo
  • Second Argument for the Immortality of Soul
    (72e-78b) If TR -gt Soul is immortal
  • Furthermore, Socrates, Cebes rejoined, such is
    also the case if that theory (logos) is true that
    you are accustomed to mention frequently, that
    for us learning (mathesis) is no other than
    recollection (anamnesis) Phaedo 71e3-6 Grube
    trans.
  • Arguments for TR
  • First Argument the slave boy example (73a-b)
  • Second Argument for TR (73b-76d)

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Second Argument
  • if anyone is to be reminded of a thing, he must
    have known that thing at some time previously.
    73c1-2 Gallop trans.
  • x is reminded by y of z at t ? x knew z before t.
  • if someone, a on seeing a thing, or hearing
    it, or getting any other sense-perception of it,
    b not only recognizes that thing, but also
    thinks of something else, c which is the object
    not of the same knowledge but of another, dont
    we then rightly say that hes been reminded of
    the object of which he has got the thought?
    73c6-d1 Gallop trans.
  • a A perceives x, b A thinks of/knows y, and
    c knowledge of x ? knowledge of y ? A
    recollected y
  • There is equality (74a9-b1)
  • We know what it is (74b2-3)
  • We got this knowledge of equality by perceiving
    equal things (74b4-7) 2a
  • Equality is distinct from equal things
    (74b8-74c6) 2c
  • We learn equality by perceiving equal things by
    noticing the latters deficiency to the former
    (74c7-75a10) 2b
  • So, we knew equality before noticing this
    deficiency (75b1-c6)
  • Generalized to all forms (75c7-d5)
  • But, we have not always had this knowledge
    (75d6-76d6)
  • So, TR lt-gt Forms (76d7-77a5)

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Differences between Meno Phaedo
  • Meno robust knowledge acquisition
  • Phaedo concept formation ?
  • Meno mathematics
  • Phaedo no mathematics
  • Meno no stress on sense perception
  • Phaedo sense perception
  • Meno introduced to meet a problem
  • Phaedo introduced to prove immortaltiy
  • No commitment to Forms in Meno

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Hypothesis in Phaedo
  • The problem
  • It is no unimportant problem that you raise,
    Cebes, for it requires a thorough investigation
    of the cause of generation and destruction. I
    will, if you wish, give you an account of my
    experience in theses matters. Then if something
    I say seems useful to you, make use of it to
    persuade us of your position. 95e9-96a4 Grube
    trans.
  • The method of the natural scientists 96a-97b
  • I do not any longer persuade myself that I know
    why a unit or anything else comes to be, or
    perishes or exists by the old method of
    investigation, and I do not accept it, but I have
    a confused method of my own. 97b3-7 Grube
    trans.
  • The method of Anaxagoras 97b-99c
  • I would gladly become the disciple of any man who
    taught the workings of that kind of cause.
    However, since I was deprived and could neither
    discover it myself nor learn it from another, ...
    99c6-9 Grube trans.
  • The method of hypothesis 99c-101e
  • ... do you wish me to give you an explanation of
    how, as a second best, I busied myself with the
    search for the cause, Cebes? 99c9-d2 Grube
    trans.

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The Method of Natural Science
  • When Socrates was young he was keen on the
    wisdom (sophia) called natural (peri phuseos
    historian) he thought it would be splendid to
    know (eidenai) answers to questions like the
    following (96a6-c1)
  • 1. Do living things develop whenever the hot and
    the cold give rise to putrefaction?
  • 2. Is it blood, air or fire by which we think?
  • 3. Or is it none of these, but is it that the
    brain provides the senses, from which memory and
    doxa become?
  • 4. Does knowledge come to be in this way from
    memory and doxa when they acquire stability
    (heremein)?
  • 5. How these things are destroyed?

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Socrates discovers, however, that he has no gift
for this sort of inquiry
  • This investigation made me quite blind even to
    those things which I and others thought that I
    clearly knew before, so that I unlearned what I
    thought I knew before, about many other things,
    but specifically about how men grew. 96c3-7
    Grube trans.

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  • Three sets of examples of things that Socrates
    thought he could explain but no longer does
    (96c7-97b3)
  • a. the growth of a human being (96c7-d6)
  • b. one things being larger than another
    (96d8-e4)
  • c. one things becoming two (96e6-97b3)
  • His reason for his thinking that he can no longer
    explain a things becoming two is apparently that
    it violates the following principle
  • (Causal Law) xs opposite must not be an aitia
    for anything being F (97a7-b3, cf. 101b9-c2, c7-8)

Conclusion (97b3-7)
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Conclusion (97b3-7)
  • And I no longer believe that I know (epistamai)
    by this method (methodou) even how one is
    generated or, in a word, how anything is
    generated or is destroyed or exists, and I no
    longer admit this method, but have another
    confused way of my own. 97b3-7 Lamb trans.

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What Socrates had hoped to learn from Anaxagoras
(97b7-98b6)
  • If then one wished to know the cause of each
    thing, why it comes to be, or perishes or exists,
    one had to find what was the best way for it to
    be, or be acted upon, or to act. On these
    premises then it befitted a man to investigate
    only, about this and other things, what is best.
    The same man must inevitably also know what is
    worse, for that is part of the same knowledge
    (epistemen). 97c6-d5 Grube trans.

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  • As I reflected on this subject I was glad to
    think that I had found in Anaxagoras a teacher
    (didaskalon) about the cause of things after my
    own heart, and that he would tell me, first,
    whether the earth is flat or round, and then
    would explain why it is so of necessity
    (anagken), saying which is better (ameinon), and
    that it was better to be so. If he said it was
    in the middle of the universe, he would go on to
    show that it was better for it to be in the
    middle, and if he showed me those things I should
    be prepared never to desire any other kind of
    cause. 97d7-98a2 Grube trans.

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  • Once he had given the best for each as the cause
    for each and the general cause of all, I thought
    he would go on to explain the common good for
    all, and I would not have exchanged my hopes for
    a fortune. I eagerly acquired his books and read
    them as quickly as I could in order to know the
    best and the worst as soon as possible. (98b1-6
    Grube trans.

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Socrates Disappointment (98b7-c8)
  • Imagine not being able to distinguish the real
    cause from that without which the cause would not
    be able to act as a cause. It is what the
    majority appear to do, like people groping in the
    dark they call it a cause, thus giving it a name
    that does not belong to it. 99b2-6 Grube trans.

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Conclusion
  • I would gladly become the disciple of any man who
    taught the workings of that kind of cause.
    However, since I was deprived and could neither
    discover it myself (autos heurein) nor learn it
    from another (par allou mathein), ... 99c6-9
    Grube trans.
  • ... do you wish me to give you an explanation of
    how, as a second best (deuteron ploun), I busied
    myself with the search for the cause, Cebes?
    99c9-d3 Grube trans.

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Metaphor of the Sun
  • After this, he said, when I had wearied of
    investigation things (ta onta skopein), I thought
    that I must be careful to avoid the experience of
    those who watch an eclipse of the sun, for some
    of them ruin their eyes unless they watch its
    reflection in water or some such material. A
    similar thought crossed my mind, and I feared
    that my soul would be altogether blinded if I
    looked at things (ta pragmata) with my eyes and
    tried to grasp them with each of my senses. So I
    though I must take refuge in discussions (logou)
    and investigate the truth of things by means of
    words (skopein ton onton ten aletheian).
    However, perhaps this analogy is inadequate, for
    I certainly do not admit that one who
    investigates things by means of words is dealing
    with images any more than one who looks at facts.
    Phaedo 99d4-100a3 Grube trans.

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General Description
  • However, I started in this manner taking as my
    hypothesis (hupothemenos) in each case the theory
    that seemed to me the most compelling, I would
    consider as true, about cause and everything
    else, whatever agreed (sumphonein) with this, and
    as untrue whatever did not so agree. But I want
    to put my meaning more clearly for I do not think
    that you understand me now. 100a3-100a8 Grube
    trans.

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Application
  • This, he said, is what I mean. It is nothing
    new, but what I have never stopped talking about,
    both elsewhere and in the earlier par of our
    conversation. I am going to try to show you the
    kind of cause with which I have concerned myself.
    I turn back to those oft-mentioned things and
    proceed from them. I assume the existence of a
    Beautiful, itself by itself, of a Good and a
    Great and all the rest. If you grant me these
    and agree that they exist, I hope to show you the
    cause as a result, and so to find the soul to be
    immortal.
  • Take it that I grant you this, said Cebes, and
    hasten to your conclusion. Phaedo 100b1-c2
    Grube trans.

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Phaedo 99d4-100a8
  • After this, he said, when I had wearied of
    investigation things, I thought that I must be
    careful to avoid the experience of those who
    watch an eclipse of the sun, for some of them
    ruin their eyes unless they watch its reflection
    in water or some such material. A similar
    thought crossed my mind, and I feared that my
    soul would be altogether blinded if I looked at
    things with my eyes and tried to grasp them with
    each of my senses. So I thought I must take
    refuge in discussions and investigate the truth
    of things by means of words. However, perhaps
    this analogy is inadequate, for I certainly do
    not admit that one who investigates things by
    means of words is dealing with images any more
    than one who looks at facts. However, I started
    in this manner taking as my hypothesis in each
    case the theory that seemed to me the most
    compelling, I would consider as true, about cause
    and everything else, whatever agreed with this,
    and as untrue whatever did not so agree. But I
    want to put my meaning more clearly for I do not
    think that you understand me now. 99d4100a8
    Grube trans

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Phaedo 101d1-e3
  • But you , ..., would cling to the safety of your
    own hypothesis and give that answer. If someone
    then attacked your hypothesis itself, you would
    ignore him and would not answer until you had
    examined whether the consequences that follow
    from it agree with one another or contradict one
    another. And when you must give an account of
    your hypothesis itself you will proceed in the
    same way you will assume another hypothesis,
    the one which seems to you best of the higher
    ones until you come to something acceptable, but
    you will not jumble the two as the debaters do by
    discussing the hypothesis and its consequences at
    the same time, if you wish to discover the truth.
    Grube trans.

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Examination/Confirmation of Equivalent Question
  • First one identifies a further hypothesis from
    which the original hypothesis can be derived and
    shows how this derivation goes until one reaches
    something adequate and upward path
  • Second one examines the consequences of the
    hypothesis to be whether they are consistent with
    other background beliefs or information
    concerning the topic under discussion downward
    path.

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Questions
  • What are the alternative methods?
  • Is the method of hypthesis second best?
  • To the alternatives mentioned?
  • To some other alternative?
  • What is the hypothesis?
  • Downward path
  • Comes first in Phaedo
  • Agree with
  • Consistent with
  • Entailed by
  • Upward path
  • What makes something adequate?

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Does Plato Have a Theory of Forms
  • Annas 1981
  • Is Plato committed to Forms?
  • What is it to be so committed?
  • Aristotle
  • Eidos/idea
  • Genos
  • Ousia

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Metaphysics XIII.4 1078b17-1079a4
  • The theory of Forms (peri ton eidon doxa)
    occurred to those who enunciated it because they
    were convinced as to the true nature of reality
    by the doctrine of Heraclitus, that all sensible
    things are always in a state of flux so that if
    there is to be any knowledge or thought about
    anything, there must be certain other entities,
    besides sensible ones, which persist. For there
    can be no knowledge of that which is in flux. Now
    Socrates devoted his attention to the moral
    virtues, and was the first to seek a general
    definition of these 20 () and he naturally
    inquired into the essence of things for he was
    trying to reason logically, and the
    starting-point of all logical reasoning is the
    essence (to ti estin). There are two
    innovations which, may fairly be ascribed to
    Socrates inductive reasoning and general
    definition. Both of these are associated with the
    starting-point of scientific knowledge. But
    whereas Socrates regarded neither universals nor
    definitions as existing in separation, the
    Idealists gave them a separate existence, and to
    these universals and definitions of existing
    things they gave the name of Ideas.

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Metaphysics 1086a30-b14
  • but as for those who speak of the Ideas, we
    can observe at the same time their way of
    thinking and the difficulties which befall them.
    For they not only treat the Ideas as universal
    substances, but also as separable and particular.
    The reason why those who hold substances to be
    universal combined these two views was that they
    did not identify substances with sensible things.
    They considered that the particulars in the
    sensible world are in a state of flux, and that
    none of them persists, but that the universal
    exists besides them and is something distinct
    from them. This theory, as we have said in an
    earlier passage, was initiated by Socrates as a
    result of his definitions, but he did not
    separate universals from particulars and he was
    right in not separating them. This is evident
    from the facts for without the universal we
    cannot acquire knowledge, and the separation of
    the universal is the cause of the difficulties
    which we find in the Ideal theory. Others,
    regarding it as necessary, if there are to be any
    substances besides those which are sensible and
    transitory, that they should be separable, and
    having no other substances, assigned separate
    existence to those which are universally
    predicated thus it followed that universals and
    particulars are practically the same kind of
    thing.

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Metaphysics 987a29-b13
  • The philosophies described above were succeeded
    by the system of Plato, which in most respects
    accorded with them, but contained also certain
    peculiar features distinct from the philosophy of
    the Italians. In his youth Plato first became
    acquainted with Cratylus and the Heraclitean
    doctrines -- that the whole sensible world is
    always in a state of flux, and that there is no
    scientific knowledge of it -- and in after years
    he still held these opinions. And when Socrates,
    disregarding the physical universe and confining
    his study to moral questions, sought in this
    sphere for the universal and was the first to
    concentrate upon definition, Plato followed him
    and assumed that the problem of definition is
    concerned not with any sensible thing but with
    entities of another kind for the reason that
    there can be no general definition of sensible
    things which are always changing. These entities
    he called Ideas, and held that all sensible
    things are named after them sensible and in
    virtue of their relation to them for the
    plurality of things which bear the same name as
    the Forms exist by participation in them. (With
    regard to the participation, it was only the
    term that he changed for whereas the
    Pythagoreans say that things exist by imitation
    of numbers, Plato says that they exist by
    participation -- merely a change of term. As to
    what this participation or imitation may be,
    they left this an open question.)

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Evidence
  • Passages which presuppose the theory of Forms
  • Arguments for the theory of Forms
  • Motivations for the theory of Forms (Cherniss)

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Arguments for the Theory of Forms
  • Phaedo 74a9-c5 The Equality Argument
  • Republic V.475d-476b The Argument from
    Opposites
  • Republic X.596a5-b4 The One Over Many Argument
  • Timaeus 51d3-e6 The Argument from Knowledge

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The One Over Many Argument
  • Do you want us to begin our examination, then,
    by adopting our usual procedure? As you know, we
    customarily hypothesize a single form in
    connection with each of the many things to which
    we apply the same name. Or don't you understand?
  • I do.
  • Then let's now take any of the manys you like.
    For example, there are many beds and tables.
  • Of course.
  • But there are only two forms of such furniture,
    one of the bed and one of the table. (Republic
    X.596a5-b4 Grube/Reeve trans.

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The Argument from Knowledge
  • If understanding and true opinion are distinct,
    then these "by themselves" things definitely
    exist-these Forms, the objects not of our sense
    perception, but of our understanding only. But
    if-as some people think-true opinion does not
    differ in any way from understanding, then all
    the things we perceive through our bodily senses
    must be assumed to be the most stable things
    there are. But we do have to speak of
    understanding and true opinion as distinct, of
    course, because we can come to have one without
    the other, and the one is not like the other. It
    is through instruction that we come to have
    understanding, and through persuasion that we
    come to have true belief. Understanding always
    involves a true account while true belief lacks
    any account. And while understanding remains
    unmoved by persuasion, true belief gives in to
    persuasion. And of true belief, it must be said,
    all men have a share, but of understanding, only
    the gods and a small group of people do.
    (Timaeus 51d3-e6 Zeyl trans.)

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Motivations for the Theory of Forms
  • TF accounts for objectivity in ethics (Cherniss)
  • TF accounts for the distinction between knowledge
    and sensation/opinion (Cherniss)
  • TF accounts for the instability in the phenomena
    (Cherniss)
  • TF accounts for how words get their meaning
    (White)

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Motivations from the Elenctic Dialogues
  • TF may provide substance to Socratic Eudaemonism
  • TF may account for the possibility of inquiry
    (and knowledge in general)
  • TF may provide a justification for the Socratic
    concern with definition
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