Title: WP2 workshop, NIESR, November 24-25, 2005
1WP2 workshop, NIESR, November 24-25, 2005
- Volume measures of labour input
2Reconciling data from different sources
- Which source to use establishment surveys,
labour force surveys, other (social security
statistics) - Issues for discussion
- Options were to impose the same type of source on
all partners or allow each to decide on the best
source for their own country? - In the latter can we adjust data to ensure
definitions are comparable across countries?
3Reconciling data from different sources UK
example
- Large number of sources Employment Census AES
(establishment), Annual Business Inquiry ABI
(establishment), Labour Force Survey LFS
(individual), Social security data SS
(individual) - Data availability
- AES from 1978 LFS from 1984 ABI from
1998 SS 1970-1978 - All series at least 2 digit SIC some 3 digit
- Sufficient detail to generate full EUKLEMS series
4Comparison LFS (primary jobs) and AES, annual
growth 1996-01 41 industries
5Comparison LFS (primary jobs) and AES, annual
growth 1996-01 20 industries
6Comparison LFS (primary jobs) and AES, ratio
AES/LFS, average 1996-01 41 industries
7Comparison LFS (primary jobs) and AES, ratio
AES/LFS, average 1996-01, 20 industries
8Reconciling data from different sources UK
- Attempt to redefine in terms of common
definitions - LFS allocate second jobs to industry where labour
is employed - Mostly in services
9Reconciling data from different sources
questions
- To what extent have consortium members found
similar discrepancies between sources? - Which source should be used?
- As control totals NA if available, but what is
this? - To divide by industry small sample sizes
implies more variation - LFS coefficient of variation significantly
negatively correlated with sample size - Should we combine data sources one as control
total for broad sectors and use shares of
sub-sectors in broad sectors from another source
to disaggregate - How do we decide what is a small sample
10Industry concordances
- Options for concording
- Optimal get NSI to do it
- Consistent construct weights based on data for
an overlapping year - Fudge When data are not available for an
overlapping year. Use whatever information is
available to get an approximate concordance
between industry, then use growth rates in
another series to construct an overlapping year,
to ensure no jumps
11Industry concordances
- Consistent construct weights based on data for
an overlapping year - Simplest case
Old SIC
New SIC
X
Y Z
X Y Z, so weights are Y/ (YZ) and Z/(YZ)
12Industry concordances
- Consistent Often more complicated
Old SIC
New SIC
X
Y Z
T
W
Set of simultaneous equations but may need
interative procedures if sufficiently
complicated As long as overlapping year data
exist there should not be jumps in the data
13Illustration of fudge method
Time series for industry x
break year
t-1
t
14Industry concordances
- UK example three SICs, 1968, 1980, 1992
- LFS no overlapping year
- AES some overlapping years , e.g. 1990-93 on both
SIC80 and SIC92, but for detailed (3 digit
industries) data only available for GB. - Fudge for LFS could use growth in AES for
overlapping year to infer an overlapping year in
LFS. (note levels in AES and LFS differ so cannot
use AES weights applied to LFS)
15Industry concordances
- Issues for discussion
- To what extent are industry concordances an
issue? - What methods have colleagues used to overcome
problems? - Can prodsys help?
16Historical data how to fill gaps
- Look for additional data censuses, surveys
- If not available what are the options
- If earlier data are more aggregated then can
assume growth in sub-industries equal growth in
aggregate - If no historical data available then what do we
do? - Assume growth rates the same as for aggregate
economy? - Assume growth rates the same as other variable in
EUKLEMS dataset? - Assume growth rate same as similar industry in
similar country?
17Data delivery
- Deadline for revised data January 15
- Require prodsys readable form
- Important source of information
- Crucial for productivity calculations
- DOCUMENTATION
- Sources
- Assumptions