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Title: WP2 workshop, NIESR, November 24-25, 2005


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WP2 workshop, NIESR, November 24-25, 2005
  • Volume measures of labour input

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Reconciling data from different sources
  • Which source to use establishment surveys,
    labour force surveys, other (social security
    statistics)
  • Issues for discussion
  • Options were to impose the same type of source on
    all partners or allow each to decide on the best
    source for their own country?
  • In the latter can we adjust data to ensure
    definitions are comparable across countries?

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Reconciling data from different sources UK
example
  • Large number of sources Employment Census AES
    (establishment), Annual Business Inquiry ABI
    (establishment), Labour Force Survey LFS
    (individual), Social security data SS
    (individual)
  • Data availability
  • AES from 1978 LFS from 1984 ABI from
    1998 SS 1970-1978
  • All series at least 2 digit SIC some 3 digit
  • Sufficient detail to generate full EUKLEMS series

4
Comparison LFS (primary jobs) and AES, annual
growth 1996-01 41 industries
5
Comparison LFS (primary jobs) and AES, annual
growth 1996-01 20 industries
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Comparison LFS (primary jobs) and AES, ratio
AES/LFS, average 1996-01 41 industries
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Comparison LFS (primary jobs) and AES, ratio
AES/LFS, average 1996-01, 20 industries
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Reconciling data from different sources UK
  • Attempt to redefine in terms of common
    definitions
  • LFS allocate second jobs to industry where labour
    is employed - Mostly in services

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Reconciling data from different sources
questions
  • To what extent have consortium members found
    similar discrepancies between sources?
  • Which source should be used?
  • As control totals NA if available, but what is
    this?
  • To divide by industry small sample sizes
    implies more variation
  • LFS coefficient of variation significantly
    negatively correlated with sample size
  • Should we combine data sources one as control
    total for broad sectors and use shares of
    sub-sectors in broad sectors from another source
    to disaggregate
  • How do we decide what is a small sample

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Industry concordances
  • Options for concording
  • Optimal get NSI to do it
  • Consistent construct weights based on data for
    an overlapping year
  • Fudge When data are not available for an
    overlapping year. Use whatever information is
    available to get an approximate concordance
    between industry, then use growth rates in
    another series to construct an overlapping year,
    to ensure no jumps

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Industry concordances
  • Consistent construct weights based on data for
    an overlapping year
  • Simplest case

Old SIC
New SIC
X
Y Z
X Y Z, so weights are Y/ (YZ) and Z/(YZ)
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Industry concordances
  • Consistent Often more complicated

Old SIC
New SIC
X
Y Z
T
W
Set of simultaneous equations but may need
interative procedures if sufficiently
complicated As long as overlapping year data
exist there should not be jumps in the data
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Illustration of fudge method
Time series for industry x
break year
t-1
t
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Industry concordances
  • UK example three SICs, 1968, 1980, 1992
  • LFS no overlapping year
  • AES some overlapping years , e.g. 1990-93 on both
    SIC80 and SIC92, but for detailed (3 digit
    industries) data only available for GB.
  • Fudge for LFS could use growth in AES for
    overlapping year to infer an overlapping year in
    LFS. (note levels in AES and LFS differ so cannot
    use AES weights applied to LFS)

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Industry concordances
  • Issues for discussion
  • To what extent are industry concordances an
    issue?
  • What methods have colleagues used to overcome
    problems?
  • Can prodsys help?

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Historical data how to fill gaps
  • Look for additional data censuses, surveys
  • If not available what are the options
  • If earlier data are more aggregated then can
    assume growth in sub-industries equal growth in
    aggregate
  • If no historical data available then what do we
    do?
  • Assume growth rates the same as for aggregate
    economy?
  • Assume growth rates the same as other variable in
    EUKLEMS dataset?
  • Assume growth rate same as similar industry in
    similar country?

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Data delivery
  • Deadline for revised data January 15
  • Require prodsys readable form
  • Important source of information
  • Crucial for productivity calculations
  • DOCUMENTATION
  • Sources
  • Assumptions
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