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1XCON WG IETF-62 Meeting Minneapolis, Mar 8th
10th 2005
XCON Framework Overview Issues Editors
Mary Barnes (mary.barnes_at_nortelnetworks.com)
Chris Boulton (cboulton_at_ubiquity.net)
Orit Levin (oritl_at_microsoft.com)
2Overview
- Part 1 Tuesday (45 min)
- Current status of XCON framework document
- Data Model derived and tentatively agreed at
Interim - Issue Discussion
- Part 2 Thursday (15 min) (starts at chart 23)
- New work items
- Agreements/status of Discussion Points
- Summary of other open issues
- Additional Work items
- Way Forward
3Current Framework Status
- (Another) major re-write from -01 version based
on interim meeting discussions and consensus - Inline with Adams summary on 08 Feb 2005.
- Simplified (and consistent) terminology
- Remains protocol agnostic in terms of call
control signaling. - Defined Focus in the context of this framework.
- Added new terms active conference, media
graph, etc. - Removed unused terms multimedia stream, etc.
- Use of Conferencing System and Client rather
than XCON server, XCON client, etc.
4Current Framework Status
- Simplified (and consistent) terminology
(continued) - Updated Template terminology
- Template is associated with a human-readable doc
(eg. RFC), with an IANA registry based on a
triplet of form name, RFC, XML schema. - Client can query a conferencing system for a list
of templates that the system supports (per
discussion of Blueprints). - Note Blueprint is a data object, Template is a
type - Note Discussion Point 3 on list around querying
a particular template
5Current Framework Updates
- Simplified Data Model (types and objects)
- No separation of policy from the conference
data itself its all part of the Conference
Object. - Policy uses ranges to control limits on values
- Policy is based on simple list structures (i.e. a
list (of clients) per type of data the listed
clients have permission to manipulate). - Conference Object Type is comprised of Common
Conference Information type and Conference
Template. Supports each of the stages of a
conference instance (e.g. reservation,
active, etc.)
6Current Framework Updates
- Introduced the Cloning Tree as a model for
System Realization. - Introduced iCal to support scheduling and
recurring reservations.
7Current Framework Updates
- Incorporated in a bit more background information
to set the context. - No duplication of content from SIPPING
Conferencing Framework - Section 8 intended to address relationship to
SIPPING. - SIP used only as an example protocol, however,
objective is to ensure that basic conferencing
functionality for SIP is not impacted. - Current version intended to provide the baseline
terminology, model and high level interfaces
(including protocols) -gt more work definitely
required to describe detailed functionality once
basics are agreed (hopefully today).
8New-02 Conferencing System Decomposition
Conferencing System
Updated Logical names. Simplified model
by logical grouping of data
Conference Object
Conference Object
Conference Object
- Conference
- Control
- Server
SIP/ PSTN/ H.323 T.120/ Etc.
SIP NOTIFY/ Etc.
TBD
BFCP
XCON Other
Conference Control Client
Floor Control Client
Call Signaling Client
Notification Client
Conferencing Client
9New-02 Conference Object Type
Conference Object Type
Common Conference Information Type
Conference Description
Membership (Roles, Capacity, Names)
Signaling (Protocol, Direction, Status)
Sidebars (and other attributes)
Conference Template Type
User Control Interface
Mixer Algorithm Inputs And Outputs
Users View
Etc.
10New-02 Cloning Tree for System Realization
(Created as Independent from Parent)
11Issue DP 1 Referring to Sets of Meetings
- Interim agreements reflected in current doc on
scheduling a conference - iCal defined as the required mechanism to be
referenced (i.e. XCON wont define any ical
extensions). - iCal object used to describe time (eg. Start
time, end time) - Makes use of cloning tree model to create the
Conference Object for Reservation - Thus, can alter a series by manipulating this
Parent Object. - Can manipulate within the range of the series by
cloning the children associated within that time
range. - DP1 highlights an additional consideration not
currently explicitly addressed - Is it necessary to be able to identify "all
future occurrences" of a conference (i.e.
infinite series) ? - Proposal Should be inherently supportable with
cloning tree structure and iCal (i.e. should
not impact current/planned iCal functionality)
12Issue DP 2 Floor Control Model in terms of
Groups of RTP streams?
- DP2 discusses the need to identify bundles of
associated RTP streams, possibly at the protocol
level, and possibly just as a concept for
discussion of the protocols. - Do we need this?
- If so, what do we call this?
- Is it represented in the protocols?
- If it is part of a protocol
- which protocol
- Conference Control Protocol inside templates?
- Inside SDP?
- Within BFCP (which is done already)?
- how is the grouping defined?
- Mailing list feedback indicates, we dont need
this grouping mechanism, but rather can use a
stream name specific to a role. - Proposal go forward based on mailing list
feedback. Validate approach by working through
further detailed flows, etc. with protocols (in
section 7).
13Issue DP3 Querying Templates
- Interim Consensus Agreement to provide the
ability to query a server that implements the
XCON protocols to determine which templates it
understands. - Additional discussion, but no consensus, around
the ability to query a server about a particular
template to retrieve a description -- probably
an XML document, but possibly in some other form
-- of that template. - The idea behind this functionality would be
enabling clients to interact with templates that
they don't natively understand. - By extracting the variables from the template
description and presenting them to the user in
some format that allows manipulation of their
values, all clients can work with all templates,
even those that were not defined when the client
was developed. - Is this an important property?
- Proposal Yes, this property is important for
templates to remain flexible.
14Issue DP3 Querying Templates - continued
- What is the format in which the template
description should be presented? - Alternative 1 XML Schema - as in current
templates draft. This then supplies all relevant
information that a client needs. - Alternative 2 Blueprint, per current FW,
which includes a template instantiation with
customized values - Does the client retrieve this description from
the server itself, or is there some centralized
repository to get these descriptions from? - Mailing list feedback Cullen cant be from
central repository. - Proposal XCON server advertises exactly what is
supported by the server.
15Issue DP3 Querying Templates- continued
- Can the description be the same as the XML
schema that is registered with IANA? - Proposal Should be the same.
- Is the description sent at the same time as the
list of templates is sent to the client, or does
a client need to explicitly ask about templates
that it doesn't understand? - Proposal A client would need to query any
templates that it doesn't understand THEN make a
decision on compatibility.
16Issue DP3 Querying Templates- continued
- If we use the XML schema to describe the
template, should we include user interface
"hints" that allow clients to intelligently
decide whether to display values as (e.g.) a
slider versus a knob versus a number that can be
typed in? - Proposal Yes - interface hints need to be
included e.g. per current template draft - ltcontrol type "boolean" name"mute"
default"true" enable"true"/gt - ltcontrol type"boolean" name"mute"
default"false" enable"true"/gt - Mailing List concern that don't even know if the
device has a screen or not (or a keyboard or not
17Issue DP4 XML Schema Structure
- Three options
- Template at the top level, with Common Conference
Information as a subsection. - Single schema
- Requires knowledge of a particular Template
schema by the client in order to retrieve any
basic information - Requires Navigation of the template to get to
common conference information. - Common Conference Information, at top level,
contains template information. - Clients dont need to care about templates for
basic conferencing. - Common Conference Information must include an
extension point, which complicates XML validation
18Issue DP4 XML Schema Structure - continued
- Template and Common Conference Information are
conveyed as two separate objects - Separate schema, straightforward validation and
easy access to either information - Increases protocol complexity (e.g. multipart
mime or separate protocols) - Proposal option 2 (Editors choice) or 3 (if WG
prefers).
19Issue DP5 State and Policy Manipulation
Protocol(s)
- Option 1 Syntactic (i.e. basic operations, with
variable and data provided upon invocation) - Allows for extensions to data model without
impacting protocol - More suitable for Conference Template since its
intended to be extended. - Server generally has to infer intent from data
content rather than via direct signalling - Processing overhead
- Interpretation may result in interoperability
issues - Poorly suited for compound operations such as
moving objects
20Issue DP5 State and Policy Manipulation
Protocol(s)
- Option 2 Semantic (i.e. explicit operations)
- Efficient Server Implementation
- Promise of better interoperability
- Extensions to the underlying data model require
extensions to the protocol used to manipulate it - More suitable for Common Conference Information
since this information is easily scoped by a
relatively small number of primitives - Easily extensible under a common protocol
infrastructure - Can define data manipulations (syntactic)
primitives - Can define opaque stimulus operations
- Option 3 Both
- Appears to conflict with objective to have a
single protocol. - Note, however, that semantic can also support
fundamental syntactic model (for data
manipulations)
21Issue DP5 State and Policy Manipulation
Protocol(s)
- Mailing List Discussion
- Seemed to converge to the point that the
differentiation is artificial and doesnt resolve
anything. - Consistent with the point that semantic model can
also support fundamental syntactic model (for
data manipulations) - Proposal Option 2, with the operations to
support basic data manipulations (for syntactic
operations). - Several protocols put forth
- CPCP, CCCP, CSCP, Netconf
- To be discussed on Thursday.
22Issues Identified during WG review
- Section 4.1 text around Conference Instance
mapping to multiple conference objects seems
confusing. - Proposal propose re-wording as later text (in
section 5) makes the concept more clear. - Figure 2 show Floors/floor control (as part of
Conference Object Type). - Section 4.5 Data Access Rights seems very much
like Common Conference Rules. - Editors we needed to keep the concept of
conference policies. There is no longer any
central repository per se, but there is a need to
have the read/write access rights associated with
each object. Permissions are reflected by the
simple list structure. - Does this need further discussion/clarification?
- Proposal remove differentiation of layers and
clearly describe necessary functionality to
support the fundamental access to the data
objects and the allowed ranges of the data, list
of clients, etc. Include note as to a more
general Rule mechanism being out of scope and
FFS.
23Issues Identified during WG review
- 6.4 Floor control section needs additional
work. Note current text is attempting to align
terminology/identifiers from BFCP with XCON FW
identifiers - 6.4.1 User Identifier
- new section is a bit out of context here
- details need resolution.
- Section 7.1 example is really media manipulation
(i.e. section 7.2)
24Part 2 (Thursday, March 10th)
- New work items
- Agreements/status of Discussion Points
- Summary of other open issues
- Additional Work items
- Way Forward
25New work identified by Framework
- The following items are identified as requiring
further specification, in other documents, based
upon the current discussion and concepts
introduced in the framework - URI schema for Conference Object Identifier
- Mechanism/details for Data Access Rights and
Conference Control Limits and Permissions (i.e.
conference policies) . - Alternative proposal for Floor control based on
templates? - User Identifier (for Conferencing System)
introduced in section 6.4.1. - new section is a bit out of context here
- details need resolution - perhaps documented with
the URI schema for Conference Object Identifier) - All these items require further discussion on the
list.
26Agreed work items/DP status
- DP1 Referring to Sets of Meetings.
- Agreement Should be inherently supportable with
cloning tree structure and iCal (i.e. should
not impact current/planned iCal functionality). - Action Need to ensure that there is a single
time from which other times are derived
(subject to system considerations). - DP2 Floor Control Model in terms of Groups of
RTP streams? - Agreement go forward based on mailing list
feedback that grouping may not be necessary (i.e.
can use a stream name specific to a role. ) - Validate approach by working through further
detailed flows, etc. with protocols (in section
7).
27Agreed work items/DP status
- DP3 Querying templates
- Agreements
- Need the ability to query a server about a
particular template to retrieve a description,
with 2 options - XML Schema - as in current templates draft. This
then supplies all relevant information that a
client needs. - Blueprint, per current FW, which includes a
template instantiation with customized values - Description is the same as the XML schema that
is registered with IANA.
28Agreed work items/DP status
- DP3 Querying templates (continued)
- Agreements (continued)
- XCON server advertises what it supports to the
client Client retrieves the template from the
server itself (and NOT from some centralized
repository) - A client would need to query any templates that
it doesn't understand THEN make a decision on
compatibility. - Interface hints need to be included e.g. per
current template draft.
29Agreed work items/DP status
- DP4 XML Schema Structure 3 options proposed
- Option 1 Template at the top level, with Common
Conference Information as a subsection. - Option 2 Common Conference Information at top
- Option 3 Template and Common Conference
Information are conveyed as two separate objects - No agreement.
- Action Continue discussion on list.
30Agreed work items/DP status
- DP5 State and Policy Manipulation Protocol(s)
- Mailing List Discussion seemed to converge to the
point that the differentiation between syntactic
and semantic is artificial and doesnt resolve
anything - Proposal that semantic model can also support
fundamental syntactic model (for data
manipulations) - Updates to reflect conclusions to current WG
discussions on specific protocol proposals.
31Additional work to complete
- 6.4 Floor control section
- Current text is attempting to align
terminology/identifiers from BFCP with XCON FW
identifiers. - Needs additional work/cleanup
- Complete detail in section 7
- Including functionality such as sidebars, private
messages, etc. - Need additional scenarios/flows to highlight how
the XCON functional elements work together and
more importantly how a UA interfaces to the
elements to achieve the desired functionality. - One example currently in section 7.1 -gt need
feedback on this approach or alternatives). - Mailing list section 7.1 is really section 7.2
(media manipulation). - Add some full physical realization EXAMPLES with
a mix of XCON functions and existing protocols?
32Way Forward
- Plans are to update doc based on discussions thus
far, meeting conclusions and any additional
mailing list feedback. - Submit doc as WG document, planning at least one
review cycle prior to Paris.