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Title: NMWG GGF10 Berlin March 2004


1
Network Measurements Working Group
  • Chairs Richard Hughes-Jones
  • Brian Tierney
  • Eric Boyd
  • ISP Area Meeting GGF10 Berlin

2
Charter History
  • Network Measurements Working Group (NMWG) is part
    of the Performance and Information Systems area.
  • Formed 2001 after a BOF at GGF 2
  • 1st NMWG Frascati GGF3
  • Mailing list is nm-wg_at_gridforum.org
  • Web-pageshttp//www-didc.lbl.gov/NMWGhttp//for
    ge.gridforum.org/projects/nm-wg/
  • Charter revised (slightly!) in 2003

3
Current work Mar 2004
  • Hierarchy document
  • Discussions with input from DAMED CIM GGF
    Groups
  • Network Measurement Tools Classification /
    Properties Note
  • http//www-didc.lbl.gov/NMWG/NM-WG-tools.html
  • Links between NM-WG
  • Internet 2 Tools List http//e2epi.internet2.edu
    /tools_list.html
  • CAIDA Tool Taxonomy http//www.caida.org/tools/ta
    xonomy/performance.xml
  • Work in progress to define the Request schema
  • Work in progress to define the Response schema
  • Links with DAMED
  • Discussions with CIM Julia/Andrea made CIM
    scheme showing how NM-WG could fit
  • Trial Implementations and Proof of Concept trials
  • piPEs experience with new schema
  • SLAC experience with new schema
  • Link to GHPN-RG work on Network Services

4
Status of the Hierarchy Document
  • A Hierarchy of Network Performance
    Characteristics for Grid Applications and
    Services
  • Document defines terms relations
  • Network characteristics
  • Measurement methodologies
  • Observation
  • Discusses Nodes Paths
  • For each Characteristic
  • Defines the meaning
  • Attributes that SHOULD be included
  • Issues to consider when making an observation
  • Status
  • Originally submitted to GFSG as Community
    Practice Documentdraft-ggf-nmwg-hierarchy-00.pdf
    Jul 2003
  • Revised to Proposed Recommendation
    http//www-didc.lbl.gov/NMWG/docs/draft-ggf-nmwg-h
    ierarchy-02.pdf 7 Jan 04
  • Now in 60 day Public comment from 28 Jan 04 18
    days to go.

5
Status of the Schemata
  • Request Schema
  • Ask for results / ask to make test
  • Schema Requirements Document made
  • Use DAMED style namese.g. path.delay.oneWay
  • Send Char. Time, Subject node
    pathMethodology, Stats
  • Response Schema
  • Interpret results
  • Includes Observation environment
  • Much work in progress
  • Common components
  • Drafts almost done
  • 2 (3) proof-of-concept implementations
  • Implementations using XML-RPC, (Document /Literal
    )

6
NM-WG Milestones as of GGF9
  • Jun 2003 Detailed discussion of Schemas document
  • Jun 2003 GGF 8 Seattle
  • Jul 2003 Submit hierarchy document to GFSG
  • Oct 2003 Draft of Schema document
  • Oct 2003 Set of Use Case queries
  • Oct 2003 Draft XML
  • Oct 2003 f2f discussion on XML and Schema
  • Oct 2003 GGF 9 Chicago
  • Dec 3003 Agreed version of Schema document (data
    model)
  • Jan 2003 Create XML Schema Input and Output
  • Xxx 2003 ?? OGSI Spec. ??
  • Xxx 2004 Initial implementations and Proof of
    Concept Demos
  • Feb 2004 GGF 10 Berlin
  • Jan 2003 Refine XML Schema Input and Output
  • Xxx 2004 Implementations and Proof of Concept
    Demos
  • Jun 2004 GGF 11 Hawaii

7
NM-WG Milestones
  • July 2002 GGF 5 Edinburgh
  • Jul 2002 Begin work on tools classification
  • Oct 2002 GGF 6 Chicago
  • Oct 2002 Near-final draft of characteristics
    hierarchy document to GFSG
  • Mar 2003 GGF 7 Tokyo
  • Mar 2003 Finish work on tools classification web
    page
  • Mar 2003 Begin work on schema document
  • Jun 2003 GGF 8 Seattle
  • Apr 2003 Submit hierarchy document to GFSG
  • Jul 2003 Submit hierarchy document to GFSG
  • Oct 2003 Draft of Schema document
  • Nov 2003 Draft of Schema document
  • Oct 2003 GGF 9 Chicago
  • Mar 2004 GGF 10 Berlin
  • Jun 2004 GGF 11 Hawaii
  • Jun 2004 Submit schema document to GFSG
  • Blue GGF Milestones

8
NM-WG Milestones GGF10
  • Oct 2003 Draft of Schema document
  • Oct 2003 Set of Use Case queries
  • Oct 2003 Draft XML
  • Oct 2003 f2f discussion on XML and Schema
  • Oct 2003 GGF 9 Chicago
  • Dec 3003 Agreed version of Schema document (data
    model)
  • Jan 2003 Create XML Schema Request
    Report/Response
  • Xxx 2003 ?? OGSI Spec. ??
  • Jan 2004 Initial implementations and Proof of
    Concept Demos
  • Mar 2004 GGF 10 Berlin
  • Mar 2004 Refine XML Schema Input and Output
  • Xxx 2004 Implementations and Proof of Concept
    Demos
  • Jun 2004 GGF 11 Hawaii
  • Jun 2004 NM_RG BoF
  • Jun 2004 Submit schema document to GFSG
  • Blue GGF Milestones

9
Issues / Needs
  • Schemata Implementations and Proof of Concept
    trials very important.
  • Concern on WS-RF we dont want to re-invent
  • Proposed new Network Measurements Research Group
    BoF in Hawaii
  • Link to GHPN-RG work on Network Services
  • We feel this is positive.
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