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Title: Conventions for CPV in EvtGen and PVVfit: complex stuff


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Conventions for CPV in EvtGen and
PVVfitcomplex stuff
  • Tristan du Pree, Nikhef
  • 25 October, TPTM

2
Introduction
  • Cause of this talk mailing list discussion
  • So today
  • Signs names of frames phis
  • Formulas with all conventions
  • Goal one convention documentation
  • For PVVfit model and EvtGen

3
Unitarity relations
Bd
  • VCKMVCKM1

Bs
Same under d?s
4
Root of confusion about fs
In SM both positive
Related by d?s and complex conjugation
Not same scale
5
NB
  • Sometimes ßs different
  • Sometimes conjugated
  • Sometimes fake ßs/?/df
  • e.g. ?TDR ßs
  • Different matrix product including Vts defines
    different angle
  • Only for show
  • Physically not sensible/exact
  • But to first order the same

Footnote from Silva (hep-ph/0410351)
6
JpsiPhi vs JpsiK

2nd terms
1st terms
3rd term
7
fs vs fd
  • is phase Bbar-gtB mixing
  • So

8
So whats (almost) in EvtGen?Amplitudes
  • In (next version?) EvtGen

For Bbar ?-1
beta 0.02 phi_s -0.04
9
Latest improvements EvtPVVCPLH
  • Repaired sign beta_s in formula
  • Now input beta_s0.02 gives phi_s-0.04
  • Corrected some higher order terms
  • Now consistent with formulas from this talk
  • Fit with PVVfit (next slide)
  • Signs strong phases correct
  • Reconstruction angles consistent with fit
  • Sign phis correct (correction EvtGen)
  • Old fit/data in backup, opposite oscillation

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Comparing old new
  • New
  • Old
  • So sign beta wrong
  • Underestimated half of the terms by factor
    ei?Gt
  • In amplitudes squared
  • sinfs terms times e?Gt
  • cosfs terms not existing
  • Bottom line
  • old version correct for leading orders of ?G and
    fs

12
PVVFit Amplitudes squared
  • Actual formulae
  • As programmed in PVVfit
  • Using phi_q is more symmetric

Only difference JpsiPhi vs JpsiK
dGamma.setVal(0)
13
Frames
  • Very good explanation TJampens thesis
  • https//oraweb.slac.stanford.edu/pls/slacquery/BAB
    AR_DOCUMENTS.DetailedIndex?P_BP_ID3629
  • Conventions Dunietz vs TJampens
  • Both right handed
  • Only difference definition of x-axis

14
CLEO (Dunietz et al)
15
Babar/DESY (TJampens)
16
Angular functions
Dunietz et al
  • Of course reconstruct and fit in same frame
  • Advice from experience ?

Transformations Dunietz ?Tjampens
17
Our other conventions
  • ?m mH-mL
  • ?G GL - GH gt 0
  • Names angles cpsi, ctheta, phi
  • Easier to program with
  • Consistent with Dunietz names
  • Name CP-phase phi_q (qs,d)
  • Since same sign JpsiPhi and JpsiK easier to
    generalize software
  • Note actually you fit /-2beta(_s)

18
Final formulae in PVVfit
  • Frame functions two slides back
  • Amplitude functions

JpsiK(Kspi0) dG0 JpsiK(Kpi-) also phiq0
19
Usable notes
  • Total explanation
  • Thesis TJampens
  • Very good, but not convention discussed today
  • Amplitudes
  • 2001 Dunietz for amplitudes (all orders)
  • Angular functions
  • E.g. 1995/1998 Dunietz
  • But watch out for df approximation in amplitudes
    and negative dG convention
  • Kmumu transversity
  • Ahmed Ali Salim Safir (DESY Tjampens
    convention)

20
References
  • JpsiK
  • Babar
  • Hep-ex/0107049
  • Hep-ex/0411016
  • Thesis TJampens
  • JpsiPhi
  • Dunietz
  • hep-ph/9511363
  • hep-ph/9804253
  • hep-ph/0012219
  • Clarke/McClean/Osorio
  • LHCb/internal/lhcb-2007-101
  • Ball et al
  • Hep-ph/0003238
  • Kmumu
  • DESY
  • hep-ph/0205254

TJampens convention
Angle formulas (but be careful)
Full time-dependent amplitudes
Full time-dep. amplitude functions. (But current
version TJampens-frame and Dunietz-formulas)
Full time dep, but different frame
TJampens convention
21
Be careful
  • In general definitions of ßs/?/df can differ
  • Babar notes/articles follow Tjampens angle
    convention
  • Babar physics book (p218)
  • angular functions contain sign typos
  • Dunietz et al 98
    Amplitudes in terms of their
    df2ßs, only up to first order. Very confusing
    convention anyway.
  • Dunietz et al 95
  • ?G GH GL lt 0
  • Ball et al angles angular functions different
  • Overall watch out frame conventions
  • f ? f, ?tr ? ?

22
Benefit of chatroom
  • One document this talk
  • Hopefully one convention
  • But maybe in near future TJampens-LHCb article?

23
Conclusions
  • It is very important to know the used conventions
  • Especially watch out for
  • Definition of ßs
  • Definition of the frames
  • We have this talk for JpsiX with
  • All formulas
  • All the conventions
  • The formulas of PVVFit and EvtGen
  • EvtGen improved
  • Sign phi_s higher order terms

24
BACKUP
25
Signs?
20K events
Old EvtGen wrong sign phis Wrong reconstruction
angles wrong signs strong phases
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Beta vs beta_s
  • So sign difference in phases ß and ßs
  • Since by construction ß and ßs gt 0
  • BTW
  • arg(Vtd) -ß
  • arg(Vts) ßs p
  • beta_s0.02

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Code PVVFit
  • ERASMUS???
  • PhysFit/PVVFit?
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