Title: NEA Working Group IETF 72
1NEA Working GroupIETF 72
- nea-request_at_ietf.org
- http//tools.ietf.org/wg/nea
- Co-chairs Steve Hanna shanna_at_juniper.net
- Susan Thomson sethomso_at_cisco.com
2Agenda Review
- 0900 Administrivia
- Blue Sheets
- Jabber Minute scribes
- Agenda bashing
- 0905 WG Status
- 0910 Protocol Overview
- 0915 Changes in -01 version of PB-TNC and PA-TNC
- http//www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-n
ea-pa-tnc-01.txt - http//www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-n
ea-pb-tnc-01.txt - 0930 Protocol Flows
- 1015 Proposed Changes in -02 version of PB-TNC
and PA-TNC - 1100 Open Discussion
- 1125 Review Milestones
- 1130 Adjourn
3WG Accomplishments since IETF71
- Consensus Check on PA-TNC, PB-TNC as WG docs (Mar
2008) - PA-TNC and PB-TNC -00 I-D (April 2008)
- WG Last Call for NEA requirements (April 2008)
- NEA Requirements published as RFC 5209 (May 2008)
- PA-TNC and PB-TNC -01 I-D (July 2008)
- http//www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ne
a-pa-tnc-01.txt - http//www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ne
a-pb-tnc-01.txt -
4NEA Protocol Overview
5NEA Reference Modelfrom RFC 5209
NEA Client
NEA Server
Posture Attribute (PA) protocol
Posture Collectors
Posture Validators
Posture Broker (PB) protocol
Posture Broker Client
Posture Broker Server
Posture Transport Client
Posture Transport Server
Posture Transport (PT) protocols
6PA-TNC Within PB-TNC
PT
PB-TNC Header
PB-TNC Message (TypePB-Batch-Type,
Batch-TypeCDATA)
PB-TNC Message (TypePB-PA, PA Vendor ID0, PA
Subtype OS)
PA-TNC Message
PA-TNC Attribute (TypeProduct Info, Product
IDWindows XP)
PA-TNC Attribute (TypeNumeric Version, Major5,
Minor3, ...)
7Changes in PB-TNC , PA-TNC Version -01
8Changes in -01 versions ofPB-TNC and PA-TNC
- Steve Hanna ltshanna_at_juniper.netgt
- Kaushik Narayan ltkaushik_at_cisco.comgt
- IETF 72
9Common changes
- Scaled back text on TCG/TNC
- Added Design Considerations
- Added evaluation for Requirement C-11
- Added Appendix A (flows/use cases)
- Added Kaushik Narayan as co-editor
10Changes only in PB-TNC -01
- MUST send error if message len lt 12
11PB-TNC Design Considerations (Section 2)
- Efficiency
- Binary TLVs
- Vendor ID
- SMI PEN, assigned by IANA
- Avoids collisions between vendor-defined values
- IETF Standard values use Vendor ID 0
- Two Choices for Message Addressing
- PB-TNC Message Type (when EXPL 0)
- PVs and PCs Subscribe To Message Types
- Message Type PB-TNC Vendor ID PA Subtype
- Explicit Delivery (when EXPL 1)
- PBC/PBS delivers message only to one PC/PV
- PC/PV identified by PC ID or PV ID field
12Changes only in PA-TNC -01
- Added Field Types
- Defines commonly used primitive types in the
value field of attributes. - Types include
- OctetArray (Binary data)
- Integer (32 bit unsigned integer)
- String (UTF-8 encoded Octet Array)
- IPv4Address
- IPv6Address
- TimeString (UTC, RFC3339 compliant string)
- VersionNum (64 bit value with major minor
version)
13PA-TNC Design Considerations (Section 2)
- Standard attribute namespace
- Standard PA sub-types and attributes to enable
multi-vendor interoperability. - Vendor specific namespace
- Vendor specific PA sub-types and attributes to
enable vendor differentiation and agility - TLV encoding
- Binary encoding to optimize for bits-on-the-wire
and CPU utilization.
14NEA Protocol Flows
15Proposed Changes in PB-TNC, PA-TNC Version -02
16Proposed updates toPosture Broker
protocoldraft-ietf-nea-pb-tnc-01.txt Ravi
SahitaIETF 72 NEA WGJuly 31, 2008
17Outline of proposed changes to NEA Posture Broker
protocol
- Simplification items
- New proposed changes
- Protocol changes to allow unsolicited retries
- Evaluation results
18Simplification Reduce Message Types
- Move PB-Batch-Type into PB-TNC header
- PB-Batch-Type carried with every batch
0 1 2
3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2
3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
-------------------------
------- VersionD Reserved
Batch Type
-------------------------
------- Batch
Length
-------------------------
-------
19Proposed Addition of unsolicited retries to
Posture Broker Protocol
- Allow Unsolicited Retry from NEA Client or Server
at any time (if PT allows) - Support matching requests to response messages by
adding a Message Id to the protocol - Update error reporting parameters message to
allow indicating erroneous message by specifying
Message Id - See updated state machine on next slide
20Posture Broker - Updated State Machine
21Proposed Addition of Global Assessment Decision
- Indicates posture assessment result to the
posture broker client - Does not replace Access-Recommendation message
type - Suggested Values
- Compliant
- Non-compliant
- Non-compliant major issue
- Error
- Dont Know Result
22Proposed updates toPosture Attribute
protocoldraft-ietf-nea-pa-tnc-01.txt Paul
SangsterIETF 72 NEA WGJuly 31, 2008
23PA-TNC Proposed Changes
- New Approach to Attribute Correlation
- Add PA-TNC Assessment Result Attribute
- Add PA-TNC Remediation Attribute
24Correlation ID
- Correlation ID
- Only used when PC reports posture on multiple
implementations of component - ID allows PV to associate attributes describing
same implementation - Attributes are atomic so PV needs to know which
implementation associated with attribute (e.g.
which AV has version 1.2.3?) - Not expected to be the common case
25Proposed New Approach to Correlation
- Proposal
- Remove PA-TNC Correlation ID
- Integrate semantics into PB-TNC Headers Posture
Collector ID (PC ID) - PC ID is source identifier for use by PV
- Now some PCs might have multiple PC IDs
- Each component implementation needs separate
PA-TNC message (with different PC IDs) - PV doesnt know that single PC supporting
multiple implementations of same component - Both appear as separate PCs
- PC associates different PC IDs with different
implementations of same component type
26Before Correlation Change
PT
PB-TNC Header
PB-TNC Message TLV (TypePB-Batch-Type,
Batch-TypeCDATA)
PB-TNC Message TLV (TypePB-PA, PA Vendor0, PA
SubtypeOS)
PB-PA TNC Header
PA-TNC Attribute TLV (TypeProd Info, Prod
IDNorton AV, C1)
PA-TNC Attribute TLV (TypeNumeric Version,
Maj5, Min3, C1)
PA-TNC Attribute TLV (TypeProd Info, Prod
IDMcAfee AV, C2)
PA-TNC Attribute TLV (TypeNumeric Version,
Maj1, Min2, C2)
27After Correlation Change
PT
PB-TNC Header
PB-TNC Message TLV (TypePB-Batch-Type,
Batch-TypeCDATA)
PB-TNC Message TLV (TypePB-PA, PA Vendor0, PA
SubtypeOS)
PB-PA TNC Header
PA-TNC Attribute TLV (TypeProd Info, Prod
IDNorton AV)
-4B
PA-TNC Attribute TLV (TypeNumeric Version,
Maj5, Min3)
-4B
PB-TNC Message TLV (TypePB-PA, PA Vendor0, PA
SubtypeOS)
12B
PB-PA TNC Header
12B
PA-TNC Attribute TLV (TypeProd Info, Prod
IDMcAfee AV)
-4B
PA-TNC Attribute TLV (TypeNumeric Version,
Maj1, Min2)
-4B
28Correlation ID Trade-Off
- Benefit
- Simplifies PA-TNC Attribute Header
- Removes optional Attribute Header field and flag
- Less bits on wire when many attributes sent for
same component (more common case) - Cost
- Attributes about each implementation must be in
separate PB-TNC messages - More bits on wire when fewer attributes for
multiple products reported (less common case) - Potentially more complex PBC, PBS implementation
29Proposed Addition of Assessment Result Attribute
- PA Result Attribute conveys PVs compliance
decision about component - Not mandatory to send
- Largely informational for Posture Collector
- Posture Collector would learn if assessment was
deemed compliant only for its peer Posture
Validator - Could be accompanied by new Remediation Attribute
30Proposed Addition of Remediation Attribute
- PA-TNC Remediation Attribute allows PV to provide
repair instructions to PC - Remediation instructions allows for standard and
vendor-defined data formats - Parallels current PB-Remediation-Parameters TLV
- Exclusive delivery may be required so only one PC
performs remediation
31Open Mic
32Additional Attribute?
- What additional standard attributes should be
included in the standard? - Currently have
- Attribute Request
- Product Information
- Numeric Version
- String Version
- Operational Status
- Port Filter
- Installed Packages
- PA-TNC Error
33Additional Components?
- What additional standard components should be
included in the standard? - Currently have
- Operating System
- Anti-Virus
- Anti-Spyware
- Anti-Malware
- Firewall
- Host-based Intrusion Detection/Prevention
Software - Virtual Private Network
34Milestones
- Done Proposals for PA and PB due
- Done Review and resolve proposals at IETF 71
- Done Post first WG version of PA and PB
- Done Post second version of PA and PB
- Jul 2008 Resolve issues at IETF 72
- Aug 2008 Post third version of PA and PB
- Sep 2008 WGLC on PA and PB
- Nov 2008 Resolve WGLC comments at IETF 73
- Post fourth version of PA and PB
- Dec 2008 IETF LC for PA and PB
- Jan 2009 IESG considers PA and PB for Proposed
Standard
35Next Steps
- Raise proposed changes on mailing list.
- Submit -02 version of PA-TNC, PB-TNC protocols
based on comments received