Title: After all the coding is done '''
1After all the coding is done ...
- Harry Ganzeboom
- Center for Survey Research Academia Sinica
- July 24-25 2008
2Scaling occupations
- Detailed occupation codes have various uses, but
for most applications they are condensed again
into social status scales. - There is a great variety of national and
international social status scales and ways they
are constructed. - Main division
- Nominal categories EGP (Goldthorpe), Wright,
Esping-Andersen. - Continuous scales Prestige, Socio-economic Index
SEI - Each of these have their own theoretical
backgrounds. - The varieties of social status scales can only be
compared when you have access to detailed
occupations (and more).
3Tools for ISCO-88
- http//home.fsw.vu.nl/HBG.Ganzeboom/ISMF
- This webpage contains several useful SPSS tools
to work with ISCO-88 codes - ADD VALUE LABELS for all occupations
- RECODE for EGP social classses
- RECODE for SIOPS Treimans prestige scale
- RECODE for ISEI Ganzeboom et al.s SEI scale
- Note that the tools will work (A) for multiple
occupations, and (B) for all levels of detail of
coding (providing you have used trailing zeroes). - There are also tools for ISCO-68 and will be for
ISCO-08.
4ISEI (1)
- A SEI socio-economic index or Duncan score
scales occupation by averaging status
characteristics of job holders, most often their
education and earnings. - Often the criterion information is taken from
census data. - ISEI was created for ISCO-88 using criterium
information for educational and earnings ranks on
a world-wide sample of 70.000 men from 17
countries.
5ISEI (2)
- ISEI was constructed as an optimal scaling of
(detailed) occupations as an intervening variable
between education and earnings Occupation is
what you do to convert your qualifications into
income. - Metric between 10-90, but this is entirely
arbitrary. - ISEI was originally developed for ISCO-68, but
its second generation version (for ISCO-88) has
become widely used, also outside sociology.
6Prestige
- Prestige popular evalation of occupational
status, i.e. you ask respondents to value
occupations. - Many local versions have been integrated by
Treiman (1977) into the Standard International
Occupational Prestige Score SIOPS, related to
ISCO-68. - The version on my website is a mapping of the
original SIOPS to ISCO-88.
7EGP
- EGP class typology combines detailed occupation
codes with measures on self-employment and
supervising status. - This leads to a nominal (partly ordered) set of
distinctions 12-10-7-5 categories. - EGP has become the de facto standard for
stratification research. Much used.
8Relationships EGP, ISEI, SIOPS
- All these measures are strongly associated. You
need a lot of data if you are going to argue
about the differences. - EGP and ISEI resemble each other more than SIOPS.
- SIOPS prestige is theoretically the best idea,
but it does not work well in practice. - I prefer to use ISEI for my further discussion
here.
9Checks to be run ...
- Use value labels to see whether the coders have
indeed entered only valid codes. - It is surprising to learn how often this check
has not been run! - It is even more surprising to learn how often
this is the only check ever run!!!
10MTMM-models
- Multi-Trait Multi-Method models were developed in
psychometrics to estimate the reliability and
validity of attitude items. - The idea is that you can learn about reliability
and validity (both!!) when you apply multiple
methods (e.g. respons formats) to multiple
related traits (e.g. personality
characteristics. - Remember
- Reliability lack of random errors
- Validity lack of systematic error
11MTMM model
ROCC
FOCC
FISEI1
FISEI2
RISEI1
RISEI2
12Estimating MTMM for two coders
- The elementary MTMM model for two traits
(occupations) and two methods (coders) has 7
parameters. - The data generate only 6 degrees of freedom.
- However, by contraining (equalizing) the
parameters, we can find the following interesting
information - How random error each coder has coded relative to
the other. - Whether FOCC and ROCC differ in the amount of
random error. - How much systematic bias each coder has added to
their codes. - Degree of attention brought about by the coding
unreliability corrected (disattenuatud)
correlation between FOCC and ROCC.
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14What are we learning by staring at these
correlations?
- Within-coder correlation at best 0.81. This means
0.90 index of reliability. - Coders agree slightly less on fathers occ than
respondents. Loss is around 0.97. - Within- and cross-coder intergenerational
correlations are around 0.33 and fairly
homogenous. - Coder 1 has created slightly more consistency
between father and respondent.
15MTMM assumptions
- Coders are equally reliable for fathers and
respondents. - However, fathers occupations may be easier to
code (less) reliably than respondents
occupations. - Systematic error is the same for all coders.
16If estimated by SEM (Lisrel), we learn
- Reliability coder 1/coder 2 0.915 / 0.886 (NS).
- Reliability FOCC/ROCC 0.975 / 1.000 (NS).
- Coder unique consistency 0.015 (significant).
- Corrected intergenerational correlation 0.413.
- The interesting conclusion for this (Italian)
example is clearly the corrected
intergenerational correlation. Note that this is
even so with high coder reliability!
17Conclusions
- Even if coders do a decent and honest job, they
introduce random and systematic error. - These errors are in the coding process, not by
the data collection! - If coders introduce only 10 error, they bring
down the intergenerational correlation by 20!
18More sources of measurement problems .. and their
repairs
- It is important to see that coder errors are just
one single source of bad measurement. - It might be true that even bigger trouble is
created by what the respondents say. - If you want to assess measurement error at the
respondents level, you need to ask the question
twice - Within the same interview
- From different sources (e.g. spouses about each
other). - At diffent interviews, e.g. in panel designs.
19Another source of error the respondent.
- Note that all of the above is about errors
generated in the coding proces. - Occupational measures also contain other errors,
most prominently generated by the respondent /
interviewer. - This type of error can only be estimated by
asking the question again - In the same interview.
- From a different source (e.g spouses about each
other). - In a different interview (panel).
20Can you ask the occupation question again in the
same interview?
- Yes, an acceptable way for respondents is to ask
an open question (see above) and a closed
question. - Closed questions may not be as valid and flexible
as open questions, but they may be more reliable.
At least they do not suffer from coding error... - This type of multiple measurement has been tried
in ISSP87 for four countries and six Dutch
surveys. It will be replicated in ISSP09.
21Main conclusions on double measurement
- Crude closed questions are slightly more reliable
than detailed open question. - Crude questions suffer slightly more from
systematic error than detailed questions - Correlated error (echo effects)
- Education bias.
- However, the main boost comes from using multiple
indicators, that leads to disattenuation.
Estimates from ISSP and Dutch data suggest
measurement relationships of around 0.85. This
would suggest that coding error is the major
source of random error.
22ISCO 2008
- ILO has recently revised the ISCO to ISCO-08.
- Current situation is that the new classification
has been fixed and published. - However, there are no definitions or manuals
available yet. - For previous versions it laster 1-2 years before
these became available.
23Stated goals of ISCO-08
- Bring occupational classification in line with
changed technologies and division of labor (e.g.
ICT/IT). - Make ISCO applicable in a wider range of
countries and economies. - To mend often noted problems with the application
of ISCO-88. - To produce a minor revision, not a totally
different classification.
24Problems with ISCO-88 (1)
- Unlike its predecessor (ISCO-68), ISCO-88 is
primarily skill oriented. However, in practice
the major group differentiation does not closely
correspond to major ISCED (education) levels. - ISCO-68 was more sensitive to employment status
(self-employment) and industry.
25Problems with ISCO-88 (2)
- Despite its stated principles, it is hard to pay
tribute to skill level differentiation in manual
work. ISCO-88 differentiates between (7000) Craft
workers, and (8000) Machine Operators, which is
similar, but not the same as Skilled versus
Semi-skilled Manual Workers. - In addition, many occupations occur both in the
7000 and 8000 categories.
26Problems with ISCO-88 (3)
- ISCO-88 argued that occupation and employment
status are different things and need to be
measured separately. - As a consequences some employers became
classified with their employees, in particular
there is no distinction between managing
proprietors and managers, and not between working
proprietors and their employees.
27Problems with ISCO-88 (4)
- Managers were organized into three levels
- Corporate managers
- Department managers Production, Support
- General Small enterprise managers.
- The primary distinction here is the number of
managers in an organisation, which is not often
available in data. - It is somewhat hard to classify work supervisors
Foremen in ISCO-88.
28Problems with ISCO-88 (5)
- Farmers are hard to classify in ISCO-88, because
they appear in 5 places - Operations Department Manager (1211)
- Small Establishment Manager (1311)
- Skilled Agricultural Worker (6100)
- Subsistence Farmer (6200)
- Farm Laborer (9200)
- None of this corresponds closely to distinctions
made in farm work in national classifications.
29Problems with ISCO-88 (6)
- ISCO-88 is overly broad in (5000) Service and
Sales Occupations. - In particular (5200) Sales Workers is very
undifferentiated.
30Problems with ISCO-88 (7)
- It is hard to find fitting codes for crude
occupations factory worker, skilled worker,
foreman, semi-skilled worker, apprentice. - However, in some instances, there is no problem
if one used major and sub-major groups codes
e.g. (9000) for Unskilled Worker.
31ISCO-08 versus ISCO-88
- ISCO-08 groups
- 10 major
- 34 sub-major
- 120 minor
- 403 unit
- Total 567 groups
- ISCO-88 groups
- 10 major
- 28 sub-major
- 115 minor
- 363 unit
- Total 516 groups
32Mergers and Splits
- Mergers Many-to-one recodes.
- Splits One-to-one recodes.
- Mergers splits Many-to-many recodes.
- All of these occur when comparing ISCO88 to
ISCO08. - When we crosswalk from 88 to 08 (and have no
further information), only mergers are relevant. - When we have ISCO88 and further information (like
original verbatim info of original source
classification), we also need to consider splits.
33Mergers
34Splits
35Major groups
- 10 major groups Essentially unchanged, with
minor changes of titles. - However If minor groups have been moved between
major groups (see below), this de facto changes
major groups too! - The major group that is likely most affected by
such shifts is (5000) and in particular (5200)
Sales Workers, that now contains a number of
Elementary Sales Occupations.
36Sub-major groups (2 digits)
- 34 sub-major groups expanded from 28 major
groups. - Truly NEW
- (0100, 0200, 0300) Army ranks (3x)
- (9400) Food Preparation Workers
- Other new major groups are upgraded or
merged minor groups. Roughly speaking, about
half of the sub-major groups has remained the
same, the other half has a different composition
than in 1988.
37ICT occupations
- Altogether, ISCO-08 distinguishes ca. 20 ICT
occupations, that occur at several levels - (2500) ICT Professionals (11x)
- (3500) ICT Technicians (5x)
- (1330) ICT Service Manager (1x)
- (2356) ICT Teachers (1x)
- (2434) ICT Sales Professionals (1x)
- Neither (2500) nor (3500) are new actually both
existed already in ISCO-68!
38Problem 1 Imperfect skill orientation
- Some ambiguities between (7000) Craft Workers,
and (8000) Machine Operators have been removed. - An NEW feature is the distinction between (8100)
Stationary Machine Operators, and (3130) Process
Control Technicians, which probably refers to the
complexity of the process / machine controlled /
operated.
39Problem 2 Employment status
- Although somewhat indirect, ISCO-08 has better
fitting codes for Large Entrepreneurs and
Foreman. - There is an ambiguous distinction between (1420)
Retail and Wholesale Trade Managers, and (5221)
Shop Keepers.
40Problem 3 Managers
- The implicit reference to firm size (i.e. number
of departments) has disappeared, the same things
are now referred to by main activity. - At the sub-major group level Corporate Managers
are now longer grouped with department managers,
but with (high) Government Officials. - Major changes occur at the 3-digit and 4 digit
level. - (1330) ICT Services Managers
- (1340) Professional Services Managers (9x)
41Problem 4 Farmers
- Self-employed farmers can still be coded in as
(1310) Managers in Agriculture etc. - However, it also remains possible to code them
with (6100) Market-oriented Skilled Agricultural
Workers. - Interestingly, a NEW feature is that (6200)
Subsistence Farmers has now four minor groups.
42Problem 5 Crude Sales / Service
- Sales salespersons are split
- (5221) Shop Keepers
- (5222) Shop Supervisors
- (5223) Shop Sales Assistants
- This is an improvement.
- Also, more levels and locations of sales (market,
stall, cashiers) have been regrouped in the
sub-major group (5200). - This has made the sub-major group even more
heterogeneous than it was.
43Interesting ..
- Cooks are now split up into
- (3434) Chef a Culinary Associate Professional
- (5120) Cooks
- (9400) Food Preparation Workers
- (9411) Fast Food Preparers
- (9412) Kitchen Helper
- I am very happy with this...
44Problem 6 Crude occupations
- Some of the new features mend this problem
- Foreman can now be classified as (3120)
Production Supervisor. - Shop keeper can go in two places.
- Skilled Worked can be more conveniently coded
as (7000).
45Interesting ...
- Specialized Secretaries and Office Managers are
now in (3000) Associate Professionals. - Some new occupations
- (2230) Traditional and Complementary Health
Professional - (5245) Service Station Attendant
- (7234) Bicycle Repairman
- (9334) Shelf Filler
- (9412) Kitchen Helper
- Disappeared
- (2121) Mathematician, Statistician
- (6142) Charcoal Burner
46How can we reclassify existing data?
- A simple conversions of ISCO-88 into ISCO-08 is
not possible. - Conversion tool will become available, that will
do two things at the same time - Straight recode of ISCO-88 into ISCO-08 (best
fit). Truncate trailing decimals, if this is the
only thing that you want or can do. - Trailing decimals suggest the amount of
alternatives (splits). You will have to consult a
separate document to list these options. For this
to be usefull you will need original strings or
classifications.