Title: What does your relationship with God mean to you?
1What does your relationship with God mean to you?
- If someone wants to be right with God he must put
Him first. (Matt 1037-39)
2What does your relationship with God mean to you?
- Matthew 1037-39 (NKJV) - He who loves father or
mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he
who loves son or daughter more than Me is not
worthy of Me. 38And he who does not take his
cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me.
39He who finds his life will lose it, and he who
loses his life for My sake will find it.
3What does your relationship with God mean to you?
- When compromise is made in your loyalty to God,
He calls it adultery.
4What does your relationship with God mean to you?
- How would you like to share your mate with
another?
5What does your relationship with God mean to you?
- How would you like to share your mate with
another? - This is how God views our loyalty to Him. (2 Cor
112-4)
6What does your relationship with God mean to you?
- 2 Corinthians 112-4 - For I am jealous for you
with godly jealousy. For I have betrothed you to
one husband, that I may present you as a chaste
virgin to Christ. 3 But I fear, lest somehow, as
the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so
your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity
that is in Christ.
7What does your relationship with God mean to you?
- 4 For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom
we have not preached, or if you receive a
different spirit which you have not received, or
a different gospel which you have not
acceptedyou may well put up with it!
8What does your relationship with God mean to you?
- The nation of Israel heard their adultery
described. (Jer 36-10)
9What does your relationship with God mean to you?
- Jeremiah 36-10 (NKJV) - The Lord said also to me
in the days of Josiah the king Have you seen
what backsliding Israel has done? She has gone up
on every high mountain and under every green
tree, and there played the harlot. 7And I said,
after she had done all these things, Return to
Me. But she did not return. And her treacherous
sister Judah saw it.
10What does your relationship with God mean to you?
- 8 Then I saw that for all the causes for which
backsliding Israel had committed adultery, I had
put her away and given her a certificate of
divorce yet her treacherous sister Judah did not
fear, but went and played the harlot also. 9 So
it came to pass, through her casual harlotry,
that she defiled the land and committed adultery
with stones and trees.
11What does your relationship with God mean to you?
- 10 And yet for all this her treacherous sister
Judah has not turned to Me with her whole heart,
but in pretense, says the Lord.
12What does your relationship with God mean to you?
- Judah in Josiahs day was doing many good things
outwardly. Why?
13What does your relationship with God mean to you?
- Judah in Josiahs day was doing many good things
outwardly. Why? - Because they followed a good king, Josiah.
14What does your relationship with God mean to you?
- Judah in Josiahs day was doing many good things
outwardly. Why? - Because they followed a good king, Josiah.
- God said they were not true in their hearts. This
is what God sees.
15Two Kinds of Fellowship
- There is fellowship with God. (1 John 11-3)
16Two Kinds of Fellowship
- 1 John 11-3 - That which was from the beginning,
which we have heard, which we have seen with our
eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands
have handled, concerning the Word of life2the
life was manifested, and we have seen, and bear
witness, and declare to you that eternal life
which was with the Father and was manifested to us
17Two Kinds of Fellowship
- 3 that which we have seen and heard we declare to
you, that you also may have fellowship with us
and truly our fellowship is with the Father and
with His Son Jesus Christ.
18Two Kinds of Fellowship
- What is fellowship? Koinonia - Communion,
fellowship, sharing in common...
19Two Kinds of Fellowship
- What is fellowship? Koinonia - Communion,
fellowship, sharing in common... - Fellowship always has an object! In this case it
is fellowship with God!
20Two Kinds of Fellowship
- God dwells in us as Christians. We share in
eternal life which is from God.
(Acts 238 1 Cor 619-20)
21Two Kinds of Fellowship
- Acts 238 (NKJV) - Then Peter said to them,
Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in
the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of
sins and you shall receive the gift of the Holy
Spirit.
22Two Kinds of Fellowship
- 1 Corinthians 619-20 (NKJV) - Or do you not know
that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit
who is in you, whom you have from God, and you
are not your own? 20 For you were bought at a
price therefore glorify God in your body and in
your spirit, which are Gods.
23Two Kinds of Fellowship
- There is our fellowship with other Christians.
(2 Cor 614 Gal 29 1 Cor 1223-27)
24Two Kinds of Fellowship
- 2 Corinthians 614 (NKJV) - Do not be unequally
yoked together with unbelievers. For what
fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness?
And what communion has light with darkness?
25Two Kinds of Fellowship
- Galatians 29 (NKJV) - and when James, Cephas,
and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the
grace that had been given to me, they gave me and
Barnabas the right hand of fellowship, that we
should go to the Gentiles and they to the
circumcised.
26Two Kinds of Fellowship
- 1 Corinthians 1223-27 (NKJV) - And those members
of the body which we think to be less honorable,
on these we bestow greater honor and our
unpresentable parts have greater modesty, 24 but
our presentable parts have no need. But God
composed the body, having given greater honor to
that part which lacks it,
27Two Kinds of Fellowship
- 25 that there should be no schism in the body,
but that the members should have the same care
for one another. 26 And if one member suffers,
all the members suffer with it or if one member
is honored, all the members rejoice with it. 27
Now you are the body of Christ, and members
individually.
28Two Kinds of Fellowship
- This relationship has its foundation in an
underlying fellowship with God.
29Two Kinds of Fellowship
- Here we share with one another spiritual
encouragement, we recognize one another as
Christians, and we share together in things
Christians are to do together.
30Two Kinds of Fellowship
- Here we share with one another spiritual
encouragement, we recognize one another as
Christians, and we share together in things
Christians are to do together. - Consider the spiritual fellowship we have as
Christians. (Acts 242 1 Cor 1016-17, 21-22)
31Two Kinds of Fellowship
- Acts 242 (NKJV) - And they continued steadfastly
in the apostles doctrine and fellowship, in the
breaking of bread, and in prayers.
32Two Kinds of Fellowship
- 1 Corinthians 1016-17 (NKJV) - The cup of
blessing which we bless, is it not the communion
of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break,
is it not the communion of the body of Christ?
17For we, though many, are one bread and one
body for we all partake of that one bread.
33Two Kinds of Fellowship
- 1 Corinthians 1021-22 (NKJV) - You cannot drink
the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons you
cannot partake of the Lords table and of the
table of demons. 22Or do we provoke the Lord to
jealousy? Are we stronger than He?
34The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- Before we extend fellowship to others as
Christians, we must make a judgment as to
whether they are faithful to God. (1 John 15-7)
35The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- 1 John 15-7 (NKJV) - This is the message which
we have heard from Him and declare to you, that
God is light and in Him is no darkness at all. 6
If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and
walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the
truth. 7 But if we walk in the light as He is in
the light, we have fellowship with one another,
and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us
from all sin.
36The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- We need to ask Is this one a Christian? (Acts
926)
37The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- Acts 926 (NKJV) - And when Saul had come to
Jerusalem, he tried to join the disciples but
they were all afraid of him, and did not believe
that he was a disciple.
38The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- We also need to ask Is this one a faithful
Christian? (1 John 34-10 Eph 511)
39The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- 1 John 34-10 (NKJV) - Whoever commits sin also
commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness. 5And
you know that He was manifested to take away our
sins, and in Him there is no sin. 6Whoever abides
in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither
seen Him nor known Him.
40The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- 7 Little children, let no one deceive you. He who
practices righteousness is righteous, just as He
is righteous. 8 He who sins is of the devil, for
the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this
purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He
might destroy the works of the devil.
41The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- 9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for
His seed remains in him and he cannot sin,
because he has been born of God. 10 In this the
children of God and the children of the devil are
manifest Whoever does not practice righteousness
is not of God, nor is he who does not love his
brother.
42The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- Ephesians 511 (NKJV) - And have no fellowship
with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather
expose them.
43The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- There are limits to this kind of judgment. We are
no trying to take Gods place! (1 Cor 42-4)
44The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- 1 Corinthians 42-4 (NKJV) - Moreover it is
required in stewards that one be found faithful.
3 But with me it is a very small thing that I
should be judged by you or by a human court. In
fact, I do not even judge myself. 4 For I know of
nothing against myself, yet I am not justified by
this but He who judges me is the Lord.
45The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- Why does this church exist? What is the primary
reason for our relationship with one another? It
is not the restoration heritage but the cross
of Christ! (Gal 614)
46The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- Galatians 614 (NKJV) - But God forbid that I
should boast except in the cross of our Lord
Jesus Christ, by whom the world has been
crucified to me, and I to the world.
47The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- What is our attitude toward other brothers and
sisters in Christ? Do we view them as one for
whom Christ died? (Rom 1415, 20)
48The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- Romans 1415 (NKJV) - Yet if your brother is
grieved because of your food, you are no longer
walking in love. Do not destroy with your food
the one for whom Christ died.
49The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- Romans 1420 (NKJV) - Do not destroy the work of
God for the sake of food. All things indeed are
pure, but it is evil for the man who eats with
offense.
50The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- We can be wrong in our judgment.
51The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- We can be wrong in our judgment.
- The Christians at Jerusalem were wrong at first
about Paul. (Acts 926)
52The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- Acts 926 (NKJV) - And when Saul had come to
Jerusalem, he tried to join the disciples but
they were all afraid of him, and did not believe
that he was a disciple.
53The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- They did discover their error and correct it!
(Acts 927-28)
54The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- Acts 927-28 (NKJV) - But Barnabas took him and
brought him to the apostles. And he declared to
them how he had seen the Lord on the road, and
that He had spoken to him, and how he had
preached boldly at Damascus in the name of Jesus.
28So he was with them at Jerusalem, coming in and
going out.
55The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- We must never let the fear of We could be
wrong, keep us from doing what the Lord demands!
56The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- We must never let the fear of We could be
wrong, keep us from doing what the Lord demands! - The church at Corinth refused, at first, to
withdraw from one practicing sin.
(1 Cor 51-3)
57The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- 1 Corinthians 51-3 (NKJV) - It is actually
reported that there is sexual immorality among
you, and such sexual immorality as is not even
named among the Gentilesthat a man has his
fathers wife! 2And you are puffed up, and have
not rather mourned, that he who has done this
deed might be taken away from among you.
58The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- 3For I indeed, as absent in body but present in
spirit, have already judged (as though I were
present) him who has so done this deed.
59The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- There is a standard upon which fellowship is
based.
60The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- There is a standard upon which fellowship is
based. - The New Testament is our standard. (2 Thess 36,
14 Rom 1617 1 Jn 46)
61The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- 2 Thessalonians 36 (NKJV) - But we command you,
brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ,
that you withdraw from every brother who walks
disorderly and not according to the tradition
which he received from us.
62The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- 2 Thessalonians 314 (NKJV) - And if anyone does
not obey our word in this epistle, note that
person and do not keep company with him, that he
may be ashamed.
63The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- Romans 1617 (NKJV) - Now I urge you, brethren,
note those who cause divisions and offenses,
contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and
avoid them.
64The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- 1 John 46 (NKJV) - We are of God. He who knows
God hears us he who is not of God does not hear
us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the
spirit of error.
65The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- Some have asked What is the doctrine of
Christ? (2 John 9)
66The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- 2 John 19 (NKJV) - Whoever transgresses and does
not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have
God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has
both the Father and the Son.
67The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- The doctrine of Christ is what Christ taught.
(John 1248 Rev 214)
68The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- John 1248 (NKJV) - He who rejects Me, and does
not receive My words, has that which judges
himthe word that I have spoken will judge him in
the last day.
69The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- Revelation 214 (NKJV) - But I have a few things
against you, because you have there those who
hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balak to
put a stumbling block before the children of
Israel, to eat things sacrificed to idols, and to
commit sexual immorality.
70The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- How do we extend fellowship?
71The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- How do we extend fellowship?
- By recognizing and greeting one as a faithful
brother. (2 John 9-11)
72The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- 2 John 9-11 (NKJV) - Whoever transgresses and
does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not
have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ
has both the Father and the Son. 10If anyone
comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do
not receive him into your house nor greet him
11for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.
73The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- By supporting one in their teaching. (3 John 5-8)
74The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- 3 John 15-8 (NKJV) - Beloved, you do faithfully
whatever you do for the brethren and for
strangers, 6who have borne witness of your love
before the church. If you send them forward on
their journey in a manner worthy of God, you will
do well, 7 because they went forth for His names
sake, taking nothing from the Gentiles.
75The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- 8 We therefore ought to receive such, that we may
become fellow workers for the truth.
76The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- By associating with one because they are right
with God. (1 Cor 59-11 2 Thess 314-15)
77The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- 1 Corinthians 59-11 (NKJV) - I wrote to you in
my epistle not to keep company with sexually
immoral people. 10Yet I certainly did not mean
with the sexually immoral people of this world,
or with the covetous, or extortioners, or
idolaters, since then you would need to go out of
the world.
78The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- 11 But now I have written to you not to keep
company with anyone named a brother, who is
sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or
a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortionernot
even to eat with such a person.
79The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- 2 Thessalonians 314-15 (NKJV) - And if anyone
does not obey our word in this epistle, note that
person and do not keep company with him, that he
may be ashamed. 15Yet do not count him as an
enemy, but admonish him as a brother.
80The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- We can be wrong in our judgment.
81The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- We can be wrong in our judgment.
- The Christians at Jerusalem were wrong at first
about Paul. (Acts 926)
82The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- Acts 926 (NKJV) - And when Saul had come to
Jerusalem, he tried to join the disciples but
they were all afraid of him, and did not believe
that he was a disciple.
83The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- They did discover their error and correct it!
(Acts 927-28)
84The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- Acts 927-28 (NKJV) - But Barnabas took him and
brought him to the apostles. And he declared to
them how he had seen the Lord on the road, and
that He had spoken to him, and how he had
preached boldly at Damascus in the name of Jesus.
28 So he was with them at Jerusalem, coming in
and going out.
85The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- We must never let the fear of We could be
wrong, keep us from doing what the Lord demands!
86The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- We must never let the fear of We could be
wrong, keep us from doing what the Lord demands! - The church at Corinth refused, at first, to
withdraw from one practicing sin.
(1 Cor 51-3)
87The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- 1 Corinthians 51-3 (NKJV) - It is actually
reported that there is sexual immorality among
you, and such sexual immorality as is not even
named among the Gentilesthat a man has his
fathers wife! 2 And you are puffed up, and have
not rather mourned, that he who has done this
deed might be taken away from among you.
88The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- 3 For I indeed, as absent in body but present in
spirit, have already judged (as though I were
present) him who has so done this deed.
89The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- There is a standard upon which fellowship is
based.
90The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- There is a standard upon which fellowship is
based. - The New Testament is our standard. (2 Thess 36,
14 Rom 1617 1 Jn 46)
91The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- 2 Thessalonians 36 (NKJV) - But we command you,
brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ,
that you withdraw from every brother who walks
disorderly and not according to the tradition
which he received from us.
92The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- 2 Thessalonians 314 (NKJV) - And if anyone does
not obey our word in this epistle, note that
person and do not keep company with him, that he
may be ashamed.
93The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- Romans 1617 (NKJV)- Now I urge you, brethren,
note those who cause divisions and offenses,
contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and
avoid them.
94The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- 1 John 46 (NKJV) - We are of God. He who knows
God hears us he who is not of God does not hear
us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the
spirit of error.
95The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- Some have asked What is the doctrine of
Christ? (2 John 9)
96The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- 2 John 9 (NKJV) - Whoever transgresses and does
not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have
God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has
both the Father and the Son.
97The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- The doctrine of Christ is what Christ taught.
(John 1248 Rev 214)
98The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- John 1248 (NKJV) - He who rejects Me, and does
not receive My words, has that which judges
himthe word that I have spoken will judge him in
the last day.
99The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- Revelation 214 (NKJV) - But I have a few things
against you, because you have there those who
hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balak to
put a stumbling block before the children of
Israel, to eat things sacrificed to idols, and to
commit sexual immorality.
100The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- Revelation 214 (NKJV) - But I have a few things
against you, because you have there those who
hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balak to
put a stumbling block before the children of
Israel, to eat things sacrificed to idols, and to
commit sexual immorality.
101The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- How do we extend fellowship?
102The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- How do we extend fellowship?
- By recognizing and greeting one as a faithful
brother. (2 John 9-11)
103The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- 2 John 9-11 (NKJV) - Whoever transgresses and
does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not
have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ
has both the Father and the Son. 10 If anyone
comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do
not receive him into your house nor greet him
11for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.
104The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- By supporting one in their teaching. (3 John 5-8)
105The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- 3 John 15-8 (NKJV) - Beloved, you do faithfully
whatever you do for the brethren and for
strangers, 6 who have borne witness of your love
before the church. If you send them forward on
their journey in a manner worthy of God, you will
do well, 7 because they went forth for His names
sake, taking nothing from the Gentiles.
106The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- 8 We therefore ought to receive such, that we may
become fellow workers for the truth.
107The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- By associating with one because they are right
with God. (1 Cor 59-11 2 Thess 314-15)
108The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- 1 Corinthians 59-11 (NKJV) - I wrote to you in
my epistle not to keep company with sexually
immoral people. 10 Yet I certainly did not mean
with the sexually immoral people of this world,
or with the covetous, or extortioners, or
idolaters, since then you would need to go out of
the world.
109The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- 11 But now I have written to you not to keep
company with anyone named a brother, who is
sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or
a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortionernot
even to eat with such a person.
110The Biblical Bounds of Fellowship
- 2 Thessalonians 314-15 (NKJV) - And if anyone
does not obey our word in this epistle, note that
person and do not keep company with him, that he
may be ashamed. 15 Yet do not count him as an
enemy, but admonish him as a brother.
111Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
- In the 50s and 60s there was gradual acceptance
of allowing men to come for meetings who
had departed from basic Bible teachings.
112Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
- In the 50s and 60s there was gradual acceptance
of allowing men to come for meetings who
had departed from basic Bible teachings. - Often these men were attached to large sponsoring
churches or church colleges. To many his gave
them instant credibility.
113Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
- In the place these men worked they did not teach
the things they believed publicly, but often
spread these things in private. (Jude 3-4)
114Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
- Jude 13-4 (NKJV) - Beloved, while I was very
diligent to write to you concerning our common
salvation, I found it necessary to write to you
exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith
which was once for all delivered to the saints.
115Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
- 4 For certain men have crept in unnoticed, who
long ago were marked out for this condemnation,
ungodly men, who turn the grace of our God into
lewdness and deny the only Lord God and our Lord
Jesus Christ.
116Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
- In time these institutions were allowing these
men to go unchecked.
117Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
- In time these institutions were allowing these
men to go unchecked. - Today the Institutional churches have come to
reap a harvest.
118Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
- Most of the large institutions have now
completely fallen under the control of the
change agents.
119Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
- Most of the large institutions have now
completely fallen under the control of the
change agents. - Where the influence of these institutions was
welded in the 50s and 60s to protect their
support from church treasuries, this same power
is being used today to push out the Patternist.
120Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
- Here are the current views of fellowship.
121Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
- We can fellowship churches that use instruments
of music.
122Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
- When I asked Buddy how he viewed the Christian
Church, he floored me by boldly saying that he
was in "FULL FELLOWSHIP WITH THEM." Since I
couldn't believe what I had just heard, I asked
him the second time, "You are in full fellowship
with them?" Buddy said, "I feel that way. Buddy
Bell Returns To Montgomery, Alabama! - Ray
Dutton, Seek the Old Paths
123Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
- We can fellowship all believers in Christ, which
includes the mainline denominations.
124Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
- We can fellowship all believers in Christ, which
includes the mainline denominations. - Sometimes there is open fellowship in the
exchanging of pulpits. (Ex. Max Lucado at a
Baptist church When I see a believer, I see a
brother.)
125Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
- We can fellowship all believers in Christ, which
includes the mainline denominations. - Sometimes there is open fellowship in the
exchanging of pulpits. (Ex. Max Lucado at a
Baptist church When I see a believer, I see a
brother.) - Sometimes this open fellowship in done in
special meetings.
126Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
- We express concern for our sister congregation,
the Covington Road church in Natchez, in their
recent decision to be involved with a Baptist
denominational group known as "World Changers."
Denominations are man-made institutions with
earthly headquarters, manuals, organizations,
plans of salvation, worships and works.
127Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
- They are not the church of the New Testament, as
is evident from the Scriptures, and work contrary
to the Truth of God....
128Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
- ...In receiving the Covington Road News
bulletins and being informed of the coming of the
"World Changers" to Natchez, one would consider
them to be our Christian youth from churches
across the country. They were not! They were
Southern Baptist youth. The bulletins were
deceptive in that this was never mentioned. It
was through the local newspaper that we learned
that the youth were Southern Baptists.
129Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
- The June issue of the bulletin says, "Let us
plan, pray and work for this good effort...." (We
acknowledge the work to be good work but the
fellowship is unscriptural and sinful. We are to
"have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of
darkness but rather reprove them" (Eph. 511).
130Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
- The following July bulletins state "We encourage
any -- especially our youth -- to be involved in
this manual labor on behalf of others and to
God's glory." "We look forward to this
opportunity to serve the needs of others in our
community may God bless our efforts..." -
Covington Road Church Further Fractures
Fellowship, Joe W. Nichols
131Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
- The Promise Keepers group is the current tool
used by many to encourage open fellowship.
132Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
- ...on having fellowship with denominational
churches. I have already pointed out that he
claims to be in "full fellowship" with the
Christian Church. When I questioned him about
fellowshipping the Baptists and Methodists, he
looked at me and said, "I'm going to fellowship
them where I can fellowship them." To prove his
point he brought up "Promise Keepers."
133Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
- To my surprise he openly stated that he was going
to be, in his words, "real comfortable rejoicing
with those people about Jesus on what He's
done."....
134Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
- Buddy thinks we should "rejoice" with these
purveyors of error, but again Paul warned Titus
that "there are many unruly and vain talkers and
deceivers, specially they of the circumcision,
whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole
houses, teaching things which they ought not, for
filthy lucre's sake" (Titus 110-11).
135Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
- How can we support and encourage these false
teachers at "Promise Keepers" or any other
denominational endeavor when Paul says that their
"mouths must be stopped? Buddy Bell Returns To
Montgomery, Alabama! - Ray Dutton
136Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
- The only thing essential to salvation is the plan
of salvation.
137Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
- My first question for Buddy was "Who are the
saved?" Buddy said that he felt that if he and I
were teaching a non-Christian that our answers
would be the same. He then stated to me that he
believed that baptism was essential. I, then,
asked him if a person could believe what the
Baptists and Methodists teach about salvation and
be saved. He did not answer YES or NO.
138Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
- He hedged by saying that he wasn't sure whether a
person had to understand that baptism was for the
remission of sins.
139Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
- Since his answer troubled me, I asked him if he
believed Baptists are SAVED. Again, he responded
that he had a hard time answering that, and that
he had some real mixed emotions about that. So I
asked him if he considered them brothers and
sisters in the Lord's fellowship. His answer
"Probably some I would. Buddy Bell Returns To
Montgomery, Alabama! - Ray Dutton, Seek the Old
Paths
140Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
- Many are swapping pulpits with denominations and
giving up baptism as essential for salvation!
141Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
- Max Lucado - Radio Station KJAK, Lubbock, Texas -
December 1996 Just turn your heart to him even
right now as I am speaking. Call him your Father.
And your Father will respond. Why don't you do
that?
142Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
- Instrumental music playing in background
"Father, I give my heart to you. I give you my
sins, I give you my tears, I give you my fears,
I give you my whole life. I accept the gift of
your Son on the cross for my sins. And I ask you,
Father, to receive me as your child. Through
Jesus I pray. Amen.
143Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
- ANNOUNCER And friend, if you prayed along with
Max Lucado just now, here on UPWARDS, we want to
welcome you into the family of God. We hope you
will contact us and share your personal
testimony. If you are already a believer, we
thank you for praying for these new brothers and
sisters in Christ..
144Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
- Now Max Lucado returns with a special word for
those who received the gift of salvation just
moments ago in prayer. MAX LUCADO instrumental
music playing in the background
145Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
- Today is the first day you've ever prayed a
prayer like that. Could you do me a favor? Could
you write me a letter? I don't have anything I am
going to ask from you. I do have a letter I would
like to send to you, I'd like to give you a word
about the next step or two.
146Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
- I want to encourage you to find a church, I want
to encourage you to be baptized, I want to
encourage you to read your Bible. But I don't
want you to do any of that so that you will be
saved. I want you to do all of that because you
are saved. You see, your Father has a great life
planned for you, and I want to tell you about it.
Give us a call, and drop me a note.
147Views of Fellowship --- Then and Now
- And, thanks my friend, for making the greatest
decision of your life. I'll be back on Monday. I
hope you will be too. Transcribed from the tape.
148Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
- We cannot know if one is right or wrong on....
149Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
- We cannot know if one is right or wrong on....
- Some have asked me this Do you have all
knowledge? If I say No, then they follow How
then can you be sure you are right about this?
My answer is I may not know ALL THINGS, but I
do know SOME THINGS!
150Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
- Why do some people not know? (Luke 1029 Jn
319-21)
151Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
- Luke 1029 (NKJV) - But he, wanting to justify
himself, said to Jesus, And who is my neighbor?
152Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
- John 319-21 (NKJV) - And this is the
condemnation, that the light has come into the
world, and men loved darkness rather than light,
because their deeds were evil. 20 For everyone
practicing evil hates the light and does not come
to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed.
21 But he who does the truth comes to the light,
that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they
have been done in God.
153Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
- Churches are stagnating, we will become extinct!
154Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
- Churches are stagnating, we will become extinct!
- If this is so, let us then seek Gods solutions.
155Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
- Churches are stagnating, we will become extinct!
- If this is so, let us then seek Gods solutions.
- Why do we exist? (Gal 220)
156Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
- Galatians 220 (NKJV) - I have been crucified
with Christ it is no longer I who live, but
Christ lives in me and the life which I now live
in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God,
who loved me and gave Himself for me.
157Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
- Because of bad personal experiences.
158Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
- Because of bad personal experiences.
- The most common cause of these departures is
what I call Reactionary Apostasy.
159Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
- What is wrong with this thinking? (Rom 34)
160Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
- Romans 34 (NKJV) - Certainly not! Indeed, let
God be true but every man a liar. As it is
written That You may be justified in Your
words, And may overcome when You are judged.
161Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
- Is it right to get mad at the dog, and kick the
cat?
162Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
- Because of a subjective view of how to know Gods
will.
163Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
- Because of a subjective view of how to know Gods
will. - Some have viewed themselves so close to God as to
be above being challenged. These feel that they
just know what God wants without looking at the
scriptures.
164Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
- Because of a subjective view of how to know Gods
will. - Some have viewed themselves so close to God as to
be above being challenged. These feel that they
just know what God wants without looking at the
scriptures. - This is pride! (1 Cor 81-2)
165Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
- 1 Corinthians 81-2 (NKJV) - Now concerning
things offered to idols We know that we all have
knowledge. Knowledge puffs up, but love edifies.
2 And if anyone thinks that he knows anything, he
knows nothing yet as he ought to know.
166Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
- Others have let their desire to be with others
cause them to re-think fellowship.
167Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
- Others have let their desire to be with others
cause them to re-think fellowship. - Because we should be tolerant!
168Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
- Who defines tolerant, God or the current
culture?
169Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
- But here it's important to remember what is
meant by Tolerance" in a relativist society. It
doesn't mean what used to mean permitting each
person the right to believe (or disbelieve)
according to his own conscience. That would be a
respect for religious freedom far too noble for a
secular society bent on the eradication of
religious faith.
170Arguments for a Broader Fellowship.
- In sharp contrast, today's "tolerance" means
having to accept all values, truths, and beliefs
(no matter how morally bankrupt) as equally
valid. - The Cultural Church, p. 78-79
171Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
- Fellowship in time will determine practice. (1
Cor 55-6)
172Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
- 1 Corinthians 55-6 (NKJV) - deliver such a one
to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that
his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord
Jesus. Your glorying is not good. Do you not know
that a little leaven leavens the whole lump?
173Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
- This is not a new path! Consider again the
experience of the Disciples of Christ
Denomination.
174Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
- This is not a new path! Consider again the
experience of the Disciples of Christ
Denomination. - Even if you hold steadfast your views what will
become of your children?
175Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
- Even now many country churches that have not had
the slightest idea about what was occurring are
now being influences by the children and
newcomers who attended the Christian colleges
and large city churches. Many have found
themselves in a minority on a very fast train.
176Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
- Even now many country churches that have not had
the slightest idea about what was occurring are
now being influences by the children and
newcomers who attended the Christian colleges
and large city churches. Many have found
themselves in a minority on a very fast train. - The openness of today will become withdrawn in
the future.
177Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
- J. W. McGarvey learned a lesson the hard way in
his middle of the road position on fellowship.
178Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
- If you want to influence someone with Gods
wisdom, take a stand! (2 Cor 614-17)
179Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
- 2 Corinthians 614-17 (NKJV) - Do not be
unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For
what fellowship has righteousness with
lawlessness? And what communion has light with
darkness? 15And what accord has Christ with
Belial? Or what part has a believer with an
unbeliever?
180Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
- 16And what agreement has the temple of God with
idols? For you are the temple of the living God.
As God has said I will dwell in them And walk
among them. I will be their God, And they shall
be My people. 17 Therefore Come out from among
them And be separate, says the Lord. Do not touch
what is unclean, And I will receive you.
181Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
- God will view me as practicing the things that I
encourage others in.
182Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
- God will view me as practicing the things that I
encourage others in. - I will be held accountable! (1 Tim 522 2 John
9-11)
183Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
- 1 Timothy 522 (NKJV) - Do not lay hands on
anyone hastily, nor share in other peoples sins
keep yourself pure.
184Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
- 2 John 19-11 (NKJV) - Whoever transgresses and
does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not
have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ
has both the Father and the Son. 10If anyone
comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do
not receive him into your house nor greet him
11for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.
185Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
- What is my goal? Do I want others to change.
186Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
- What is my goal? Do I want others to change.
- Who do I really want to have fellowship with?
187Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
- What is my goal? Do I want others to change.
- Who do I really want to have fellowship with?
- While some say they want to be right with God,
they in fact want to please men. (Gal
110)
188Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
- Galatians 110 (NKJV) - For do I now persuade
men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I
still pleased men, I would not be a bondservant
of Christ.
189Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
- While we may fool men, God knows our heart!
190Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
- While we may fool men, God knows our heart!
- I have talked with men about what was right and
what they needed to do.
191Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
- Even though they have agreed with me, I have
often heard the refusal to stand rationalized
like this It is hard to do what is right!
192Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
- Even though they have agreed with me, I have
often heard the refusal to stand rationalized
like this It is hard to do what is right! - What will heaven be like?
193Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
- Even though they have agreed with me, I have
often heard the refusal to stand rationalized
like this It is hard to do what is right! - What will heaven be like?
- It will be filled with men of faith who at times
had to stand alone. (Heb 1132-38)
194Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
- Hebrews 1132-38 (NKJV) - And what more shall I
say? For the time would fail me to tell of Gideon
and Barak and Samson and Jephthah, also of David
and Samuel and the prophets 33 who through faith
subdued kingdoms, worked righteousness, obtained
promises, stopped the mouths of lions,
195Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
- 34 quenched the violence of fire, escaped the
edge of the sword, out of weakness were made
strong, became valiant in battle, turned to
flight the armies of the aliens. 35 Women
received their dead raised to life again. Others
were tortured, not accepting deliverance, that
they might obtain a better resurrection.
196Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
- 36 Still others had trial of mockings and
scourgings, yes, and of chains and imprisonment.
37 They were stoned, they were sawn in two, were
tempted, were slain with the sword. They wandered
about in sheepskins and goatskins, being
destitute, afflicted, tormented38 of whom the
world was not worthy. They wandered in deserts
and mountains, in dens and caves of the earth.
197Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
- Have you heard of these men?
198Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
- Have you heard of these men?
- Sethur? Gaddiel? Palti? Shaphat? Nahbi?
199Consequences of a Broader Fellowship
- Have you heard of these men?
- Sethur? Gaddiel? Palti? Shaphat? Nahbi?
- How about these men? Caleb? Joshua?