Title: EBCOE
1E-BCOE
- Clerkship Feedback 2005-2006
- Ilana Halperin and Noah Ivers
- Meds 2007
2Agenda
- 1.0 Introduction 10 Min.
- 2.0 Data Review and Discussion
- 2.1 Surgery 30 Min.
- 2.2 Medicine 30 Min.
- 2.3 Break 10 Min.
- 2.4 Paediatrics 15 Min.
- 2.5 OB/GYN 20 Min.
- 2.6 Psychiatry 15 Min.
- 2.7 Family Medicine 15 Min.
- 3.0 Conclusions and Future Plans 15 Min.
3Introduction
- Online survey
- http//www.schulich.uwo.ca/survey/Login.asp
- Email with survey links sent out every 6 weeks.
- Draw for 125 to chapters done every 12 weeks.
- Data kept on online software until transferred to
excel then deleted.
4Introduction
- New Format Online Surveys
- Pros
- Higher N than last year
- Better breakdown of data into specialties and
locations - Rotation-specific questions in Paeds, OB, FM,
Medicine - Will improve next year
- Cons
- Low N compared to BCOE in years 1 and 2
- Same students always fill out surveys
- We did make some errors, first time with online
surveys. - EXAMPLES Some people filled out multiple surveys
(most likely forgot they filled it out the first
time), Data tabulation was more onerous than
anticipated
5Surgery
- Previous BCOE Feedback
- General Strengths
- Formal teaching sessions
- Level of independence
- Variety of problems
- General Weaknesses
- Objectives and evaluation methods not clearly
detailed from outset - Inadequate opportunity for participation in OR
- Lack of firm post-call protocol
- Inadequate informal/resident teaching
- Problems related to St. Joes and Hospital
Restructuring
6General Surgery Windsor
Question
Average Rating, N9
Time spent in formal teaching sessions
2.2
Time spent on informal clinical teaching
2.1
5.7
Supervisors aware of objectives appropriate for
clerk
5.4
Appropriate level of independence
Evaluation fairly assessed my knowledge and
abilities
4.8
Feedback given throughout rotation
4.8
5.7
Variety of patient problems
Teachers modeled positive gender/diversity
attitudes
5.1
5.2
Teachers modeled respect for other health
professionals
6.0
I would recommend this rotation to friends
7General Surgery London
Question
Average Rating, N38
Time spent in formal teaching sessions
2.1
Time spent on informal clinical teaching
1.7
5.8
Supervisors aware of objectives appropriate for
clerk
6.2
Appropriate level of independence
Evaluation fairly assessed my knowledge and
abilities
4.8
Feedback given throughout rotation
4.5
5.9
Variety of patient problems
Teachers modeled positive gender/diversity
attitudes
5.3
5.3
Teachers modeled respect for other health
professionals
5.9
I would recommend this rotation to friends
8Surgery Selectives Windsor
Question
Average Rating, N12
Time spent in formal teaching sessions
2.2
Time spent on informal clinical teaching
2.1
5.1
Supervisors aware of objectives appropriate for
clerk
4.8
Appropriate level of independence
Evaluation fairly assessed my knowledge and
abilities
5.3
Feedback given throughout rotation
4.7
5.4
Variety of patient problems
Teachers modeled positive gender/diversity
attitudes
5.7
5.7
Teachers modeled respect for other health
professionals
5.4
I would recommend this rotation to friends
9Surgery Selectives London
Question
Average Rating, N61
Time spent in formal teaching sessions
1.9
Time spent on informal clinical teaching
1.9
5.6
Supervisors aware of objectives appropriate for
clerk
5.5
Appropriate level of independence
Evaluation fairly assessed my knowledge and
abilities
5.5
Feedback given throughout rotation
5.1
5.7
Variety of patient problems
Teachers modeled positive gender/diversity
attitudes
5.6
5.9
Teachers modeled respect for other health
professionals
5.9
I would recommend this rotation to friends
10Anasthesia Windsor
Question
Average Rating, N6
Time spent in formal teaching sessions
2
Time spent on informal clinical teaching
2.2
6.2
Supervisors aware of objectives appropriate for
clerk
6.2
Appropriate level of independence
Evaluation fairly assessed my knowledge and
abilities
6.2
Feedback given throughout rotation
6.3
6
Variety of patient problems
Teachers modeled positive gender/diversity
attitudes
6
5.4
Teachers modeled respect for other health
professionals
6.3
I would recommend this rotation to friends
11Anasthesia London
Question
Average Rating, N25
Time spent in formal teaching sessions
1.9
Time spent on informal clinical teaching
2.1
5.5
Supervisors aware of objectives appropriate for
clerk
5.4
Appropriate level of independence
Evaluation fairly assessed my knowledge and
abilities
5
Feedback given throughout rotation
5
5.5
Variety of patient problems
Teachers modeled positive gender/diversity
attitudes
5.4
5.8
Teachers modeled respect for other health
professionals
5.6
I would recommend this rotation to friends
12ER Windsor
Question
Average Rating, N8
Time spent in formal teaching sessions
2
Time spent on informal clinical teaching
2.1
5.3
Supervisors aware of objectives appropriate for
clerk
5.8
Appropriate level of independence
Evaluation fairly assessed my knowledge and
abilities
5.4
Feedback given throughout rotation
5.3
5.6
Variety of patient problems
Teachers modeled positive gender/diversity
attitudes
5.4
5.4
Teachers modeled respect for other health
professionals
5.6
I would recommend this rotation to friends
13ER London
Question
Average Rating, N36
Time spent in formal teaching sessions
1.7
Time spent on informal clinical teaching
1.7
4.4
Supervisors aware of objectives appropriate for
clerk
5.4
Appropriate level of independence
Evaluation fairly assessed my knowledge and
abilities
4.5
Feedback given throughout rotation
4
5.8
Variety of patient problems
Teachers modeled positive gender/diversity
attitudes
5
5.3
Teachers modeled respect for other health
professionals
4.9
I would recommend this rotation to friends
14Surgery Comments
- Negative
- In Windsor Gen Sx, students often not called to
ward when on-call - In London Gen Sx, most time spent with residents,
but consultants fill out evaluation - In London Gen Sx, 20 of students said the call
policy was not adhered to schedules were not
available in advance and post-call culture is
still an issue - In Windsor Plastic Sx had too much cosmetics
- In London Anasthesia sometimes offered few
opportunities for intubation - In London Selectives had poor communication of
schedules and call expectations - In ER, some consultants were not interested in
teaching clerks - In London ER, students felt they were a burden
and it was difficult to find consultants to
report to - Overall, students not interested in surgery often
were treated differently by the team
- Positive
- In Windsor Gen Sx, great opportunities for
hands-on experience - In London Gen Sx, great teamwork experience,
well-defined role/responsibilities - In London Gen Sx, call was regarded as a valuable
learning experience - Anasthesia offered excellent one-on-one teaching
- ER had good variety of patients and opportunities
for procedures
15Surgery Conclusions
- Strengths
- Formal teaching, Hands-on experience,
Independence, and Teamwork - Areas for Improvement
- Informal teaching in London
- ER in London
- Role of clerks on-call in Windsor
- Student Suggestions
- Implement resident evaluation form in general
surgery as in CTU - In Anasthesia, put students in rooms with high
turnover and exposure to non-OR areas - In London ER, try matching students schedules to
one consultant or senior ER resident to decrease
waiting time and increase continuity of learning - Noteworthy Teachers
- Windsor Drs. Hartwell, Petrakos, GenSx Taylor,
Alsaden, Anasthesia St. Amand, Nisbet, ER
Yousif Ortho - London Drs. Quan, Rajgopal, Colquhoun, Taylor,
Vinden, GenSx Scott, Brock, Matic, Faber, Gan,
Pautler, Malthaner, Luke, Nguyen, Ng,
Selectives McCabe, Anasthesia Regan, Lewell
ER
16Medicine
- Previous BCOE Feedback
- No Recent Feedback for CTU
- General Strengths
- Elder care was viewed to be an excellent learning
experience, with strengths in formal teaching and
patient centered approach - Oncology had an excellent student handbook
- General Weaknesses
- Elder care had inadequate patient variety and
students did not appreciate having to travel b/w
sites - Oncology had significant blocks of free time
mid-day
17Medicine CTU - ACE
Question
Average Rating, N10
Time spent in formal teaching sessions
1.9
Time spent on informal clinical teaching
1.6
5.4
Supervisors aware of objectives appropriate for
clerk
5.8
Appropriate level of independence
Evaluation fairly assessed my knowledge and
abilities
5.5
Feedback given throughout rotation
4.6
3.9
Variety of patient problems
Teachers modeled positive gender/diversity
attitudes
5
5.5
Teachers modeled respect for other health
professionals
5
I would recommend this rotation to friends
18Medicine CTU - ACE
Question
Average Rating, N10
5.7
The team was organized and collegial
Role of clerk well defined
5.2
Consultant and/or residents available for advice
5.6
Role of allied health care clearly delineated
5.4
3.4
Opportunity to observe/perform procedures
19Medicine CTU - Vic
Question
Average Rating, N11
Time spent in formal teaching sessions
2
Time spent on informal clinical teaching
1.4
4.9
Supervisors aware of objectives appropriate for
clerk
5.5
Appropriate level of independence
Evaluation fairly assessed my knowledge and
abilities
5.5
Feedback given throughout rotation
4.8
5.4
Variety of patient problems
Teachers modeled positive gender/diversity
attitudes
4.8
5.6
Teachers modeled respect for other health
professionals
5
I would recommend this rotation to friends
20Medicine CTU - Vic
Question
Average Rating, N10
5.2
The team was organized and collegial
Role of clerk well defined
4.7
Consultant and/or residents available for advice
5.4
Role of allied health care clearly delineated
5.1
3.4
Opportunity to observe/perform procedures
21Medicine CTU - UH
Question
Average Rating, N30
Time spent in formal teaching sessions
2
Time spent on informal clinical teaching
1.5
5.2
Supervisors aware of objectives appropriate for
clerk
5.6
Appropriate level of independence
Evaluation fairly assessed my knowledge and
abilities
5.2
Feedback given throughout rotation
4.5
5.5
Variety of patient problems
Teachers modeled positive gender/diversity
attitudes
5.1
5.8
Teachers modeled respect for other health
professionals
5.8
I would recommend this rotation to friends
22Medicine CTU - UH
Question
Average Rating, N10
5.7
The team was organized and collegial
Role of clerk well defined
5.6
Consultant and/or residents available for advice
5.5
Role of allied health care clearly delineated
5.5
3.2
Opportunity to observe/perform procedures
23Medicine Selectives
Question
Average Rating, N44
Time spent in formal teaching sessions
1.7
Time spent on informal clinical teaching
2
5.2
Supervisors aware of objectives appropriate for
clerk
5.7
Appropriate level of independence
Evaluation fairly assessed my knowledge and
abilities
5.1
Feedback given throughout rotation
4.6
5.5
Variety of patient problems
Teachers modeled positive gender/diversity
attitudes
5.6
5.9
Teachers modeled respect for other health
professionals
5.7
I would recommend this rotation to friends
24Medicine Selectives
Question
Average Rating, N10
5.5
The team was organized and collegial
Role of clerk well defined
4.9
Consultant and/or residents available for advice
5.5
Role of allied health care clearly delineated
5.3
3.5
Opportunity to observe/perform procedures
25Oncology Windsor
Question
Average Rating, N4
Time spent in formal teaching sessions
1.5
Time spent on informal clinical teaching
1.8
5.5
Supervisors aware of objectives appropriate for
clerk
6
Appropriate level of independence
Evaluation fairly assessed my knowledge and
abilities
4.8
Feedback given throughout rotation
4.3
6
Variety of patient problems
Teachers modeled positive gender/diversity
attitudes
4.8
6
Teachers modeled respect for other health
professionals
6
I would recommend this rotation to friends
26Oncology London
Question
Average Rating, N35
Time spent in formal teaching sessions
1.6
Time spent on informal clinical teaching
1.9
4.9
Supervisors aware of objectives appropriate for
clerk
4.9
Appropriate level of independence
Evaluation fairly assessed my knowledge and
abilities
4.5
Feedback given throughout rotation
3.8
5.4
Variety of patient problems
Teachers modeled positive gender/diversity
attitudes
5.1
5.4
Teachers modeled respect for other health
professionals
4.9
I would recommend this rotation to friends
27Elder Care Windsor
Question
Average Rating, N4
Time spent in formal teaching sessions
1.8
Time spent on informal clinical teaching
1.8
4.8
Supervisors aware of objectives appropriate for
clerk
4.3
Appropriate level of independence
Evaluation fairly assessed my knowledge and
abilities
4
Feedback given throughout rotation
4.5
4
Variety of patient problems
Teachers modeled positive gender/diversity
attitudes
5
6
Teachers modeled respect for other health
professionals
4.8
I would recommend this rotation to friends
28Elder Care London
Question
Average Rating, N22
Time spent in formal teaching sessions
2.3
Time spent on informal clinical teaching
1.9
5.6
Supervisors aware of objectives appropriate for
clerk
4.9
Appropriate level of independence
Evaluation fairly assessed my knowledge and
abilities
4.8
Feedback given throughout rotation
5.2
5.1
Variety of patient problems
Teachers modeled positive gender/diversity
attitudes
5.5
6.1
Teachers modeled respect for other health
professionals
5.1
I would recommend this rotation to friends
29Ophtho, London
Question
Average Rating, N13
Time spent in formal teaching sessions
1.2
Time spent on informal clinical teaching
1.5
4.6
Supervisors aware of objectives appropriate for
clerk
3.7
Appropriate level of independence
Evaluation fairly assessed my knowledge and
abilities
3.2
Feedback given throughout rotation
2.8
4.1
Variety of patient problems
Teachers modeled positive gender/diversity
attitudes
4.5
5.2
Teachers modeled respect for other health
professionals
3.5
I would recommend this rotation to friends
30ENT, London
Question
Average Rating, N14
Time spent in formal teaching sessions
1.4
Time spent on informal clinical teaching
1.9
4.8
Supervisors aware of objectives appropriate for
clerk
4
Appropriate level of independence
Evaluation fairly assessed my knowledge and
abilities
4.3
Feedback given throughout rotation
3.6
5.5
Variety of patient problems
Teachers modeled positive gender/diversity
attitudes
5.4
5.1
Teachers modeled respect for other health
professionals
4.6
I would recommend this rotation to friends
31Medicine Comments
- Positive
- In Ophtho, opportunity to use slit lamp
- In ENT, good variety and learning of skills in
clinic - London Geriatrics was well-organized with good
intro and opportunities to discuss cases
throughout rotation. - In London Oncology, good practice with hx, px,
and dictations and lots of variety
- Negative
- In Ophtho, scheduling was poor, minimal
role/responsibility for clerks and inadequate
teaching - In ENT, inadequate teaching
- In Windsor Geriatrics, not enough formal teaching
and experience with family docs in nursing homes
not of high utility - In London Geriatrics, schedule not known in
advance and limited independence in psych - In London Oncology, schedule not provided ahead
in advance and inadequate formal teaching with
not enough patient contact
32Medicine Comments
- Positive
- At UH, great team atmosphere, good resident
teaching and independence - At ACE, good resident teaching, team rapport and
multidisciplinary approach - At VIC, good independence, variety and teaching
- Negative
- At UH, more feedback requested throughout
rotation. - At UH, variable experiences and learning
opportunities depending on team size - At ACE, poor variety often more interesting and
acute cases went to CTU diminishing learning
opportunities. - At VIC, many students had poor comments about ER
Triage and floor call on mega-team.
33Medicine Conclusions
- Strengths
- Formal teaching and independence in CTU, working
with allied health, changes to VIC - Areas for Improvement
- Formal teaching in non-CTU blocks
- Informal teaching in CTU blocks
- Advance notice of on-call duties and general
schedules in all blocks - ENT and Ophtho blocks rated poorly overall
- Student Suggestions
- Session on equipment in patient rooms including
02, IV machines, call buttons, etc - Attempt to even out team size and distribute
clerk call schedules evenly - Consider 3 weeks on ACE and 3 weeks on CTU at VIC
- Allow students to go to all12 weeks of medicine
teaching sessions, ie during oncology - Leave Geriatric psych for the 6-week psych block
and focus on medical issues instead, or allow
students to work on consult service. - Noteworthy Teachers
- Drs. Sexton, Vandenburg, Hammond, Dingle,
Vincent, Oncology Borrie, Diachun, Hurwitz, Van
Bussel, Soong (Windsor), Geriatrics Franklin,
Fung, ENT Rehman, Thompson, McManus, Johnson,
Myers, Brymer, Gregor Medicine
34Paediatrics
- Previous BCOE Feedback
- General Strengths
- Windsor ranked very highly
- Exam-style cases in student manual helpful
- Good exposure to procedures in PCCU
- General Weaknesses
- Inadequate formal teaching sessions especially
during CTU and in NICU - Inadequate bedside teaching
- Lack of independence/responsibility
35Paediatrics Windsor
Question
Average Rating, N10
Time spent in formal teaching sessions
2.0
Time spent on informal clinical teaching
2.1
6.4
Supervisors aware of objectives appropriate for
clerk
6.3
Appropriate level of independence
Evaluation fairly assessed my knowledge and
abilities
6.2
Feedback given throughout rotation
5
6.3
Variety of patient problems
Teachers modeled positive gender/diversity
attitudes
6.5
6.5
Teachers modeled respect for other health
professionals
6.7
I would recommend this rotation to friends
36Paediatrics Windsor
Question
Average Rating, N10
6.7
More comfortable communicating with
patients/family
More comfortable examining paeds patients
6.7
6.7
More confident with clinical reasoning skills for
paeds
CLIPP cases were helpful
5.5
5.8
More paeds in years 12 would have increased my
comfort
37Paediatrics Rural
Question
Average Rating, N13
Time spent in formal teaching sessions
1.8
Time spent on informal clinical teaching
2.1
6.1
Supervisors aware of objectives appropriate for
clerk
6.2
Appropriate level of independence
Evaluation fairly assessed my knowledge and
abilities
5.8
Feedback given throughout rotation
5.2
5.6
Variety of patient problems
Teachers modeled positive gender/diversity
attitudes
5.6
5.8
Teachers modeled respect for other health
professionals
6.2
I would recommend this rotation to friends
38Paediatrics Rural
Question
Average Rating, N10
6.2
More comfortable communicating with
patients/family
More comfortable examining paeds patients
6.3
More confident with clinical reasoning skills for
paeds
5.8
CLIPP cases were helpful
6.7
5.2
More paeds in years 12 would have increased my
comfort
39Paediatrics London
Question
Average Rating, N39
Time spent in formal teaching sessions
1.8
Time spent on informal clinical teaching
1.6
5.4
Supervisors aware of objectives appropriate for
clerk
5.4
Appropriate level of independence
Evaluation fairly assessed my knowledge and
abilities
4.8
Feedback given throughout rotation
4.7
5.7
Variety of patient problems
Teachers modeled positive gender/diversity
attitudes
5.2
5.6
Teachers modeled respect for other health
professionals
5.3
I would recommend this rotation to friends
40Paediatrics London
Question
Average Rating, N10
6.2
More comfortable communicating with
patients/family
More comfortable examining paeds patients
6.3
More confident with clinical reasoning skills for
paeds
5.8
CLIPP cases were helpful
6.1
6.2
More paeds in years 12 would have increased my
comfort
41Paediatrics Comments
- Positive
- In Windsor, excellent teaching physicians very
good role models. - In Windsor, great opportunities to follow
patients from ER thru inpatient stay - In Rural, great one-on-one teaching In Chatham,
students supplied with excellent resource binder - In London, ER highly rated for teaching and
variety
- Negative
- In Windsor, very long hours and relatively more
call, limiting time for independent study. - In Windsor, organization could be improved
- For Rural, Tele/Video-Conferencing is not
well-received and call expectations are not clear
and experiences are varied - In London, CTU teams were often too busy with
minimal time for informal teaching - In London, some students were unable to leave by
noon post-call - Lecture series not very well-received
- Lack of mid-rotation feedback at all centres
42Paediatrics Conclusions
- Strengths
- Increased abilities and comfort with paeds, CLIPP
cases, ER, Windsor - Areas for Improvement
- Formal teaching sessions
- Informal teaching in London (relative to
Rural/Windsor) - Mid-rotation feedback
- Student Suggestions
- Lectures should be related to objectives and exam
topics - Attempt to organize a schedule for resident
teaching to clerks during CTU - Put Dr. Tithecotts Resource Manual online
- In Rural centres, allow students to see patients
in ER that are not admitted - Noteworthy Teachers
- Drs. Tithecott, Lacroix, Awuku, Morgan, Lim,
Frewen, Rieder
43OB/GYN
- Previous BCOE Feedback
- General Strengths
- Family doctor teaching during block
- Significantly more hands-on experience in Windsor
- Teaching by clinicians
- General Weaknesses
- Difficulty getting experience and working with
nurses in delivery room - Unclear of responsibilities and expectations
- Pre-rounding thought to be redundant
- Uncertain scheduling of teaching sessions
44OB/GYN Windsor
Question
Average Rating, N12
Time spent in formal teaching sessions
1.4
Time spent on informal clinical teaching
1.7
4.7
Supervisors aware of objectives appropriate for
clerk
5.5
Appropriate level of independence
Evaluation fairly assessed my knowledge and
abilities
5.2
Feedback given throughout rotation
4.5
4.6
Variety of patient problems
Teachers modeled positive gender/diversity
attitudes
5.4
6.1
Teachers modeled respect for other health
professionals
6.2
I would recommend this rotation to friends
45OB/GYN Windsor
Question
Average Rating, N12
5.5
Best clinical teaching was on-call
4.1
Best clinical teaching was in D.R.
Best clinical teaching was in clinic
4.4
Comfortable providing well-woman physicals
5.9
6.5
Comfortable providing antepartum care for
low-risk OB
46OB/GYN London St. Joes
Question
Average Rating, N20
Time spent in formal teaching sessions
1.6
Time spent on informal clinical teaching
1.6
4.3
Supervisors aware of objectives appropriate for
clerk
4.5
Appropriate level of independence
Evaluation fairly assessed my knowledge and
abilities
4.4
Feedback given throughout rotation
4.4
4.5
Variety of patient problems
Teachers modeled positive gender/diversity
attitudes
4.7
4.5
Teachers modeled respect for other health
professionals
3.5
I would recommend this rotation to friends
47OB/GYN London St. Joes
Question
Average Rating, N20
4.3
Best clinical teaching was on-call
4.3
Best clinical teaching was in D.R.
Best clinical teaching was in clinic
4.9
Comfortable providing well-woman physicals
4.7
5.2
Comfortable providing antepartum care for
low-risk OB
48OB/GYN London Vic
Question
Average Rating, N15
Time spent in formal teaching sessions
2
Time spent on informal clinical teaching
1.7
4.9
Supervisors aware of objectives appropriate for
clerk
5.1
Appropriate level of independence
Evaluation fairly assessed my knowledge and
abilities
5
Feedback given throughout rotation
4.1
4.8
Variety of patient problems
Teachers modeled positive gender/diversity
attitudes
5.3
5.4
Teachers modeled respect for other health
professionals
5.1
I would recommend this rotation to friends
49OB/GYN London Vic
Question
Average Rating, N15
4.6
Best clinical teaching was on-call
3.4
Best clinical teaching was in D.R.
Best clinical teaching was in clinic
5.3
Comfortable providing well-woman physicals
5.7
6
Comfortable providing antepartum care for
low-risk OB
50OB/GYN Comments
- Positive
- In Windsor, good variety and independence, lots
of hands-on, especially deliveries - In London-VIC, great clinician-teachers and some
residents were very good teachers. Good
opportunities for deliveries and good generalist
focus. - In London-St.Joes, good teaching from some
clinicians and residents. - Post-call policy followed
- Negative
- In Windsor, learning opportunities were missed,
especially on call. Friday morning formal
teaching was not well-prepared. - In Windsor, not enough emphasis on gyne
- In Chatham, both formal and informal teaching was
lacking - In London-VIC, the nurses in the DR were not
conducive to clerk learning - In London-St.Joes, there was too much
subspecialty work, not enough exposure to routine
physical exam skills. - In London-St.Joes some consultants who were not
interested in teaching clerks or providing
feedback. - In London-St.Joes, the attendance card was felt
to discourage responsible adult learning. - In London-St.Joes, pre-rounding was redundant
- In London-St.Joes, the 2nd clerk on-call had no
work many clerks had 5/6 weekends on-call
51OB/GYN Conclusions
- Strengths
- Increased comfort w antepartum, well-woman care,
hands-on experience, clinics in London - Areas for Improvement
- Formal teaching sessions
- Informal teaching
- Clerk experience at St. Joes, especially on-call
schedule - Student Suggestions
- In Windsor instead of 2 weeks DR, spend 4 weeks
with a preceptor and go to their deliveries - Eliminate 2nd clerk on call or consider full home
call, especially on w/e - Inform clerks ahead of time regarding time
requirement for gyne-onc - Involve nurses in learning in DR maybe one nurse
per shift who will take clerks - Ensure generalist exposure in clinic scheduling
for clerks at St. Joes. - Noteworthy Teachers
- Drs. Patel, Pattinson, Jasey, Maruncic, Usher,
Crumley, MacMillan, Fellows, Penava
52Psychiatry
- Previous BCOE Feedback
- General Strengths
- Very high rating for rural experiences
- Good teaching from clinicians
- General Weaknesses
- More outpatient experience requested
- Too much paperwork
- Child Psych groups too large
53Psychiatry Windsor
Question
Average Rating, N8
Time spent in formal teaching sessions
2.1
Time spent on informal clinical teaching
1.9
5.9
Supervisors aware of objectives appropriate for
clerk
6.5
Appropriate level of independence
Evaluation fairly assessed my knowledge and
abilities
5.4
Feedback given throughout rotation
5.4
6
Variety of patient problems
Teachers modeled positive gender/diversity
attitudes
5.9
6.4
Teachers modeled respect for other health
professionals
6
I would recommend this rotation to friends
54Psychiatry Rural
Question
Average Rating, N18
Time spent in formal teaching sessions
2
Time spent on informal clinical teaching
1.9
6
Supervisors aware of objectives appropriate for
clerk
5.8
Appropriate level of independence
Evaluation fairly assessed my knowledge and
abilities
5.6
Feedback given throughout rotation
5.8
5.9
Variety of patient problems
Teachers modeled positive gender/diversity
attitudes
6
6.3
Teachers modeled respect for other health
professionals
6.5
I would recommend this rotation to friends
55Psychiatry London
Question
Average Rating, N26
Time spent in formal teaching sessions
2
Time spent on informal clinical teaching
1.6
4.8
Supervisors aware of objectives appropriate for
clerk
5.2
Appropriate level of independence
Evaluation fairly assessed my knowledge and
abilities
4.4
Feedback given throughout rotation
4.1
4.4
Variety of patient problems
Teachers modeled positive gender/diversity
attitudes
5
5.5
Teachers modeled respect for other health
professionals
4.5
I would recommend this rotation to friends
56Psychiatry Comments
- Positive
- In Windsor, great preceptors, and especially good
outpatient exposure - In Rural, good independence, teaching and variety
- In London, good opportunity to become more
comfortable with psych patients and mental
illness, good exposure to acute and chronic
problems
- Negative
- In Windsor, some preceptors see fewer patients
- In London, learning during call was minimal,
students often not involved in treatment plan - In London, RMHC ward patients are very chronic
with no active issues and minimal learning points
for clerks - In London, the on-call experience is not ideal
for learning. There are too many learners/nurses
there before midnight and too few after. Often
when students do stay or are called in after
midnight, the post-call policy is not enforced. - Wednesday morning lectures are not well-received
- Child psych often involves no patient interaction
- Exam was not reflective of rotation
57Psychiatry Conclusions
- Strengths
- Increased comfort with psychiatric illness, Rural
and Windsor centres - Areas for Improvement
- Formal teaching sessions
- Informal teaching in London
- On-Call experience in London
- Student Suggestions
- In Windsor try to rotate b/w preceptors to even
out patient numbers per clerk - Eliminate 2nd clerk on call or consider
scheduling one clerk until midnight and the 2nd
after midnight as the residents have done. - Alternate Child Psych times throughout the week
to allow for smaller groups of learners - Increase outpatient exposure in London
- Formal teaching sessions should be better
organized in themes and should be more
interactive/discussions or case-based (as in
Surgery). - Noteworthy Teachers
- Drs. Velehorschi, Chandrasena, Cleto, Lefcoe
58Family Medicine
- Previous BCOE Feedback
- General Strengths
- Excellent variety, independence and informal
teaching on community (4 week) rotation - Excellent example of patient-centered approach
and good variety in academic rotation - General Weaknesses
- Inadequate formal teaching, unclear objectives
and minimal contact with block coordinator during
community (4 week) rotation - Low patient-load and minimal formal teaching
during academic rotation
59Family 2 Weeks Windsor
Question
Average Rating, N7
Time spent in formal teaching sessions
1.6
Time spent on informal clinical teaching
2
5.4
Supervisors aware of objectives appropriate for
clerk
6.3
Appropriate level of independence
Evaluation fairly assessed my knowledge and
abilities
5.9
Feedback given throughout rotation
4.6
5.9
Variety of patient problems
Teachers modeled positive gender/diversity
attitudes
6.3
6.3
Teachers modeled respect for other health
professionals
5.6
I would recommend this rotation to friends
60Family 2 Weeks Windsor
Question
Average Rating, N7
6.1
Emphasized effective patient and family
communication
6.1
Fostered cost-effective approach
Preventative medicine encouraged
6
Encouraged to involve patients in clinical
decisions
5.4
6.1
Teachers demonstrated empathy, respect,
compassion and were non-judgemental towards
patients
61Family 2 Weeks London
Question
Average Rating, N37
Time spent in formal teaching sessions
1.7
Time spent on informal clinical teaching
2
5.8
Supervisors aware of objectives appropriate for
clerk
5.9
Appropriate level of independence
Evaluation fairly assessed my knowledge and
abilities
5.5
Feedback given throughout rotation
5.5
5.3
Variety of patient problems
Teachers modeled positive gender/diversity
attitudes
5.7
6.1
Teachers modeled respect for other health
professionals
5.7
I would recommend this rotation to friends
62Family 2 Weeks London
Question
Average Rating, N37
6
Emphasized effective patient and family
communication
5.7
Fostered cost-effective approach
Preventative medicine encouraged
6
Encouraged to involve patients in clinical
decisions
5.9
6.2
Teachers demonstrated empathy, respect,
compassion and were non-judgemental towards
patients
63Family Medicine 4 Weeks
Question
Average Rating, N38
Time spent in formal teaching sessions
1.8
Time spent on informal clinical teaching
2
5.5
Supervisors aware of objectives appropriate for
clerk
6.2
Appropriate level of independence
Evaluation fairly assessed my knowledge and
abilities
5.6
Feedback given throughout rotation
5.6
6.3
Variety of patient problems
Teachers modeled positive gender/diversity
attitudes
5.8
6.3
Teachers modeled respect for other health
professionals
6.2
I would recommend this rotation to friends
64Family 4 Weeks
Question
Average Rating, N38
6.3
Emphasized effective patient and family
communication
6.1
Fostered cost-effective approach
Preventative medicine encouraged
6.1
Encouraged to involve patients in clinical
decisions
6
6
Teachers demonstrated empathy, respect,
compassion and were non-judgemental towards
patients
65Family Medicine Comments
- Positive
- In Windsor, very good patient exposure,
easy-going preceptors, used to having students
(as compared to rural) - In London academic block, some students felt
clinicians were very dedicated to ensuring a
broad and comprehensive exposure to family
medicine
- Negative
- In London academic block, too few patients
- In London academic block, students complained
about being evaluated on physical exam skills
without being observed - Few formal lectures
- Learning objectives daunting
66Family Medicine Conclusions
- Strengths
- Informal teaching, good focus on
cost-effectiveness, preventative medicine, and
communication skills, good clinician-teachers - Areas for Improvement
- Formal teaching sessions
- Evaluation
- Mid-rotation feedback in Windsor
- Student Suggestions
- Implement morning teaching rounds with residents
(like CTU) involve residents in more
student-teaching - Develop online case-based formal teaching (like
CLIPP) - Offer exposure to variety of clinics including
teen-health, urgent-care, sport-medicine,
palliative, etc. - Provide preceptor and clerk schedule/expectations
ahead of time - Noteworthy Teachers
- Drs. Yanchula, Schumacher, Parr, Sangster, Wong,
Lyons, Schmidt, Hammond, Lent
67Conclusions Systemic Issues
- ISSUES
- Advance notice of schedules. Call policy document
dictates at least 2 weeks notice. - Informal teaching is sacrificed on busy wards.
- Windsor call experience does not capitalize on
learning opportunities.
- SUGGESTIONS
- Admin staff must circulate schedules earlier,
make use of email and websites for communication. - Decrease variability of team sizes. Ensure
protected resident to clerk teaching time, allow
clerks to evaluate residents teaching. - Continue educating nurses and faculty re clerk
role on call.
68Conclusions Systemic Issues
- ISSUES
- ER in London has limited capacity for teaching
clerks. - Only half of the class gets any elder care
teaching. - ENT/OPHTHO ranked poorly and half the class is
assigned there.
- SUGGESTION
- After elder care study complete consider
- Move ER to the medicine block and make the
rotation a one week experience with the same
preceptor throughout. The second week would be a
single week of geriatric medicine. While
geriatric psychiatry is integrated into the
psychiatry block. - Return ENT and OPHTHO to the surgery block as two
week individual selectives. This should permit
students to attend surgery teaching and still get
adequate exposure to that selective.
69Discussion
- What is the Future of BCOE in Clerkship?
- Redundancy with one45
- vs.
- Potential for improvement and importance of
student buy-in