2009 MedDent Application Informational Meeting for 2010 Application Cycle

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2009 Med/Dent Application Informational Meeting
for 2010 Application Cycle

• April 28, 2009
• Dr. M. Samide and Mrs. J. Malarney
• www.butler.edu/postgraduate

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Medical / Dental School
Primary Application
AMCAS/AADSAS processes the primary
application. Once this processing is complete,
AMCAS/AADSAS sends the primary application to the
medical schools selected by the applicant. At
this point, the medical school takes over the
application.
Secondary Application
Interview
Upon invitation from the medical school Submit
additional letters of recommendation Submit
additional writing samples Send updated
transcripts if necessary Pay additional
application fee if required
Schedule interview date upon invitation from the
medical or dental school
Complete online application Send college
transcripts Letters of Recommendation sent
here Pay application fee
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Personal Statement Information

• http//www.essayedge.com/medical/essayadvice/cours
  e/lessonone.shtml
• http//www.amsa.org/premed/premedguide/pstatement.
  cfm1

For medical school, but also could be used for
dental
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Recommendation Letters

• AMCAS and AADSAS
• submit letters when you apply through the
  application service

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AMCAS Letter Basics

• Applicants can add up to 10 letters
• 2009 Applicants averaged 2-3 letters per
  application
• Applicants can send targeted letters
• Alumnus
• MD/PhD
• AMCAS retains letters for one application cycle
  only

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AMCAS Letter Basics

• In AMCAS, the student will
• Identify the letters AMCAS will receive (up to
  10 letters)
• Committee letter, letter packet OR Individual
  letter
• Institution Information (if available)
• Letter Writer / Contact information
• Can add additional authors for letter packets
• Print letter request form and provide it to
  letter writer/ contact
• Track receipt of letters by AMCAS

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AMCAS Letter Basics

• Designating Letters to Medical Schools
• Select Medical School
• A pre-populated list of letters entered by the
  applicant will appear
• Choose from the list of letters by either
  selecting all letters or designating them
  individually
• Letters DO NOT have to be entered before
  submission of the application.
• Once application is submitted with letter
  information it can NOT be edited/deleted

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AMCAS Letters not sending

• Applicants will be able to let AMCAS know if a
  letter is no longer going to be received so that
• Medical Schools will not wait for the delivery of
  a letter
• Applicants will stop receiving reminders about a
  letter they dont plan to have sent
• This letter still makes up one of their 10 letter
  entries

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Recommendation Letters

• At Butler
• Committee Letter Process
• Right now
• Select and Ask a professor to write your
  committee letter (should have already done
  this!!!)
• Fill out OPGS worksheets (available now)
• Judy????

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Links to Medical InformationOpens May 5th!

• http//www.aamc.org/students/applying/advisors/amc
  as2010instructions041509.pdf
• http//www.aamc.org/students/applying/advisors/201
  0conversionguide.pdf
• http//www.medicine.iu.edu/body.cfm?id174oTopID
  174app
• http//www.aamc.org/students/amcas/2010apptips.pdf
  
• http//www.aamc.org/students/amcas/2010appchecklis
  t.pdf
• http//www.aamc.org/students/amcas/faq/amcasletter
  s.htm

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Links to Dental InformationOpens June 1st!

• http//www5.adea.org/WebDocs/AADSAS/AppAADSASInstr
  uctions.pdf
• http//www.adea.org/dental_education_pathways/aads
  as/Documents/AppInfo.pdf

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Links to Podiatric Information

• http//www.e-aacpmas.org/
• http//www.e-aacpmas.org/aacpmas2009/html-bin/befo
  reapp.html
• http//www.aacpm.org/
• http//www.ocpm.edu/?pageadmission

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Links to Osteopathic Information

• http//www.aacom.org/Pages/default.aspx
• http//www.aacom.org/people/colleges/Pages/AppsDue
  .aspx
• http//www.aacom.org/resources/bookstore/cib/Docum
  ents/cib2010/2010cib-p18-20.pdf
• http//www.osteopathic.org/index.cfm?PageIDost_ma
  in
• http//www.atsu.edu/kcom/

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Alternate Programs

• http//www.meddean.luc.edu/depts/grad_school/progr
  ams.htm
• http//www.pbhealth.iupui.edu
• http//smp.georgetown.edu/
• http//grad.medicine.iu.edu/body.cfm?id1851
• http//www.msms.iu.edu/body.cfm?id6994SubDomain
  true

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Some IU Dent Stats

• 1778 applied in 2008
• 101 matriculated in 2008
• 5.6
• Average GPA 3.53 (science, 3.48)
• DAT Averages Academic 18.8
• Perceptual 20
• Science 18.7
• Placement IUB, IUPUI, PU, BS, Butler

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Our Dental Stats
2009 placement 4 / 8 (50)

• Why were students accepted
• Applied Early (May and June)
• High DAT (19-23 on various sections)
• High GPA (3.4 to 4.0)
• Why were students rejected
• Applied late (September)
• Low DAT (15-17 on various sections)
• Low GPA (2.4 to 3.0)

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Some National Medical Stats

• 40706 Applicants
• 14729 Accepted
• 36
• Average GPA 3.69
• Average MCAT 30

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Our Medical Stats
2009 placement 12 / 28 (50)

• Why were students accepted
• Applied Early (May and June)
• High MCAT (30-34 total)
• High GPA (3.8 to 4.0)
• Why were students rejected
• Applied late (September)
• Multiple Low MCAT (19-28 total)
• Low GPA (3.0 to 3.7)
• Weak interview
• Questionable school discipline record

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Our Medical Stats
2009 placement 12 / 28 (43)
Graduating seniors Placement was 7 of 19
Postgraduate students Placement was 5 of 9
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What to do now

• Decide if and then where to apply
• Get copies of ALL transcripts
• Letters of Recommendationcoordinate with Judy
• Refine your personal goal statement
• Develop a resume of activities and
  accomplishments
• Start working on the application as soon as it
  becomes available on-line!