Title: WEEK
1WEEK 7THE THEORY OF RECOLLECTION, THE METHOD
OF HYPOTHESIS, AND THE THEORY OF
FORMS(Phaedo)(2-28-06)
2Agenda
- Outline of Phaedo
- The Theory of Recollection in Phaedo
- The Method of Hypothesis in Phaedo
- Does Plato have a Theory of Forms?
- Is Plato committed to the existence of Forms?
- What is it to be so committed?
- Evidence for a Theory of Forms
- Passages which refer to Forms
- Arguments for Forms
- Motivations for Forms
- Arguments for Forms
- Motivations for Forms
3Cast of Characters 59b-c
- Phaedo
- Apollodorus - narrator of Symposium
- Critobulus
- Critobulus father - Crito - Apology 33d-e
Diogenes Laertius 2.121 - Hermogenes - son of Hipponicus and brother of
Callia (Ap. 20a) - in Cratylus - Epigenes - in list at Apology 33d-e
- Aeschines - Socratic fragments -
- Antisthenes - reputed founder of the Cynic school
- Socratic fragments - Ctesippus - in Lysis Euthydemus
- Menexenus - in Lysis Menexenus
- Simmias of Thebes (a center for Pytahgoreanism) -
in Crito - Cebes of Thebes - in Crito
- Phaedondes - Xenophon Memorabilia 1.2.48
- Euclides of Megara - founder of the Megarian
school - in Theaetetus - Terpsion of Megara - in Theaetetus
- Aristippus (grandson was founder of Cyreniac),
Cleombrotus, and Plato are mentioned as absent
4Outline of Phaedo
- Prologue (57a-59c)
- Socrates in prison (59c-69e)
- Setting of scene (59c-61b)
- Tension (61b-63e)
- No one ought to commit suicide
- Philosophers would be better off dead
- Philosophers should willingly die (64a-69e)
- Three Arguments that Wisdom is better acquired
when soul is separated from body - Bodily pleasures interfere with the pursuit of
truth and wisdom (64d-65a) - Perception is inaccurate/only reasoning
(logizesthai) is accurate (65b-d) - Forms, the objects of wisdom, cannot be viewed by
perception, but only by thought (dianoia) or
reasoning (logismos) (65d-66a)
5- The Argument(s) for the immortality of the soul
- The Cyclical Argument (70c-72d)
- The Recollection Argument (72c-77a)
- The Conditional If TR -gt immortality (73e3-73a6)
- First Argument for antecedent (73a7-b2)
- Second Argument for antecedent (73b3-76d)
- Principles concerning recollection (73b3-74a8)
- The Equality Argument (74b7-c5)
- The Recollection Argument (74c7-75d5)
- Responses to objections (75d6-76d)
- Recapitulation (76d-77a)
6- The Survival Objection (77b-c)
- The Affinity Argument (78b-84b)
- Simmias Cebes Objections (85e-88b)
- The soul as harmony (85c-86e)
- The soul as a cloak (86e-88b)
- Arguments Against Simmias/Harmony (91e-95a)
- Argument Against Cebes/Cloak (95a-107b)
- Introduction (95a-96a)
- Socrates Philosophical Biography (96a-102b)
- Natural Science Phase (96a-97b)
- Anaxagoras Phase (97b-99d)
- Second Voyage/Method of Hypothesis (99d-102b)
- X is F because x participates in F-ness
7- The Final Argument (102c-107b)
- Simmias/Socrates/Cebes case (102b-103a)
- Objection and reply (103a-c)
- The Clever view (103c-105c)
- X is F because x participates in G-ness and
G-ness entails F-ness - The immortality argument (105c-107b)
- The Myth (107c-115a)
- The Death Scene (115a-118a)
8General Structure of the Argument from 64a-69e
- 1. Death is separation of the soul from the body
- 2. Philosophers seek wisdom and truth
- 3. Wisdom and truth can only (or best) be gained
when the soul is separated from the body - 4. So, philosophers seek separation of the soul
from the body - 5. So, philosophers seek death
- 6. So, philosophers should willingly die
9Recollection in the Phaedo
- Second Argument for the Immortality of Soul
(72e-78b) If TR -gt Soul is immortal - Furthermore, Socrates, Cebes rejoined, such is
also the case if that theory (logos) is true that
you are accustomed to mention frequently, that
for us learning (mathesis) is no other than
recollection (anamnesis) Phaedo 71e3-6 Grube
trans. - Arguments for TR
- First Argument the slave boy example (73a-b)
- Second Argument for TR (73b-76d)
10Second Argument
- if anyone is to be reminded of a thing, he must
have known that thing at some time previously.
73c1-2 Gallop trans. - x is reminded by y of z at t ? x knew z before t.
- if someone, a on seeing a thing, or hearing
it, or getting any other sense-perception of it,
b not only recognizes that thing, but also
thinks of something else, c which is the object
not of the same knowledge but of another, dont
we then rightly say that hes been reminded of
the object of which he has got the thought?
73c6-d1 Gallop trans. - a A perceives x, b A thinks of/knows y, and
c knowledge of x ? knowledge of y ? A
recollected y - There is equality (74a9-b1)
- We know what it is (74b2-3)
- We got this knowledge of equality by perceiving
equal things (74b4-7) 2a - Equality is distinct from equal things
(74b8-74c6) 2c - We learn equality by perceiving equal things by
noticing the latters deficiency to the former
(74c7-75a10) 2b - So, we knew equality before noticing this
deficiency (75b1-c6) - Generalized to all forms (75c7-d5)
- But, we have not always had this knowledge
(75d6-76d6) - So, TR lt-gt Forms (76d7-77a5)
11Differences between Meno Phaedo
- Meno robust knowledge acquisition
- Phaedo concept formation ?
- Meno mathematics
- Phaedo no mathematics
- Meno no stress on sense perception
- Phaedo sense perception
- Meno introduced to meet a problem
- Phaedo introduced to prove immortaltiy
- No commitment to Forms in Meno
12Hypothesis in Phaedo
- The problem
- It is no unimportant problem that you raise,
Cebes, for it requires a thorough investigation
of the cause of generation and destruction. I
will, if you wish, give you an account of my
experience in theses matters. Then if something
I say seems useful to you, make use of it to
persuade us of your position. 95e9-96a4 Grube
trans. - The method of the natural scientists 96a-97b
- I do not any longer persuade myself that I know
why a unit or anything else comes to be, or
perishes or exists by the old method of
investigation, and I do not accept it, but I have
a confused method of my own. 97b3-7 Grube
trans. - The method of Anaxagoras 97b-99c
- I would gladly become the disciple of any man who
taught the workings of that kind of cause.
However, since I was deprived and could neither
discover it myself nor learn it from another, ...
99c6-9 Grube trans. - The method of hypothesis 99c-101e
- ... do you wish me to give you an explanation of
how, as a second best, I busied myself with the
search for the cause, Cebes? 99c9-d2 Grube
trans.
13The Method of Natural Science
- When Socrates was young he was keen on the
wisdom (sophia) called natural (peri phuseos
historian) he thought it would be splendid to
know (eidenai) answers to questions like the
following (96a6-c1) - 1. Do living things develop whenever the hot and
the cold give rise to putrefaction? - 2. Is it blood, air or fire by which we think?
- 3. Or is it none of these, but is it that the
brain provides the senses, from which memory and
doxa become? - 4. Does knowledge come to be in this way from
memory and doxa when they acquire stability
(heremein)? - 5. How these things are destroyed?
14Socrates discovers, however, that he has no gift
for this sort of inquiry
-
- This investigation made me quite blind even to
those things which I and others thought that I
clearly knew before, so that I unlearned what I
thought I knew before, about many other things,
but specifically about how men grew. 96c3-7
Grube trans.
15- Three sets of examples of things that Socrates
thought he could explain but no longer does
(96c7-97b3) - a. the growth of a human being (96c7-d6)
- b. one things being larger than another
(96d8-e4) - c. one things becoming two (96e6-97b3)
- His reason for his thinking that he can no longer
explain a things becoming two is apparently that
it violates the following principle - (Causal Law) xs opposite must not be an aitia
for anything being F (97a7-b3, cf. 101b9-c2, c7-8)
Conclusion (97b3-7)
16Conclusion (97b3-7)
- And I no longer believe that I know (epistamai)
by this method (methodou) even how one is
generated or, in a word, how anything is
generated or is destroyed or exists, and I no
longer admit this method, but have another
confused way of my own. 97b3-7 Lamb trans.
17What Socrates had hoped to learn from Anaxagoras
(97b7-98b6)
- If then one wished to know the cause of each
thing, why it comes to be, or perishes or exists,
one had to find what was the best way for it to
be, or be acted upon, or to act. On these
premises then it befitted a man to investigate
only, about this and other things, what is best.
The same man must inevitably also know what is
worse, for that is part of the same knowledge
(epistemen). 97c6-d5 Grube trans.
18- As I reflected on this subject I was glad to
think that I had found in Anaxagoras a teacher
(didaskalon) about the cause of things after my
own heart, and that he would tell me, first,
whether the earth is flat or round, and then
would explain why it is so of necessity
(anagken), saying which is better (ameinon), and
that it was better to be so. If he said it was
in the middle of the universe, he would go on to
show that it was better for it to be in the
middle, and if he showed me those things I should
be prepared never to desire any other kind of
cause. 97d7-98a2 Grube trans.
19- Once he had given the best for each as the cause
for each and the general cause of all, I thought
he would go on to explain the common good for
all, and I would not have exchanged my hopes for
a fortune. I eagerly acquired his books and read
them as quickly as I could in order to know the
best and the worst as soon as possible. (98b1-6
Grube trans.
20Socrates Disappointment (98b7-c8)
- Imagine not being able to distinguish the real
cause from that without which the cause would not
be able to act as a cause. It is what the
majority appear to do, like people groping in the
dark they call it a cause, thus giving it a name
that does not belong to it. 99b2-6 Grube trans.
21Conclusion
- I would gladly become the disciple of any man who
taught the workings of that kind of cause.
However, since I was deprived and could neither
discover it myself (autos heurein) nor learn it
from another (par allou mathein), ... 99c6-9
Grube trans. - ... do you wish me to give you an explanation of
how, as a second best (deuteron ploun), I busied
myself with the search for the cause, Cebes?
99c9-d3 Grube trans.
22Metaphor of the Sun
- After this, he said, when I had wearied of
investigation things (ta onta skopein), I thought
that I must be careful to avoid the experience of
those who watch an eclipse of the sun, for some
of them ruin their eyes unless they watch its
reflection in water or some such material. A
similar thought crossed my mind, and I feared
that my soul would be altogether blinded if I
looked at things (ta pragmata) with my eyes and
tried to grasp them with each of my senses. So I
though I must take refuge in discussions (logou)
and investigate the truth of things by means of
words (skopein ton onton ten aletheian).
However, perhaps this analogy is inadequate, for
I certainly do not admit that one who
investigates things by means of words is dealing
with images any more than one who looks at facts.
Phaedo 99d4-100a3 Grube trans.
23General Description
- However, I started in this manner taking as my
hypothesis (hupothemenos) in each case the theory
that seemed to me the most compelling, I would
consider as true, about cause and everything
else, whatever agreed (sumphonein) with this, and
as untrue whatever did not so agree. But I want
to put my meaning more clearly for I do not think
that you understand me now. 100a3-100a8 Grube
trans.
24Application
- This, he said, is what I mean. It is nothing
new, but what I have never stopped talking about,
both elsewhere and in the earlier par of our
conversation. I am going to try to show you the
kind of cause with which I have concerned myself.
I turn back to those oft-mentioned things and
proceed from them. I assume the existence of a
Beautiful, itself by itself, of a Good and a
Great and all the rest. If you grant me these
and agree that they exist, I hope to show you the
cause as a result, and so to find the soul to be
immortal. - Take it that I grant you this, said Cebes, and
hasten to your conclusion. Phaedo 100b1-c2
Grube trans.
25Phaedo 99d4-100a8
- After this, he said, when I had wearied of
investigation things, I thought that I must be
careful to avoid the experience of those who
watch an eclipse of the sun, for some of them
ruin their eyes unless they watch its reflection
in water or some such material. A similar
thought crossed my mind, and I feared that my
soul would be altogether blinded if I looked at
things with my eyes and tried to grasp them with
each of my senses. So I thought I must take
refuge in discussions and investigate the truth
of things by means of words. However, perhaps
this analogy is inadequate, for I certainly do
not admit that one who investigates things by
means of words is dealing with images any more
than one who looks at facts. However, I started
in this manner taking as my hypothesis in each
case the theory that seemed to me the most
compelling, I would consider as true, about cause
and everything else, whatever agreed with this,
and as untrue whatever did not so agree. But I
want to put my meaning more clearly for I do not
think that you understand me now. 99d4100a8
Grube trans
26Phaedo 101d1-e3
- But you , ..., would cling to the safety of your
own hypothesis and give that answer. If someone
then attacked your hypothesis itself, you would
ignore him and would not answer until you had
examined whether the consequences that follow
from it agree with one another or contradict one
another. And when you must give an account of
your hypothesis itself you will proceed in the
same way you will assume another hypothesis,
the one which seems to you best of the higher
ones until you come to something acceptable, but
you will not jumble the two as the debaters do by
discussing the hypothesis and its consequences at
the same time, if you wish to discover the truth.
Grube trans.
27Examination/Confirmation of Equivalent Question
- First one identifies a further hypothesis from
which the original hypothesis can be derived and
shows how this derivation goes until one reaches
something adequate and upward path - Second one examines the consequences of the
hypothesis to be whether they are consistent with
other background beliefs or information
concerning the topic under discussion downward
path.
28Questions
- What are the alternative methods?
- Is the method of hypthesis second best?
- To the alternatives mentioned?
- To some other alternative?
- What is the hypothesis?
- Downward path
- Comes first in Phaedo
- Agree with
- Consistent with
- Entailed by
- Upward path
- What makes something adequate?
29Does Plato Have a Theory of Forms
- Annas 1981
- Is Plato committed to Forms?
- What is it to be so committed?
- Aristotle
- Eidos/idea
- Genos
- Ousia
30Metaphysics XIII.4 1078b17-1079a4
- The theory of Forms (peri ton eidon doxa)
occurred to those who enunciated it because they
were convinced as to the true nature of reality
by the doctrine of Heraclitus, that all sensible
things are always in a state of flux so that if
there is to be any knowledge or thought about
anything, there must be certain other entities,
besides sensible ones, which persist. For there
can be no knowledge of that which is in flux. Now
Socrates devoted his attention to the moral
virtues, and was the first to seek a general
definition of these 20 () and he naturally
inquired into the essence of things for he was
trying to reason logically, and the
starting-point of all logical reasoning is the
essence (to ti estin). There are two
innovations which, may fairly be ascribed to
Socrates inductive reasoning and general
definition. Both of these are associated with the
starting-point of scientific knowledge. But
whereas Socrates regarded neither universals nor
definitions as existing in separation, the
Idealists gave them a separate existence, and to
these universals and definitions of existing
things they gave the name of Ideas.
31Metaphysics 1086a30-b14
- but as for those who speak of the Ideas, we
can observe at the same time their way of
thinking and the difficulties which befall them.
For they not only treat the Ideas as universal
substances, but also as separable and particular.
The reason why those who hold substances to be
universal combined these two views was that they
did not identify substances with sensible things.
They considered that the particulars in the
sensible world are in a state of flux, and that
none of them persists, but that the universal
exists besides them and is something distinct
from them. This theory, as we have said in an
earlier passage, was initiated by Socrates as a
result of his definitions, but he did not
separate universals from particulars and he was
right in not separating them. This is evident
from the facts for without the universal we
cannot acquire knowledge, and the separation of
the universal is the cause of the difficulties
which we find in the Ideal theory. Others,
regarding it as necessary, if there are to be any
substances besides those which are sensible and
transitory, that they should be separable, and
having no other substances, assigned separate
existence to those which are universally
predicated thus it followed that universals and
particulars are practically the same kind of
thing.
32Metaphysics 987a29-b13
- The philosophies described above were succeeded
by the system of Plato, which in most respects
accorded with them, but contained also certain
peculiar features distinct from the philosophy of
the Italians. In his youth Plato first became
acquainted with Cratylus and the Heraclitean
doctrines -- that the whole sensible world is
always in a state of flux, and that there is no
scientific knowledge of it -- and in after years
he still held these opinions. And when Socrates,
disregarding the physical universe and confining
his study to moral questions, sought in this
sphere for the universal and was the first to
concentrate upon definition, Plato followed him
and assumed that the problem of definition is
concerned not with any sensible thing but with
entities of another kind for the reason that
there can be no general definition of sensible
things which are always changing. These entities
he called Ideas, and held that all sensible
things are named after them sensible and in
virtue of their relation to them for the
plurality of things which bear the same name as
the Forms exist by participation in them. (With
regard to the participation, it was only the
term that he changed for whereas the
Pythagoreans say that things exist by imitation
of numbers, Plato says that they exist by
participation -- merely a change of term. As to
what this participation or imitation may be,
they left this an open question.)
33Evidence
- Passages which presuppose the theory of Forms
- Arguments for the theory of Forms
- Motivations for the theory of Forms (Cherniss)
34Arguments for the Theory of Forms
- Phaedo 74a9-c5 The Equality Argument
- Republic V.475d-476b The Argument from
Opposites - Republic X.596a5-b4 The One Over Many Argument
- Timaeus 51d3-e6 The Argument from Knowledge
35The One Over Many Argument
- Do you want us to begin our examination, then,
by adopting our usual procedure? As you know, we
customarily hypothesize a single form in
connection with each of the many things to which
we apply the same name. Or don't you understand? - I do.
- Then let's now take any of the manys you like.
For example, there are many beds and tables. - Of course.
- But there are only two forms of such furniture,
one of the bed and one of the table. (Republic
X.596a5-b4 Grube/Reeve trans.
36The Argument from Knowledge
- If understanding and true opinion are distinct,
then these "by themselves" things definitely
exist-these Forms, the objects not of our sense
perception, but of our understanding only. But
if-as some people think-true opinion does not
differ in any way from understanding, then all
the things we perceive through our bodily senses
must be assumed to be the most stable things
there are. But we do have to speak of
understanding and true opinion as distinct, of
course, because we can come to have one without
the other, and the one is not like the other. It
is through instruction that we come to have
understanding, and through persuasion that we
come to have true belief. Understanding always
involves a true account while true belief lacks
any account. And while understanding remains
unmoved by persuasion, true belief gives in to
persuasion. And of true belief, it must be said,
all men have a share, but of understanding, only
the gods and a small group of people do.
(Timaeus 51d3-e6 Zeyl trans.)
37Motivations for the Theory of Forms
- TF accounts for objectivity in ethics (Cherniss)
- TF accounts for the distinction between knowledge
and sensation/opinion (Cherniss) - TF accounts for the instability in the phenomena
(Cherniss) - TF accounts for how words get their meaning
(White)
38Motivations from the Elenctic Dialogues
- TF may provide substance to Socratic Eudaemonism
- TF may account for the possibility of inquiry
(and knowledge in general) - TF may provide a justification for the Socratic
concern with definition