Title: ALMA Science Workshop May 1415, 2004 Star and Planet Formation Breakout Session
1ALMA Science WorkshopMay 14-15, 2004Star and
Planet Formation Breakout Session
- Facilitators Doug Johnstone Debra Shepherd
2Science the DSRP
Detailed summary of representative
proposals Claire Chandler, DRSP 2.1.6, OTF
survey of large field James Di Francesco, DRSP
2.1.9, Envelope/disk structure David Wilner,
protoplanetary disks - gas and dust
continuum Science talks Yancy Shirley - Dust
continuum surveys bringing in the DRSP Derek
Lis - Deuteration and other fractionations
3Key issues from Science DSRP
- A significant number of star formation projects
image large fields (gt 1000 pointings) and require
ACA with total power. OTF mosaics easily push
the data rate beyond 6/60 MB/s specs. - Need for same uv coverage across mosaic ? must
get through mosaic fast, before configuration
changes significantly. - Cant always assume ACA integration time 4 x
ALMA. Some science requires same
sensitivity/beam to get same mass sensitivity ?
90 times more integration time on ACA than on
ALMA. Some sources only need same sensitivity
of the uv data in overlap region between ACA
ALMA ? 4 x ALMA Needs more thought to determine
impact on operations and determine how the ACA
over-subscription will be handled.
4Missing science in DSRP
- Transition objects to debris disks with little
gas dust. These will be closer, bigger will
have low surface brightness in large scale
structure. Very challenging to get ACA, TP data
with high enough sensitivity. This will impact
planned capabilities because it will put pressure
on ACA observing time that already appears to be
more over-subscribed than the ALMA array. - Mosaic surveys with ACA only to get large scale
structure in lesser known southern sources.
Again, taxes an already severely over-subscribed
ACA. - Continuum modeling of SEDs and uv amplitudes.
Needs wide range of frequency to get good SED,
1-3 absolute calibration accuracy important
across bands to constrain models.
5More Issues
- Will ALMA plans support early science proposals?
- Major problem supporting mosaics, since lack of
OTF mosaic capabilities at early science will
delay science return for star forming regions,
the ALMA project should think more about how and
when this will be implemented. - If can't get through mosaic fast enough to get
same uv coverage for all pointings, then relative
calibration at different times must be extremely
good. Issue if mosaic not finished will it
take a year to get back to a configuration to
finish a mosaic? BAD. - If ALMA pipeline heuristics not well developed,
need to guarantee one-on-one reduction/imaging
support for non-expert users.
6Synergy with other projects
- ACA/TP over-subscription Single dish surveys
critical for large mosaics to pinpoint
interesting regions for ALMA. Minimize ACA/TP
time. JCMT/SCUBA-2 may be critical. - Need FIR - NIR - submm to get accurate SEDs.
- JCMT/SCUBA2 SMA at submm,
- VLT at near-IR,
- Need eVLA to characterized ionized gas at cm
wavelengths - Since high mass cores will be optically thick
in dust emission with ALMA, eVLA at 43 GHz will
be critical to see optically thin dust emission -
As Neal Evans mentioned, this is the critical
type of source to relate galactic star formation
properties to more distant star bursts.
7Questionnaire
- Not clear from list what of science support
activities what are core functions and what are
non core functions. Needs to be made clearer.
- Beyond core functions, highest priorities seem to
be 1) getting face-to-face support for
reduction/imaging and training for students and
2) Software development of analysis tools. - Band 10 is, of course, important. Very good that
the Japanese will provide this. Some people
think Bands 2 5 are the next most important.
Band 8 also important. - Need to send back Questionnaire see how the
statistics fall out.
8Comments on the importance and/or science case
for the ACA
It is absolutely critical to star and planet
formation projects Time required for ACA
observations needs to be looked at more
critically