Lemonade IETF 66

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LemonadeIETF 66

• Eric Burger
• eburger_at_cantata.com
• Glenn Parsonsgparsons_at_nortel.com

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Scribes and Transcribes

• Philip For Monday
• Tony For Tuesday

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Chairs Agenda

• Agenda Bashing
• Status of documents
• Interop event
• OMA liaison
• Issue Discussion
• Existing Document Open Issues
• Milestones
• Charter Discussion

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Documents to Discuss

• Notifications
• draft-ietf-lemonade-msgevent-00
• draft-ietf-lemonade-notifications-03
• draft-ietf-lemonade-notification-protocol-00
• draft-melnikov-lemonade-imap-events-00
• draft-ietf-lemonade-imap-sieve-01
• Streaming Media
• draft-ietf-lemonade-streaming-00
• draft-burger-lemonade-streamctrls-00

• Reconnect
• draft-ietf-lemonade-reconnect-07
• draft-ietf-lemonade-reconnect-client-00
• Views
• draft-ietf-lemonade-vfolder-01
• draft-cridland-imap-contexts
• Other Bis Components
• draft-ietf-lemonade-compress-01
• draft-maes-lemonade-xencrypted-02
• draft-maes-lemonade-tcp-challenged-environments-01
  
• draft-ietf-lemonade-2192bis-02
• Profile-bis
• draft-ietf-lemonade-profile-bis-03

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Document Status (1)

• IETF last call
• draft-melnikov-imap-search-ret-03 Pub Req
• draft-melnikov-imap-expunged-01 AD Eval
• draft-vaudreuil-futuredelivery-04 IESG Eval
• Published
• draft-ietf-lemonade-profile-07 RFC 4550
• draft-ietf-lemonade-urlauth-08 RFC 4467
• draft-ietf-lemonade-burl-04 RFC 4468
• draft-ietf-lemonade-catenate-05 RFC 4469
• draft-ietf-lemonade-mms-mapping-06 RFC 4356
• draft-ietf-lemonade-goals-05 RFC 4416

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Document Status (2)

• WG last call (starting after this meeting)
• draft-ietf-lemonade-convert-04
• draft-ietf-lemonade-search-within-02
• draft-ietf-lemonade-deployments-03
• IETF last call (starting after this meeting)
• draft-daboo-imap-annotatemore-09
• Profile-bis convert

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LEMONADE Interop

• Reasons for Interop
• Marketing
• Proving viability of IETF I-D
• Before RFC publication
• Moving to IETF Draft standard
• from Proposed standard status
• Compliance
• Conformance PICS
• Interop test suite
• Input to OMA IOP

• Venue opportunities
• Private testing
• London, UK
• Oct 23-27, 2006
• Telecom 2006
• LEMONADE interop
• Hong Kong - Dec 4-8
• 3GSM 2007
• Proposed OMA MEM interop?
• Barcelona - Feb 12-15

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OMA MEM liaison

• https//datatracker.ietf.org/public/liaison_detail
  .cgi?detail_id235
• Response to specific questions
• will study the content of notifications
• Will offer an OMA MEM presentation in October
  timeframe
• Interested in interop results OMA tests only
  approved
• Response

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Document Issues
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Streaming

• Flow
• Client gets URLAUTH token from Server
• Client formulates RFC 4240 request to Media
  Server to stream object from Server
• Normal SIP content negotiation / conversion
  occurs for free
• Issues
• Locating Media Server
• VCR Controls Burger draft / mediactrl Interest
  Group

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Reconnect Issues

• Reconnect (server state)
• Reconnect-client
• Review
• Client-driven state takes up microscopically more
  bytes in one message over Server-driven state
• Client-driven state removes fate sharing bug
• Open Issues
• Should we give the client a possibility not to
  synchronize the mailbox if UIDVALIDITY didn't
  match?
• Should we depend on EXPUNGED extension for
  reporting expunged messages
• Choose one ?

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RFC2192bis Issues
No change from interim

• Include URLAUTH IMAP URL extension into this
  draft?
• Extend syntax to allow for BINARY, SEARCH return
  options (ESEARCH extensions), LIST-EXTENDED,
  etc.? (I think the answer to this question is
  yes, the question if we want to put all mentioned
  IMAP URL extensions in 2192bis)
• ABNF Error Will Be Fixed in Next Version

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LEMONADE Profile

• Stéphane Maes
• Alexey Melnikov

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Profile MUST implement

• IMAP
• STARTTLS
• CATENATE
• URLAUTH
• UIDPLUS
• POSTADDRESS
• LITERAL
• CONDSTORE
• IDLE
• NAMESPACE

• ESMTP
• AUTH
• PIPELINING
• 8BITMIME
• CHUNKING
• BINARYMIME
• DSN
• SIZE
• ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
• BURL
• STARTTLS

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Phase bis - MUST implement

• IMAP/ESMTP
• All of Profile
• Notifications
• Filters (e.g., SIEVE)
• Filter management
• Content Transformation
• Static
• Streaming
• Reconnect
• Compression
• BINARY APPEND
• Allow Partial URLs

• Others
• Firewall issues (deployment)
• TCP challenged environments
• Proxies
• Object encryption
• Notification encryption

DraftComments to the list
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LEMONADE profile-bismajor changes

• Updated/fixed references
• Updated as per fixes/changes done to RFC 4550
  before publication
• Clarified how ESMTP SIZE should be calculated for
  the submitted message and when ESMTP SIZE must
  not be used (ongoing)
• Dropped use of CONVERT for compression
• Clarified how Lemonade extensions can be used to
  store the composed message in "Sent items"
  mailbox
• Many editorial comments from Randy and Zoltan

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Next Steps

• WGLC Starting after meeting
• Many documents
• Track issues using Roundup
• http//roundup.sourceforge.net/
• Comments tracked in roundup
• Tracking per document
• Need a Comment Marshall
• Enter current issues
• Ensures new issues are entered in tool

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Milestone Dates

• Goals and Milestones
• Done Submit LEMONADE goals and use-cases
  specification to the IESG
• Done Submit server to server notification
  requirements to the IESG
• Done Submit translation to other messaging
  systems to the IESG
• Done Submit IMAP/SUBMIT extensions for forward
  without download to IESG
• Done Submit IMAP4 profile for mobile devices to
  the IESG
• Jun 05 Submit IMAP4 extensions for streaming
  multimedia to the IESG
• Aug 05 Submit server to server notification
  protocol to the IESG

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Proposed Milestone dates

• Charter items
• July 2006 CONVERT
• July 2006 - IMAP Search extension
• July 2006 - Deployment
• Aug 2006 - Reconnect (the chosen one)
• Aug 2006 - IMAP URL
• Aug 2006 - Notifications format
• Sept 2006 - Notifications protocol
• Sept 2006 - COMPRESSION 
• Sept 2006 - VFOLDER
• Sept 2006 - IMAP SIEVE
• Oct 2006 - LEMONADE profile bis

• Non charter items
• June 2006 - Future delivery
• July 2006 - Annotatemore
• July 2006 - extended search
• Aug 2006 - TCP challenged
• Sept 2006 - Encryption
• Sept 2006 - Streaming

Not tracked by WG, but tracked as interesting
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WG Deliverables

• LEMONADE Goals
• draft-ietf-lemonade-goals
• IMAP4 extensions for VM playback
• draft-ietf-lemonade-convert
• IMAP4 extensions for forwarding
• draft-ietf-lemonade-burl
• draft-ietf-lemonade-urlauth
• draft-ietf-lemonade-catenate

• IMAP4 extensions profile for diverse endpoints
• draft-ietf-lemonade-reconnect
• draft-ietf-lemonade-futuredelivery
• draft-ietf-lemonade-profile
• draft-ietf-lemonade-rfc2192bis
• Server-to-Server Notification Protocol
• draft-ietf-lemonade-notify-s2s
• Translation to and from other messaging systems
• draft-ietf-lemonade-mms-mapping

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