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Title: Elective Patients Should Be Extubated Awake


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Elective Patients Should Be Extubated Awake?
  • Dr Harry McFarlane

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Can we extubate patients when deeply
anaesthetised?
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Yes We Can!
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1999 Survey Anesthesiologists
  • Deep Extubation
  • Rarely 16.2
  • More Frequently 64.1
  • Never 19.7
  • 58.3 response J Clin Anaesth 199911(6)445-442

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Indications
  • Avoid Consequences of awakening with tube
  • Coughing
  • Tachycardia
  • Hypertension
  • Bronchospasm
  • Laryngospasm
  • Increased pressure in cavities
  • Good Surgical Result

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Little Known Facts About Coughing
  • Modified valsalva
  • Expiratory velocities of 28000 cms/sec or 500 mls
    /hr
  • 85 of speed of sound
  • Intrathoracic pressure of 300mmHg
  • Can generate 1-25 Joules of energy
  • 1/1000 British Thermal Unit

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Contraindications
  • Potential Aspiration
  • Potential Obstruction
  • Existing
  • Acquired
  • Hazards associated with raised PCO2
  • Unfamiliarity

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Alternatives?
  • Modify Response
  • TIVA
  • REMI

Well Hello
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Remifentanil
  • clinically versatile opioid
  • unless little or no postoperative pain is
    anticipated.
  • CNS Drugs.200418(15)1085
  • does not seem to offer any advantage for
    lengthy, major interventions but may be useful
    for selected patients
  • Anaesthesia 2007 62(12)1266

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Pain Relief after Epidural Excellent 230
(36) Very Good 190 (30) Intermediate 87
(13) Poor 133 (21) Anaesthesia
200156(1)75-81
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The Anaesthetic Room
  • Peaceful Haven (Quiet please)
  • Patient comfortable
  • Fully monitored
  • Everyone concentrating
  • Everything to hand
  • Fully anaesthetised at intubation

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Waking up in theatre
  • Level of noise goes up
  • Laughter! Relaxation!
  • The disappearing assistant
  • Monitoring off
  • Move patient

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Some interesting observations
  • Hoarseness occurs in 14 - 50 of patients
  • Permanent in 1
  • Laryngeal injury 33 of all airway claims
  • Tube size
  • Cuff design
  • Cuff pressure
  • Sex
  • Type/duration of surgery
  • Movement of tube
  • Anesthesiology 2003, 98(5)1049-1056

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Intubation with or without relaxant2 groups of
40 patients
  • Hoarseness 44 vs 16
  • Days with hoarseness 25 vs 6
  • Vocal cord sequelae 42 vs 8
  • Days with sequelae 50 vs 5
  • Anesthesiolgy 2003, 98(5)1049-1056

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More interesting observationson respiratory
complications
  • Induction 4.6
  • Immediate post extubation 12.6
  • Recovery Room 9.5
  • BJA 199880767-775

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And more
  • 60 patients 3 groups of 20
  • Awake Cough 18 Desat 2
  • Anaesthetised Obstruction 17 Desat 1
  • LMA Cough 3 Desat 0
  • No respiratory complications
  • 2 in awake group
  • 3 in anaesthetised group
  • 16 in LMA group
  • Anaesthesia 1998 53(6)540-544

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Basic Anaesthetic Skills
  • Timing of extubation awake or deep is part of the
    art of anaesthesia
  • Deep extubation requires basic airway skill
  • Is the LMA a substitute for basic airway skill?

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Recovery
  • Deep extubation Premature extubation?
  • Are we devolving responsibility too early
  • Are problems merely postponed?
  • Does your recovery room practice ABC or CBA?

We expect our patients to be awake in this
recovery room Mr Bond
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Yes We Can!
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Yes We Can!
  • Selected Patients
  • Selected Surgery
  • Nasopharnygeal Airway
  • Recovery Room Staff on your side
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