Title: Telepathology to Support Patient Care at Remote Facilities
1Telepathology to Support Patient Care at Remote
Facilities
- Bruce E. Dunn, M.D.
- Chief Pathologist, Veterans Integrated Service
Network (VISN) 12 - Professor and Vice-Chair, Dept of Pathology,
Medical College of Wisconsin
2Conflict-of-interest statement
- Bruce E. Dunn, MD has no financial interest in
any commercially-available telepathology system
321 Veterans Integrated Service Networks
(VISNs)
4Hospitals and CBOCs in VISN 12
5Challenge Replace an On-Site Pathologist at Iron
Mountain with Off-Site Pathologists Located in
Milwaukee
- Notified late summer 1995 that part-time IM
pathologist to retire in summer 1996 - Iron Mtn Chief of Staff requested that Milwaukee
pathologists provide telepathology services - Tele-Radiology and tele-nuclear medicine services
implemented by Milwaukee Imaging Service
6Functions of On-Site Pathologist
- Surgical Pathology
- Support small, but active general surgery service
- Good, but limited on-site histology lab functions
- Frozen sections requested occasionally
- Nuclear Medicine case diagnosis
- Clinical Pathology
- Transfusion medicine
- Autopsy pathology
- Clinical consultation
- Administrative activities
- Laboratory oversight
- Medical Executive Committee
7Robotic Telepathology (TP) at Iron Mtn
- Late 1995 early 1996 Orientation/feasibility
studies - Summer 1996 Full implementation of commercial
hybrid dynamic store/forward system operated by
two senior pathologists in Milwaukee - Feasibility study performed - published in 1997
8Three Phases of Robotic TP at Iron Mtn
- Phase I mid-1996 early 1999
- Two senior surgical pathologists exclusively read
cases with extensive documentation - 2,200 cases available for TP
- Summary published in 1999
- Phase II early 1999 end of 2004
- One senior pathologist retired three junior
pathologists hired - Consolidation in VISN resulted in increased AP
workload - 5,841 cases available for TP
- Phase III 2005 present (through June 2007)
- One original senior pathologist and two new
pathologists - ASAP ImagingTM implemented
- 2,704 cases available for TP through June 2007
9Technical Aspects of Workflow
- Tissue grossed in Iron Mtn by experienced PA
(tele-gross imaging available) - Slides processed by Iron Mtn histotechnician
- Telepathology systems linked up
- PA places slides onto stage in Iron Mtn
- Pathologist controls robotic microscope remotely
from Milwaukee
10Current and Future
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14Current and Future
15Current and Future Non-Robotic
Telepathology System
16Surgical Pathology TAT for Iron Mountain VA
before and after Robotic Telepathology
TP used only to cover on-site pathologist absence
Histotech/PA both involved in TP
PA only involved in TP
PA begins on-line transcription and correction
TP implemented completely dictations streamlined
Iron Mtn. Transcriptionist retires
17Deferral to Light Microscopy
- Reasons for deferral case difficulty, need for
consultation, special or immuno stains, short
staffing - If case referred to Milwaukee due to computer
unavailability (malfunction or upgrade), or the
assigned pathologist was not yet competent to use
telepathology, then case not counted as a
deferral
18Discordance Rates by Pathologist
- Deferred cases not included
- Major discordance
- Benign versus malignant
- Different patient outcome or therapy
- Report modified and clinician called
19Comparison by Phase (June 2007)
- Phase I II III
Total - Total opportunities 2,200 5,841
2,704 10,745 - No. deferred 56 1,205 365
1,626 - Deferral rate () 2.5 20.6
13.5 15.1 - TP cases 2,144 4,636 2,339
9,119 - Maj discord 7 21 5 33
- Discordance () 0.33 0.45 0.21
0.36 -
20Summary
- Pathologist-specific discordance rates range from
0.12 to 1.03, with median of 0.28 and overall
rate of 0.36 - Despite extensive experience in use of
telepathology occasional discordances occur - Longer time required to read cases by TP than by
LM - All TP cases continue to be reviewed by LM in
Milwaukee
21Telepathology and the Autopsy
- Send key images electronically to attending along
with Preliminary Autopsy Diagnosis - Submit tissue sections from a distance
- Documentation of sections
- Autopsy conference presentations
- Images stored in Computerized Patient Record
System
22How Pathologist Functions are Covered from a
Distance Iron Mtn
- Surgical Pathology robotic telepathology
- Clinical Pathology
- Transfusion medicine phone calls
- Autopsy pathology pathologist travels
- Micro/peripheral smears - telepathology
- Clinical consultation phone calls
- Administrative activities
- Laboratory oversight delegation, phone calls
- Review CAP Proficiency Testing reviewed on site
- Medical Executive Committee pathologist
travels, phone calls
23VISN 12 Telepathology Network
NRM
Iron Mtn
RM
Tomah
Iron Mtn
Tomah
DR
GS
POP
POP
DR
NRM
Milwaukee
Madison
Milw
Madison
DR
POP
POP
Interface to VistA
WAN
Westside
NRM
Hines Micro
Multi-site conferencing
N. Chicago
DR
POP
POP
Dedicated Server
NRM
NRM
Hines
North Chicago
GS
Hines
Chicago
GS
POP
POP
DR
KEY POP point of presence VistA VA
computerized patient record
VHA WAN Internet
VHA WAN Internet
24Consolidation of Microbiology Functions
- Specimens accessioned at primary labs, read by
bar code at core labs - Plate, incubate and send (portable incubators)
- Telepathology to view gram stains, early culture
growth and show cultures to clinicians - Core lab microbiology staff enter results
directly into primary lab computer - (Microbiology support in Iraq conflict)
25Ear KOH Prep
26North Chicago Tele-Infectious Disease Rounds
- Consolidation of NC Microbiology to Milwaukee
- No on-site Microbiology training for ID fellows
- Didactic/clinical sessions by Milwaukee
Microbiology supervisor/pathologist - ID staff and trainees - N. Chicago
- ID staff and trainees Milwaukee
- (GI, Pulmonary, Endocrine)
27Current and Future
28Gram Positive Cocci in Pairs
29 VISN 12 Strategies to Improve Lab Cost
Effectiveness
- Lab network formed with centralized leadership
and budget - Consolidation
- Core (2) and primary (7) labs
- Single commercial reference lab
- Commercial courier system
- Standardization of major equipment/procedures
- Distant access via telepathology
- Three sites lack on-site pathologists Tomah,
Iron Mtn, N. Chicago - Medical technology training programs (2)
30Summary/Enabling Features for Telepathology
- In the right clinical environment, pathologists
using robotic telepathology can substitute
effectively for an onsite surgical pathologist - Telepathology can be extended to all areas of
anatomic and clinical pathology - Must balance access, diagnostic accuracy and cost
- Pathologist attitude Users must be flexible, but
do not have to be computer experts - Strong technical support of the
telecommunications network is essential