Title: On reproducibility (again)
1On reproducibility (again)
- Based on several inputs of N. Sammut, S.
Sanfilippo - Presented by L. Bottura to the LHCCWG
- 11.9.2007
2Components reproducibility
- Geometric
- Change in the cable positions
- Saturation
- No issue detected
- Persistent currents
- Pre-cycle current
- Modeling
- Decay Snapback
- Pre-cycle current and time
- Residual magnetization
- It packs everything we did not understand properly
3GeometrySummary of uncertainty
- uncertainty estimated as 3 ? of multipoles
repeatedly measured on the same magnet (few
magnets tested) - after powering
- after training
- u(b1)2.8 units
- u(b3)0.3 units _at_ 17 mm
4Persistent currentsSummary of uncertainty
- The effects are large (of the order of 10 units)
- The variability associated with powering cycles
is very large
- MB (IFT 2 kA vs. nominal)
- u(b1) 1.5 units
- u(b3) 1 units _at_ 17 mm
- MQY (Imin 50 vs. 200 A)
- u(b2) 10 units _at_ 17 mm
These values are relevant only if the pre-cycle
is changed from run to run
5DecaySummary of uncertainty
- Although we have seen (much) better, we maintain
that the empirical model (data fits) has a
typical error that can amount to up to 20 of
the effect - Main source of uncertainty is from the modeling
of powering history, all other effects (aperture
differences, cycle details, ageing) are small and
have negligible systematic - Why so cautious ?
- The sample of magnets used for the data-fitting
is limited (10 magnets) - The biased sample adds uncertainty in the
projection of the average
6Uncertainty after correction
Values estimated for MBs in July 2004, RMS review
NOTE variations of pre-cycle from the nominal
one (e.g. due to limitations during commissioning
or changes in optics) will cause an additional
uncertainty that can be much larger than the
above values
7New elements and a reminder
- Tracking test, July 2007
- Effects of hysteresis on correctors
- Other mysteries and miseries
8Tracking - what ?
- The plan was (and still is) to have 2 MBs and 1
MQ running simultaneously to verify - B1/B1const
- B2/B1const
- integral B30 and integral B50 MBs
- We experienced difficulties in maintaining stable
operating conditions on the SM-18 benches (mainly
on cryogenics), which made running two benches
simultaneously practically impossible - A first test campaign was nonetheless performed,
testing B3 and B5 corrections on a single MB
powered using a customized version of LSA from
the SM-18 control room
9Main result
- After considerable tweaking, and many, many
measurements(1) we could compensate b3 to
approximately 0.5 units (0.25 units peak-peak)
(1) The measurements taken during the tracking
test amount to about 10 of the whole
measurement raw database (ovation for Nicholas
and Marek)
10Why so deplorable ?
- Measurement issues
- Instrument calibrations (gains, coils 0.1 units)
- Completeness of the harmonics integral (small ?)
- Modeling issues
- Persistent current model
- Relevance of the data source (50 A/s vs. 10 A/s
0.5 units) - Accuracy of the model (0.1 units)
- Residual magnetization model (?)
- Control issues
- Translation of nominal optical parameters to
currents for the power supplies (checked on-line,
further check in progress) - Timing (small)
- ?
1110 A/s vs 50 A/s precycle
Difference in pre-cycles produce substantial
variations in the apparent persistent currents,
affecting the model. We have to check the
accuracy of the extrapolation.
12Other miseriesEffect of precycle - MQT
Data courtesy of W. Venturini
The effect low current cycling can be massive
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13 and misteriesa2 anomaly in Ansaldo-2 (2002)
- The shape of the a2(I) has a strong anomaly in
one aperture of on Ansaldo-2 (2002) reassembled - This data is real !
- not a cable hysteresis
- measurements are OK as far as we can tell
- a magnetic piece (protection layer, shim,) in
the collared coils? - Observed in few other magnets
- Depends linearly on maximum current reached
14A conclusion for this round
- For the moment, we maintain the original
estimate, with the following caveats - The whole series tests were performed using 50
A/s pre-cycles (or proportional for magnets
working at nominal current other than 11850 A).
The 50-10 extrapolation may have troubles - We still cannot explain why the tracking (a
single harmonic, a single magnet) is so
miserable. A new test campaign is being set-up
for mid October. Volunteers are welcome