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Title: Turtle Investing


1
Turtle Investing
  • The Practical Turtles Guide to Sticking Your
    Neck Out

Leigh Anderson lthia_at_tayara.comgt Presentation at
www.tayara.com/hia
2
Conventional Wisdom
  • Risk is proportional to reward
  • You cant successfully time the market
  • Therefore
  • Choose an asset allocation (proportion of bonds
    vs. stock) consistent with your risk tolerance
  • Buy, hold, rebalance
  • Over a long (30 year?) time horizon, this is good
    advice

3
Buy Hold Portfolios
4
Market-Cycle Investing
  • Risk varies over a market cycle (10 years or so)
  • Sometimes risk is rewarded, other times not
  • Suggests scaling risk exposure in response to
    market conditions
  • Forecast returns to equities
  • Increase/decrease proportion of equities in
    response to expected returns

5
Forecasting Returns
  • Roger Hussman method
  • Forecast earnings
  • Forecast P/E ratio
  • Return Earnings growth annualized change in
    P/E ratio Dividend Yield
  • Easy to do over 10-year period using historical
    trends
  • See The Likely Range of Market Returns in the
    Coming Decade
  • http//www.hussmanfunds.com/wmc/wmc050222.htm

6
Peak Earnings Predictability
7
Peak Earnings
8
Historical P/PeakE Ratio
9
P/PeakE vs Ten-Year Returns
10
P/PeakE Ratio Summary
  • P/PeakE ranges 7 20, with 11-14 normal
  • 7 Major secular lows (e.g. 1982)
  • 11 Median P/PeakE
  • 14Average P/PeakE
  • 20 Extreme highs (e.g. 1929)

11
The Turtle Strategy
  • Assume low P/PeakE means low risk/high return,
    and high P/PeakE means high risk/low return
  • Form portfolio of bonds stocks
  • Increase/decrease stock percentage as P/PeakE
    varies
  • 7 or less 90
  • 11 70
  • 14 40
  • 20 or more 10
  • (Average exposure is 56)

12
Stress Test 1968-2008
  • Starts on a peak (a bubble)
  • Two tech bubbles busts
  • Real Estate bubble bust
  • Stagflation
  • High/low interest rates
  • Twin Towers Bombing
  • Three wars
  • Two oil shocks
  • 3 recessions

13
Turtle vs Fixed Proportion
14
Turtle Percentage of Equity
15
1968 - 1980
16
1980 - 1987
17
1987 - 2000
18
2000 - 2008
19
Thoughts of Chairman Hussman
  • In overvalued markets, risk-management is
    generous in the sense that avoiding risk costs
    very little (or nothing) in terms of foregone
    long-term returns.
  • In undervalued markets, favorable valuation is
    generous in that it forgives even the most
    abominable timing of purchases, regardless of
    what happens over the short-term.
  • November 24, 2008 The Cornerstone of Capitalism,
    John P. Hussman, Ph.D.http//hussmanfunds.com/wmc
    /wmc081124.htm

20
Thoughts of Chairman Hussman
  • Risk avoidance is generally uncomfortable when
    the markets are hitting speculative highs, and
    value-conscious investing is equally
    uncomfortable when the market is declining.
  • but long-term investors who entirely ignore
    valuation are simply not investors at all.
  • Value-conscious investing is both rewarding and
    forgiving over time. What the markets don't
    forgive is accepting risk in extremely overvalued
    markets and abandoning risk in undervalued ones.
    To do that more than once or twice in one's
    lifetime is to destroy any prospect of financial
    security.

21
Thoughts of Chairman Hussman
  • Investment returns aren't free money. Over the
    long-term, they are compensation for providing
    scarce, useful resources liquidity,
    information, and risk-bearing to other market
    participants. No useful services are provided to
    the market by a speculator who follows the crowd
    and chases glamour stocks higher late in an
    extended bull market run.
  • People who take enormous risks in overvalued
    securities and compete with other speculators to
    accumulate scarce stock at high prices do three
    things they accept risk when the expected
    long-term return for risk taking is extremely
    low, they absorb liquidity when liquidity is
    scarce, and they distort the information content
    of market prices by pushing overvalued stocks to
    even more extreme levels.
  • These speculators lose because they deserve to
    lose they have bargained to lose, because they
    have spent their wealth in a way that makes the
    market less efficient. This is why the Nasdaq has
    lost 80 from its speculative peak 8 years ago.
    Valuations have plunged from ridiculous
    elevations in 2000 to similarly extreme lows at
    present.

22
Thoughts of Chairman Hussman
  • In contrast, the market compensates investors
    not over the short-term, but predictably over the
    long-term for the willingness to bear risk when
    other investors are unwilling for the
    willingness to provide liquidity by holding out
    bids (gradually and at depressed prices) to
    panicked holders stampeding to get out and for
    improving the information content of market
    prices by reducing the pressure for undervalued
    stocks to become even more distorted in relation
    to their probable cash slows. Long-term returns
    in a market economy are always compensation for
    providing scarce, useful resources to other
    participants in that market. If the activity is
    not scarce, and is not useful to others, there is
    no reason to expect it to to be profitable.
  • It is certainly not comfortable to scale into any
    investment exposure at all during a market
    plunge, but we are doing so very gradually. My
    guess is that when we look back on this period
    using monthly or quarterly charts, today will
    look like a very favorable point to have
    invested. On a weekly or daily chart, it may look
    premature or unfortunate but that's why you
    move gradually in response to improving
    valuations. Warren Buffett, who noted a good
    month ago that if prices keep looking
    attractive, my non-Berkshire net worth will soon
    be 100 percent in United States equities.
    Regardless of short-term prospects, I doubt he
    will have any regrets.

23
Thoughts of J. Paul Getty
For as long as I can remember, veteran
businessmen and investors I among them have
been warning about the dangers of irrational
stock speculation and hammering away at the theme
that stock certificates are deeds of ownership
and not betting slips. The professional investor
has no choice but to sit by quietly while the mob
has its day, until the enthusiasm or panic of the
speculators and non-professionals has been spent.
He is not impatient, nor is he even in a very
great hurry, for he is an investor, not a gambler
or a speculator. There are no safeguards that can
protect the emotional investor from himself. -
J. Paul Getty
24
Data Sources
  • SP price earnings
  • http//www2.standardandpoors.com/spf/xls/index/SP5
    00EPSEST.XLS
  • Robert Shillers data
  • http//www.econ.yale.edu/shiller/data/ie_data.xls

25
How to Compute P/PeakE
  • Download and open SP500EPSEST.xls
  • Look at the 12 MONTH VALUES tab worksheet
  • Scan down the 12 MONTH AS REPORTED EARNINGS PER
    SHR and find the largest number (no matter how
    far back). Thats the PeakE, in this case 84.94
  • Look up SP500 index value in newspaper or
    Yahoo. Today it is 847
  • P/PeakE 847/84.94 9.97
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