Title: Just be grateful I dont take it all
1Just be grateful I dont take it all
- SCONUL Autumn Conference 2004
- Pat Noon
2The legal basis 1
- Universities are exempt for VAT purposes
- Cant reclaim VAT on supply of education
- Normally constructing and running libraries is
just one of the overheads to supplying education - But
3The legal basis 2
- Supplying library services independent of
education supply can be taxable - Therefore input VAT can be recovered
- Books and periodicals are zero rated for VAT
- This makes levels of recoverable VAT very
attractive in some circumstances
4Reasons for setting up a scheme
- To reclaim the VAT on the build cost of buildings
or extensions - To hedge against VAT on books and periodicals
- To reclaim VAT on future recurrent and capital
spend
5Is it worth it?
- 3.1m cash in the bank
- 4.9m savings in irrecoverable VAT over 10 years
- 0.5m IE account benefit
6The process 1
- Decide if it is worth it
- Appoint tax advisers
- Develop options for a scheme
- Choose a scheme
- Do the financial models
- Agree an irrecoverable VAT model
- Take legal advice
7The process 2
- Set up a company
- Draw up all the company documents
- Finance the company
- Get agreement from Customs
- Agree prepayments if required.
- Adapt Library budget processes
- then run the company for 10 years
8A cast of thousands
- You
- .and any of your senior colleagues who
understand - Your budget manager
- The Director of Finance
- The Deputy Director of Finance
- Your Finance liaison accountant
- The person in Finance who understands VAT
- The University Secretary/ legal expert
- The University legal advisers
- The Director of Estates
9.and thousands
- A tax consultant
- Another tax consultant when the first goes on
maternity leave - The first one back again when the second one
leaves - Their accountant who understands VAT
- A Barrister
- A Valuer
- Customs and Excise
10Options for a VAT Scheme
- Keep everything within the university
- Use the universitys enterprise subsidiary
- Create a separate tax vehicle
- A subsidiary company
- A charitable trust/company
- Make sure you pick the right one
11A separate company
- In order to convince Customs
- You will need counsel opinion
- It has to last 10 years
- It has to make a profit.. but not too much
- It has to operate at arms length from the
university
12Making the company work
- It will need some money from somewhere
- and a library to run
- and some staff
- and services
- and a Board Of Directors
- and Instrument and Articles
- and Board Meetings
13Populating the company
- Cash loans from the University
- Staff leased from the University
- A Library - bought from the university
- Equipment, furniture and fittings -depreciated
cost - Books periodicals car boot value
- Services bought in from the university
14Lease
Land
Contractor
Finding the cash No 1 Building the Library
15Finding the cash No 2 Keeping the company going
16But its never that simple
- Limited v Charitable company
- TLSU
- Two sets of accounts
- Three sets of budget monitoring
- Invoices within the same building
- Two Business Plans
- Two Annual Reports
- Fluent in Finance?
- Prepayments
17- This is an anti avoidance provision aimed at
preventing the use of VAT groups for VAT
avoidance purposes. it gives Customs powers to
direct that the companies concerned to be treated
as if they were in a VAT group (thereby ignoring
supplies between them) or conversely direct that
a VAT group which is already in place is not
effective for particular transactions (creating a
VAT charge where none would otherwise arise)
18Prepayment
- A form of gambling hedging
- Potential benefits if VAT scope changes
- Liabilities known for a fixed term
- May impose limits on freedom of the company and
therefore the Library - Managing Income
- Restricting budget revisions up and down
19VAT Models
- Direct costs
- 15
- Floor space
- Lowest figure (7) but Customs unlikely to accept
- All the PC space will count as standard rated
- Staff time allocation
- Close to direct cost but lower (13)
20Staff time issues
- Restrictions on activities
- CSV
- Careers
- Convincing Customs
- The diary exercise
- What is standard rated, what is zero rated
21Through the looking glass
- A PC isnt a book but it can count as zero rated
if - You are using the library catalogue to find a
book - You are using it to write a guide to finding
books or periodicals - But not if you are writing a guide to e-resources
- But if you are explaining about a database where
the outcome is a book that could be zero rated! - And then there is Customs and Excise
22Customs and Excise
- Excise A hateful tax Dr Johnson
- The Chancellor is more or less a taxing
machine.He is entrusted with a certain amount of
misery which it is his duty to distribute as
fairly as he can Viscount Lowe
23Talking to the tax man about poetry
The University
- For strategic reasons we want to set up a Library
subsidiary company
You mean youve got an idea for a tax scam
For operational reasons part of the Library will
remain outside the company
That definitely sounds like a scam
- We want to prepay the service charge for five
years
I knew it was a scam!
24Battles with the tax man
- We are trying to maximise scarce resources
- These resources are being used to improve
directly support for students - They are not going into the shareholders back
pocket - Why dont you chase the real villains?
25Is it really worth it?
- Doesnt necessary bring additional funds by
itself - But more money for the university is good for all
of us - Provides kudos for saving lots of money
- which can have other indirect benefits
- Budget cuts
- Preserving some build costs
26- Its as true as taxes isand theres nothing
truer than them Barkis - But in this world nothing can be said to be
certain except death and taxes - Franklin - You know the taxman is going to shaft you, you
just dont know how -I said that
27Accountants are taking over the world
They will replace her with Cruella Da Ville
3m tax savings secured
dont let them
Make sure your VAT model is robust
Never trust a smiling Tax Officer
Get the right Company structure
Dont lose your tax consultant
Let the accountants do what they are good at
Learn to tell the future
whatever that is
Make sure it is worth it?
Do engage VAT consultants
Stick to being the Librarian
Lets set up a VAT scheme
Winning the VAT Game
28Talking to the tax man about poetry
- Customs and Excise
- You mean youve got an idea for a tax scam
- That definitely sounds like a scam
- I knew it was a scam!
- The University
- For strategic reasons we want to set up a Library
subsidiary company - For operational reasons part of the Library will
remain outside the company - We want to prepay the service charge for five
years