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Title: Valuing Hard to Value Firms


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Valuing Hard to Value Firms
  • What is a hard to value firm?
  • Superfast revenue growth
  • No earnings (NI
  • No history
  • No comparables
  • Discounted Cash Flow is still the dominant model!
  • Value is still the PV of future cash flows
  • Alternative methods may use multiple approach
    (Price/Sales)

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Measuring Cash Flow 2 common measures
  • FCFF EBIT(1-t) - (Capital Expenditures -
    Depreciation Expense) - Change in Working Capital
  • gFCFF RR x Return on Capital
  • Value of Firm FCFF1/(WACC - gFCFF)
  • Value of Equity Value of Firm - Value of Debt
  • FCFE NI - (Capital Expenditures - Depreciation
    Expense) - Change in Working Capital - Change in
    Debt
  • gFCFE RR x Return on Equity
  • Value of Equity FCFE1/(k - gFCFE)

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Problems Negative Earnings
  • Cant estimate growth from current earnings!
  • Possible Solution? Normalize Earnings
  • Are earnings normally positive?
  • Firm had a bad year
  • Cyclical firm during a recession
  • How long with this last?
  • Average firms earnings over prior periods
  • Average firms ROC, ROE, or profit margins over
    prior periods
  • Use ROC, ROE, or margins for comparable firms

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Problems No History, No Comparables
  • No History? Use contemporaneous data form
    comparable firms
  • This is how software firms get valued at IPO
  • What are comparables?
  • Similar business
  • quality of information
  • industry life cycle
  • No Comparables? Use history!

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The Big Problem No Earnings, No History, No
Comparables
  • Stay focused on Discounted Cash Flows!
  • 1. Get the most recent financial info (TTM)
  • 2. Estimate expected revenue growth
  • past growth of firms revenues
  • growth rate for overall market firm services
  • recognize barriers to entry, competitive
    advantages
  • 3. Estimate sustainable operating margin
  • what will operating margin look like when revenue
    growth stabilizes?

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The Big Problem No Earnings, No History, No
Comparables
  • 4. Reinvestment needs
  • RR gEBIT x ROC
  • assume net Cap. Expense and change in WC will
    grow with revenue or that revenue growth lags
    reinvestment.
  • 5. Risk Parameters and Discount Rate
  • Must estimate Beta for firms equity ke
  • Must estimate kd (use bond ratings)
  • Must estimate target capital structure
  • ke and kd will change as growth stabilizes

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The Big Problem No Earnings, No History, No
Comparables
  • 6. Firm valuation and equity valuation
  • forecast FCFF to point of long-term, stable
    growth (at industry average)
  • Value at t FCFFt1/(WACC - g)
  • Value of firm PV of all estimated FCFF
  • VEquity VFirm - VDebt
  • Share value Vequity/No. of Shares

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Key Inputs to DCF approach
  • What matters most in valuation of young,
    high-growth firm with negative earnings?
  • Estimates of revenue growth
  • estimates of sustainable profit margins
  • time to reach stable, long-term growth

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An Inductive approach to Valuation
  • Observations
  • Amazon is currently valued at 35/sh.
  • Shares outstanding 356.17 million
  • Market Cap. 12.466 billion
  • Most recent 12 mo. revenues 2,465.7 million
    (TTM)
  • Assumptions
  • Amazon will achieve a net profit margin of 5
  • On current revenue, that makes 123.29 million NI
  • Beta 2, km 12, RFR 6

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An Inductive approach to Valuation
  • kAMZN 6 2(12-6) 18
  • If Net Income does NOT grow
  • Value of equity 123.285/.18
  • 684.92
  • Divided by 356.17 shares 1.92/share!
  • A constant growth model would need to use a
    growth rate of 16.8 to get current market value.
  • Is this reasonable?
  • (Note Weve assumed that NI FCFE)

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A Price/Sales approach
  • Amazons P/S 12,466/2,465.7 5.06x
  • Yahoos P/S 37,630/998.1 37.7x
  • Is Yahoo 7 times richer than Amazon?
  • Is this a valid comparison?
  • Amazon to Barnes and Noble?
  • Yahoo to AOL?

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Summary
  • It is difficult to value hard to value firms!
  • More art and less science
  • Can develop DCF or multiplier model
  • either approach requires many assumptions
  • Can value firms on a relative basis
  • may be best we can hope for!
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