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Title: MJOENSO interactions


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MJO-ENSO interactions
  • Discussion items
  • Axel Timmermann, Fei-Fei Jin, Chidong Zhang

2
Slingos strawman, revisited
????
3
ENSO changes the spectrum from diurnal to annual
timescales and beyond .
4
State dependence of WWBs
From Eisenman
What physical mechanisms determine the
state-dependence of WWBs? What effect does the
state-dependence have on ENSO predictability? What
effect does the state-dependence have on the
seasonal evolution of ENSO?
5
(Why) Did the MJO-ENSO interaction increase?
MJO-ENSO interaction increased during the last
50 years from Jin et al. 2007 Is there still a
data-issue?
6
Tziperman El Nino gt WWB/MJO variance
increasesLi, Jin, McPhaden WWB/MJO variance
increases gt 9 months later El Nino???
7
Jeong- Song Kugs strawman
  • Background
  • SST
  • Circulation

Atmospheric Noise
MJO
2-7 years
ENSO
Transient feedback
Background
WWB
Synoptic Eddies
2-11 days
  • Transient Feedback
  • Additive Noise
  • Multiplicative noise

8
Why are CGCMs doing such a poor job in simulating
the MJO? What basic process is misrepresented? Wha
t effect does the state-dependence have on the
seasonal evolution of ENSO?
9
Precipitation spectra in Demeter
Lin et al.
Space-time spectrum of 15N-15S symmetric
component of precipitation divided by the
background spectrum
10
Wind spectra in Demeter
Lin et al.
Space-time spectrum of 15N-15S symmetric
component of 10m zonal wind in DEMETER hindcast
(May-Oct) initialized in May
11
But progress is happening
3.5km resolution
From Satoh, NICAM model
From GFDL
12
But progress is happening
Lag Correlation between Noise Variance and ENSO
indices
NCEP/NCAR Coupled control simulation
SNU Coupled control simulation SNU with
Cumulus momentum transfer (CMT) CMT mixes down
westerly momentum Intensifies noise variance
probably by Rossby wave instability
Courtesy of Kug, 2007
13
Key Issues
  • What are the relative roles of additive and
    multiplicative noise in different basic states or
    different ENSO regimes (unstable-chaos,
    unstable-limit cycle, neutral, stable)? What are
    the contributions to additive and multiplicative
    stochastic forcing of ENSO from the MJO and WWB?
  • To what degree do misrepresentations of the
    MJO/WWB in coupled models affect their ENSO
    prediction? What are scientific and practical
    merits to empirically correct such
    misrepresentations for improving ENSO prediction?
    To what degree would better MJO/WWB
    representations in coupled models improve their
    ENSO prediction?

14
Key Issues
  • Do ENSO - MJO/WWB relationships vary on decadal
    or longer timescales? If they do, to what extent
    does this suggest an effect of the changing basic
    state on the receptiveness of ENSO to stochastic
    forcing or on stochastic forcing itself? What are
    its implications to ENSO prediction and
    predictability?
  • How should various CLIVAR and broader WCRP and
    regional activities be coordinated to expedite
    the progress of improving the representations of
    the MJO in CGCMs for the purpose of improving
    ENSO prediction?

15
Coordinated experiments and diagnostics
  • Develop standardized diagnostics for CGCMs and
    observations to quantify (a) ENSO - stochastic
    forcing (distinguishing the MJO and non-MJO WWB)
    connections, and (b) the additive and
    multiplicative nature of stochastic forcing
    (especially the MJO and WWB)
  • Recommend CGCM centers/groups to use the
    standardized diagnostics to evaluate their models
  • Suggest coordinated CGCM experiments (with
    improved parameterizations) to be compared and
    evaluated with the standardized diagnostics
    resolve diurnal cycle, cumulus momentum transfer

16
Plan
  • Write a review paper on Stochastic forcing of
    ENSO, revisited (authors needed, more discussion
    in Pacific panel meeting)

17
Who is the El Nino terminator?
Upwelling Waves MJO ITCZ ?
El Nino
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