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PHL 201March 18, 2004
  • Quiz 3 Answers
  • Next Quiz Mar. 26 (new format)
  • Essay Assignments
  • Chapter Four The Self
  • Faculty Course Surveys

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Chapter Four The Self
  • How do we think about the self?
  • Personal Identity
  • The Bundle Theory of the Self
  • The Self as an Organizing Principle

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How do we think about the self?
  • (i) Some things we actually think about
    ourselves
  • -We were once smaller than we are now.
  • -We will become older than we are now.
  • -As we age our bodies change.
  • -The organic material that composes our bodies
    changes over time.
  • -Our memories will fade or change over time.
  • -We could survive losing certain parts of our
    bodies.

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  • -The first list is compatible with a
    materialistic view of what we are we are
    material bodies.
  • -The second list suggests that we are more than
    just bodies.
  • -It suggests we are immaterial souls that are
    contingently fastened to our bodies.
  • -we can change shape and form over time,
    and can exist without being connected to our
    bodies

5
  • -René Descartes (1596-1650) thought he had good
    reason for thinking that his body and his soul
    were distinct kinds of things
  • -he also thought he had a clear and distinct
    idea about what his soul/self was
  • -David Hume (1711-1776) disagreed
  • -when he introspected, all he was aware of were
    particular sensations or thoughts
  • -he was never aware of something more
  • -his self was elusive to introspection
  • -if he possessed a self, he thought it
    would be observable by introspection

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  • -Other philosophers, e.g. Descartes and Thomas
    Reid (1710-1796), have thought that the soul must
    be simple, non-composite, and indivisible
  • -many have thought that if the soul is simple,
    then it must be immortal (indestructible)
  • If something changes or decays, then it must be
    composed of parts.
  • The soul is not composed of parts.
  • Therefore,
  • The soul does not change or decay

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  • -If this is a sound argument, then it follows
    that the soul will survive the death of our
    bodies.
  • -However, if its sound, it also follows that our
    souls existed before we were born.
  • -This does sound odd.
  • -Note that this argument does not give us reason
    for thinking that if the soul is composed of
    parts, then it must be mortal.

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Personal Identity
  • -We think that we are the same person today that
    we were yesterday (a week ago, a year ago, ten
    years ago)
  • -We also think that, if we live long enough,
    there will be someone ten years from now who is
    us i.e. someone who is identical to us
  • -But what conditions must obtain for it to be
    true that someone at an earlier time/later time
    is identical to who we are now?

9
Some Logical Properties of Identity
  • If A, B, and C are names objects, then
  • A is identical to A (Everything is identical to
    itself Identity is a reflexive relation.)
  • If A is identical to B, then B is identical to A
    (Identity is a symmetrical relation.)
  • - If A is identical to B, and B is identical to
    C, then A is identical to C. (Identity is a
    transitive relation.)

10
The Ship of Theseus
  • An illustration of how difficult it can be to
    think about identity over time (Diachronic
    Identity)
  • -Theseus sails away in a new ship called Argos.
  • -Over time, Theseus replaces parts of the ship as
    they age, and replaces them with new parts.
  • -Twenty years later, every part of Argos has been
    replaced and the ship has been renamed Argos1.
  • -Socrates finds all the original pieces in a
    shipyard and assembles them into a ship Argos2

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A Puzzle About Identity
  • Consider the three ships Argos, Argos1, and
    Argos2.
  • -If Socrates had not reassembled the old parts to
    make Argos2, we would all say that ArgosArgos1.
  • -But since he did assemble the parts, it is not
    easy to decide whether Argos1 or Argos2 is
    identical to the original Argos.
  • -How would you decide?

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A Puzzle About Identity
  • Consider the three ships Argos, Argos1, and
    Argos2.
  • -If Socrates had not reassembled the old parts to
    make Argos2, we would all say that ArgosArgos1.
  • -But since he did assemble the parts, it is not
    easy to decide whether Argos1 or Argos2 is
    identical to the original Argos.
  • -How would you decide?

13
Oak Trees and Ships
  • John Locke (1632-1704) compared personal identity
    with identity across time in case of other
    organic things e.g. plants or trees
  • -to be same plant over time does not require same
    constituent parts
  • -what it does require, thought Locke, is same
    organizational/functional structure
  • -the same might hold for persons i.e. we are
    same person over time if we preserve the same
    functional/organizational structure

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Souls and Elastic Balls
  • -Blackburn argues that immaterial souls would not
    help us understand personal identity across time
  • -we are able to count persons (as the same or
    different) without essential reference to
    immaterial souls
  • -also, we know nothing about the nature of
    immaterial souls (what are they like?)
  • -for all we know, they might be replaced every
    night as we sleep
  • -the same does not hold for
    organizational/functional structure

15
Personal Identity and Memory
  • Locke argued that memory was necessary and
    sufficient for personal identity across time
  • -A person, A, is the same as someone, B, at an
    earlier time if and only if A is conscious of Bs
    experiences (that is, if and only if A has
    memories of what B experienced)
  • -a consequence of this is we cannot survive
    complete amnesia
  • -also, in cases of partial amnesia, we would
    conclude that we are not same person

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Thomas Reids Objection
  • Reid argued that Lockes account was
    contradictory
  • -Consider three temporal stages of your life, A,
    B, and C.
  • -Suppose you won a prize at A, and that you can
    remember this at B.
  • -It follows that you are the same person at B
    that you were at A (A B).
  • -Suppose that at stage C, you can remember
    getting a job at stage B.
  • -It follows that you are the same person at C
    that you were at B (B C).
  • -Suppose, finally, that at stage C, you can
    remember nothing about stage A.
  • -It would therefore follow that you are not the
    same person at stage C that were at stage A.
  • -But identity is a transitive relation (If AB
    and BC, then AC)
  • -Therefore, if Lockes account is correct, at
    stage C you are not the same person as at stage
    A, but you also are the same person as at stage
    A.

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Humes Bundle Theory (Again)
  • Hume argued that if you dont observe the self in
    experience, then youve no right to say it
    exists.
  • -the self, on Humes view, is just an aggregate
    of perceptions (content but no container)
  • Problem Can we really make sense of idea of
    unowned perceptions
  • -perceptions seem to be features of persons just
    like dents are features of, e.g., cars.
  • -there certainly seems to be an I or ego that
    accompanies all perceptions (I am currently
    aware of a pain in my back. How would you say
    this without using egocentric words like I and
    my?)

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The Self as Organizing Principle of Experience
  • We might respond to Hume by rejecting the idea
    that self must be something substantial which we
    observe in introspection.
  • -Kant (1724-1804) argued that concept of a self
    was a necessary accompaniment of all experiences
  • -all experiences require a point of view (an
    implicit reference to who it is thats having the
    experience)
  • -see pp.138-139 of Think
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