TEST YOUR FIREFIGHTING KNOWLEDGE

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TEST YOUR FIREFIGHTING KNOWLEDGE

• BY GARY EDWARDS

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Before we begin

• This presentation is not to be used as a means of
  finding fault or insult our fellow brethren, but
  to be used as a tool to recognize where we can
  improve our own skills and abilities in order to
• STAY SAFE

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WHAT DO YOU SEE WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE ?
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Here is what others had to say

• Day 1 Stuff, Bell goes off jacket goes on i bet
  he shat his pants Is this guy an idiot? How about
  that stupid ass Chief watching him .Do I hear the
  circus coming? Must be some yahoo department.
  goes against what we're taught hey people, OMG U
  HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME... IS THAT THEIR POLICY TO
  FIGHT STRUCTURE FIRES WITH RED SUSPENDERS? CAN WE
  SAY HEY GUBBER COME DOWN FROM THERE! FOUR
  FIREFIGHTERS ONE SCBA...NO MASKS..WHERE IS IC?
  Personal protective gear is extremely important,
  and in a situation like that it is not something
  to joke about. Where is the safety officer? just
  like a chief to sit there and watch. Hey Chief
  think you should say something? Two other
  Nimrods, one without a helmet or gloves and the
  other without a jacket, helmet or BA. Okay, maybe
  one explanation is this The guy on top of the
  ladder and the one below (w/o the helmet with
  scba) were fighting the fire from INSIDE when it
  simply became too hot to stand... and at that
  moment they had to bail out. On the porch or on
  his way down the first one loses his helmet, the
  second one can't stand the heat anymore and
  throws off his BA, helmet and vest on the porch
  because they are burning hot... Then he jumps
  onto the ladder to get out of there (you can see
  his feet aren't even ON it)... I don't see
  anything coming out of the roof and I don't think
  it would be rolling like that if the roof was
  vented. These guys give redneck fire departments
  a bad name.. So i guess the helmet is optional in
  his department...

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What could be done differently?
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What others think

• It would behoove him to make himself a loop for
  support...would be easier on him, at least his
  balls
• There should be more than one person on that line
  and like others have said there should be more
  than one line in service
• The FF is probably tired and knows he isn't
  moving for a while. A keely coil would be
  helpful, but when you get your chance to do what
  he's doing, you'll understand why he's like that.
  There's probably a bunch of other streams in
  service, coming from tower buckets, aerial
  ladders, or other master stream sources. Lastly,
  the rest of the crew is probably catching a break
  for a moment, or like most FDs, doesn't have
  enough personnel to get all the jobs done.
• Believe it or not, sitting on the hose like that
  does not hurt, it is awkward and uncomfortable
  but it definitely don't hurt and would not throw
  you around. Its general physics, even looping it
  once then sitting on it would reduce enough
  pressure to be comfortable to sit on, without
  feeling like being lifted up...

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What could be done differently?
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What others think

• GOT AIRPACKS (SCBA) ?
• A HOSELINE READY WOULD BE NICE
• A SAFETY HARNESS OFF THE PLATFORM MAY SAVE HIS
  LIFE IF ROOF COLLAPSES

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What could be done differently?
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What others have to say

• BIG FIRE BIG WATER
• Lets think about this... Fully involved to you
  left, Surround and Drown, protect the buildings
  to either side(s) with a large diameter
  hose/appliance
• Dangerous to straddle the line, both should be on
  same side.

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Whats wrong with this picture?
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What others have to say

• WHERE'S THE SCBA C'MON GUYS THIS IS WHY WE GET
  HURT!!
• 2 fog lines would work better
• Are those jeans?

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Whats wrong with this picture?
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What others have to say

• How about that trickle coming out of that
  Blitzfire?
• The problem could have been the hydrant was bad,
  an the truck had too many lines off of it...that
  could add up to a trickle out of the blitz gun
• Its a goner, protect surroundings

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What could be changed here?
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What others had to say

• it looks like someone needs to grab a hoseline
• no helmet, no SCBA and back turned to the
  fire...either a probie or a chief

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Whats wrong here, and its not the obvious
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Here is what others didnt see

• Hose man, where are your gloves
• Backup person, interesting way to hold the hose,
  but if it works???

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What do you think?
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Here is what others had to say

• WHY ARE THERE 5 GUYS ON THAT ROOF C'MON
  GUYS..THIS IS WHY WE GET HURT!!!
• Well a couple were making entry and two were
  going to the peak and another was holding the
  ladder for the men on the peak doing ventilation

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Take a guess what needs change
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Others say

• if i was that guy i would have a pack on . (SCBA)
• at least pull your shield down
• don't know if its lack of experience but if that
  were me I would have an air pack and mask on, and
  be a little farther away from the tank
• I agree with you guys about the safety items but
  maybe he just wanted to light a smoke?

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The truth is

• That was an LP training burn, the camera man is
  making it look like hes a lot closer than he
  really is, the tank has a huge hole in the bottom
  with a LP pipe going up through it, also notice
  the fog pattern behind him, this firefighter is
  fine and in no danger at all

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What could help here?
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Some say

• A hose line in case something goes wrong would be
  a definite asset
• Roof ladders, they're not just for traction any
  more. They distribute your weight to help keep
  you from going through the roof. The FF doing the
  cutting may be on one and you can't see it. The
  other FF is on the peak of the roof which is
  generally a little more solid

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Remember learn and live

• THE END
• and
• STAY SAFE