Title: FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATION CHARTER BUS NEGOTIATED RULEMAKING ADVISORY COMMITTEE
1FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATION CHARTER BUS
NEGOTIATED RULEMAKING ADVISORY COMMITTEE
- UPDATE PRESENTED BY
- DAVID SPACEK
- ILLINOIS DOT
- MTAP WINTER CONFERENCE-2006
- SAN FRANCISCO, CA
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3CONGRESSIONAL ISSUES
- ARE THERE POTENTIAL LIMITED CONDITIONS UNDER
WHICH PUBLIC TRANSIT AGENCIES CAN PROVIDE
COMMUNITY-BASED CHARTER SERVICE DIRECTLY TO LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS AND PRIVATE NON-PROFIT AGENCIES THAT
WOULD NOT OTHERWISE BE SERVED IN A COST EFFICTIVE
MANNER BY PRIVATE OPERATORS? - HOW CAN THE ADMINISTRATION AND ENFORCEMENT OF
CHARTER BUS PROVISIONS BE BETTER COMMUNICATED TO
THE PUBLIC, INCLUDING THE USE OF INTERNET
TECHNOLOGY? - HOW CAN THE ENFORCEMENT OF VIOLATION OF THE
CHARTER BUS REGULATIONS BE IMPROVED? - HOW CAN THE CHARTER COMPLAINT AND ADMINISTRATIVE
APPEALS PROCESS BE IMPROVED?
4GENERAL OBSERVATIONS
- THERE IS NO TRUST BETWEEN THE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE
SECTOR - THERE IS NO TRUST BETWEEN THE PRIVATE AND PUBLIC
SECTOR AND THE FTA - FTA ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF WERE VERY CONDENSENDING
AND UNIFORMED AT TIMES. - WE HAVE DEALT WITH THE LOW HANGING FRUIT BUT
CANNOT SEEM TO AGREE ON HOW TO ATTACK THE BIG
ISSUE-REDEFINITION OF CHARTER BUS
5GENERAL OBSERVATIONS
- FTA STAFF HAS NO REAL CONCEPT OF HOW RURAL WORKS
AND WHAT TO DO ABOUT INDIAN TRIBES - PUBLICS ARE DOING CHARTER AND PRIVATES ARE
DOING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION - SPECIAL EVENTS A BIG STUMBLING BLOCK
- FORMAT SHIFTED FROM DISCUSSION OF THE 8 ISSUES TO
REGULATORY TEXT - WHAT SHOULD THE PUBLICS DO WITH THE CHANGE IN
CONGRESS FROM REPUBLICAN TO DEMOCRATIC CONTROL.
6DEFINITION OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION
- THE TERM PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION MEANS
TRANSPORTATION BY A CONVEYANCE THAT PROVIDES
REGULAR AND CONTINUING GENERAL OR SPECIAL
TRANSPORTATION TO THE PUBLIC, BUT DOES NOT
INCLUDE SCHOOL BUS, CHARTER, INTERCITY BUS
TRANSPORTATION OR INTERCITY RAIL TRANSPORTATION
PROVIDED BY THE ENTITY DESCRIBED IN CHAPTER 243
(AMTRAK) - PRIVATE SECTOR ISSUE HOW TO DEFINE REGULAR AND
CONTINUING-SPECIAL EVENTS SUCH AS GOLF TORNAMENT
OR FLOWER SHOW
7DEFINITION OF CHARTER SERVICE
- TRANSPORTATION USING BUSES OR VANS, OR
FACILITIES FUNDED UNDER THE ACTS OF A GROUP OF
PERSONS WHO PURSUANT TO A COMMON PURPOSE, UNDER A
SINGLE CONTRACT, AT A FIXED CHARGE FOR THE
VEHICLE OR SERVICE, HAS AQUIRED THE EXCLUSIVE USE
OF THE VEHICLE TO TRAVEL TOGETHER UNDER AN
INTINERARY EITHER SPECIFIED IN ADVANCE OR
MODIFIED AFTER HAVING LEFT THE PLACE OF ORIGIN - PRIVATE ISSUE-TO NARROW A DEFINITION
- PUBLIC ISSUE- HOW TO HANDLE GOVERNMENTAL
OFFICIALS THAT WANT TO USE A BUS FOR VARIOUS
FUCTIONS OR MOVEMENT OF PUBLIC TRANSIT EMPLOYEES
8ISSUE 7 REVIEW AND CLARIFY, AS NECESSARY, THE
DEFINITION OF REGULATORY TERMS
- EVERYONE AGREED AT THE FIRST MEETING THAT THE
CHARTER DEFINITION WAS DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND
AND SHOULD BE SIMPLIFIED - THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION OF THE
DEFINITON OF CHARTER BUT NO CLEAR CONSENSUS - GOING INTO THE LAST MEETING THE PUBLIC SECTOR
DOES NOT WANT THE DEFINITION TO BE CHANGED - RON BAUMGARTEN (RIVER CITIES TRANSIT IN SD) AND I
ARE PUSHING FOR A SIMPLIER WAY TO DETERMINE WHAT
IS CHARTER
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10ISSUE 1 ARE THERE POTENTIAL LIMITED CONDITIONS
UNDER WHICH PUBLIC TRANSIT AGENCIES CAN PROVIDE
COMMUNITY-BASED CHARTER SERVICES TO LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS AND PRIVATE NON-PROFIT AGENCIES THAT
WOULD NOT OTHERWISE BE SERVED IN A COST-EFFECTIVE
MANNER BY PRIVATE OPERATORS
- Public Transit Caucus proposed A recipient may
provide community based transportation within
its service area on an incidental basis.
Community based transportation means Charter
service to 1) a supporting governmental entity
or 2) private non-profit exempt from taxation, or
a faith based organization that is registered on
the FTA charter website, or 3) a qualified social
service agency under Appendix A of 49 CFR part
604. - Private Sector thought this was too broad. They
also suggested a cap on the number of hours to
simplify things. - Public Sector said that we needed to define
Charter before we could discuss caps (here we
go loop de loop) - Big issues are university transportation and
transportation to and from special events - Private Sector wants first bite of the apple
11ISSUE 2 HOW CAN THE ADMINISTRATION AND
ENFORCEMENT OF CHARTER BUS PROVISIONS BE BETTER
COMMUNICATED TO THE PUBLIC
- FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IT STARTS WITH A CLEAR
UNDERSTANBLE DEFINITION OF CHARTER - EARLY DISCUSSIONS CENTERED AROUND BETTER
COMMUNICATION BY FTA TO GRANTEES THROUGH SOME
SORT OF FTA WEB BASED SYSTEM AND HIGHER PROFILE
AT TRI-ANNUAL REVIEWS - IS NOT PART OF DRAFT REGULATIONS
12ISSUE 3 HOW CAN THE ENFORCEMENT OF VIOLATION OF
THE CHARTER BUS REGULATIONS BE IMPROVED
- CLEAR DEFINITION OF CHARTER BUS
- TAKE THE COMPLAINT PROCESS OUT OF THE FTA REGIONS
- PROVIDE FOR A DE NOVO (FIRST TIME) APPEALS TO THE
FTA ADMINISTRATOR - MAINTAIN ALL CHARTER RULE DECISIONS IN A
SEARCHABLE DATABASE ON THE FTA WEBSITE
13ISSUE 4 HOW CAN THE CHARTER COMPLAINT AND
ADMINISTRATIVE APPEALS PROCESS BE IMPROVED
- TWO TYPES OF COMPLAINT PROCESSES HAVE BEEN
DISCUSSED - THE FIRST IS WHERE FTA INITIATES AN INVESTIGATION
- THE SECOND IS WHERE THE PUBLIC OR PRIVATE SECTOR
INITIATES A COMPLAINT - BOTH INVOLVE THE USE OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE LAW
JUDGE TO RESOLVE THE COMPLAINT. FTA IS PUSHING
THIS, IT IS SUPPORTED BY THE PRIVATE SECTOR, BUT
PUBLIC SECTOR IS NOT SURE. - I RAISED THE ISSUE THAT IN THE SECOND CASE THIS
COULD BE BURDONSOME ON RURAL OR SMALL URBAN
SYSTEMS
14FTA INITIATES AN INVESTIGATION
15PUBLIC OR PRIVATE SECTOR INITIATES COMPLAINT
16ISSUE 5 A NEW PROCESS FOR DETERMINING IF THERE
ARE ANY PRIVATE CHARTER BUS COMPANIES WILLING AND
ABLE TO PROVIDE SERVICE THAT WOULD UTILIZE
ELECTRONIC NOTIFICATION AND RESPONSE WITHIN 72 HRS
- FTA, PUBLIC SECTOR AND PRIVATE SECTOR ALL AGREED
ON A FTA WEB BASED REGISTRATION LIST FOR TRANSIT
AGENCIES, PRIVATE CHARTER COMPANIES, AND CERTAIN
SOCIAL SERVICE ENTITIES - ALL UPCOMING CHARTERS WOULD BE POSTED ON WEB SITE
TO MEET 72 HR TIMEFRAME - PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SECTOR OPERATORS COULD
PETITION THE FTA TO HAVE ANY PRIVATE SECTOR
COMPANY OR SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCY REMOVED FROM THE
REGISTRATION LIST - STILL AN ISSUE FOR RURAL AS TO WHAT CONSTITUTES
TO FAR TO TRAVEL BY THE PRIVATE SECTOR - DOES COST COME IN TO PLAY WHEN DETERMINING
WILLING AND ABLE?
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18ISSUE 6 A NEW EXCEPTION FOR TRANSPORTATION OF
GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES, ELECTED OFFICIALS, AND
MEMBERS OF THE TRANSIT INDUSTRY TO EXAMINE LOCAL
TRANSIT OPERATIONS, FACILITIES AND PUBLIC WORKS.
- PROPOSED
- INTERNAL TRANSPORTATION OF TRANSIT EMPLOYEES AND
EMERGENCY RESPONSE PREPAREDNESS ARE EXEMPT FROM
CHARTER REGS. (DISCUSSION ON WHAT THIS MEAN FOR
RURAL SYSTEMS) - EXEMPTION FOR SITE VISITS, INVOLVING CARRING
PERSONNEL FROM OUTSIDE THE TRANSIT AGENCY BUT
INVOLVED IN OVERSIGHT, INVESTMENT, OR PROJECTS TO
AND AROUND TRANSIT PROJECT SITES AND POTENTIAL
SITES-INCLUDES THE TRANSPORTATION OF ELECTED
OFFICIALS OF ANY GOVERNMENT LEVEL - STILL DISCUSSING HOW TO DOCUMENT THESE TRIPS
- SEEMS TO BE SOME LEVEL OF AGREEMENT BETWEEN
PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SECTOR ON THIS ISSUE
19WHERE WE STAND
- FTA HAS DRAFTED PROPOSED REGULATORY TEXT THAT WE
HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH LINE BY LINE THAT ADDRESS
ISSUES 1, 3, 4, 5, AND 6. HAVE STARTED WITH THE
EASY ONES TO GET SOME AGREEMENT AND THEN WORKING
TOWARDS THE DIFFICULT ONES. - I HAVE LITTLE CONFIDENCE THAT WE WILL REACH
CONSENSUS ON A REVISED DEFINITION OF CHARTER
AND FTA WILL END UP DRAFTING PROPOSED LANGUAGE.