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2PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING LICENSURE
3Prelude Professional Engineering Licensure The
Hyatt Regency Collapse
Presenter Scott A. Sabol, PE Vermont Technical
College
4The Hyatt Regency Walkway BACKGROUND
- 40-story Hyatt Regency in Kansas City, Missouri
opened in 1980 - July 1981 dance event in hotel drew huge crowds
- Many were on elevated, suspended walkways
- 2nd floor walkway directly beneath 4th floor
walkway (3rd floor offset)
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5THE CATASTROPHE
- Based on loading and design/construction error,
some walkways collapsed - gt100 killed
- gt200 injured
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6THE RESULT(SOURCE Lee L. Lowery, Jr., PhD, P.E
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7THE CAUSE
- Construction modification with insufficient/inappr
opriate engineering review
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8ORIGINAL vs. AS-BUILT
- Original
- Built-up box beams suspended by rods
- Each nut assembly holds one floor
- Required long threaded rod length
- As-built
- Separate rods from floor to floor
- Eliminated long threading
- Eased construction
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9WHY DID CHANGE CAUSE PROBLEM? The 2 people on a
rope-swing analogy
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10THE FAILED DETAIL
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11HOW / WHY DID THE CHANGE OCCUR?
- Poor contractor-engineer communications
- Havens Steel
- Jack D. Gillum Assoc.
- Engineer approved change without performing
detailed calculations - Did not meet standard of care
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12THE AFTERMATH
- Missouri Board of Architects, Professional
Engineers, and Land Surveyors stripped the
responsible engineers of their licenses - ASCE revoked their membership
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13What Is A Professional Engineer (PE)?
Presenter Francis Kennedy, PE
14What Is A Professional Engineer (PE)?
- Topics
- Background Professional Engineering
- Legal Requirements
- Why become a registered Professional Engineer?
- Fundamental Canons of Engineering
15Background Professional Engineering
- A century ago, anyone could work as an engineer
without proof of competency. - In order to protect the public health, safety,
and welfare, the first engineering licensure law
was enacted in 1907 in Wyoming. - Now every state regulates the practice of
engineering to ensure public safety by granting
only licensed Professional Engineers (PEs) the
authority to sign and seal engineering plans and
offer their services to the public.
16Legal Requirements
- All states in U.S. and most foreign countries
have Professional Registration laws governing the
practice of engineering - Most states prohibit persons who are not
registered Professional Engineers from - Advertising, using a business card, or otherwise
indicating to the public that they are a
qualified engineer or consulting engineer - Assuming the title of expert engineering witness
- Practicing or offering to practice as a
consulting engineer or expert engineering witness - Teaching in a public engineering school (some
states). - Engineers in industrial practice may be exempted
from some of these laws
17Why Become a Registered PE?
- Prestige
- Tells public that you have mastered the critical
elements of your profession - Authority
- Only PEs can be in responsible charge of an
engineering consulting firm - PEs can serve as qualified expert witness
- Only PEs can sign engineering drawings for public
projects - Higher pay and increased opportunities
- Career development and flexibility
18Fundamental Canons of Engineering (From ASCE Code
of Ethics)
- Engineers shall hold paramount the safety, health
and welfare of the public and shall strive to
comply with the principles of sustainable
development in the performance of their
professional duties. - Engineers shall perform services only in areas of
their competence. - Engineers shall issue public statements only in
an objective and truthful manner. - Engineers shall act in professional matters for
each employer or client as faithful agents or
trustees, and shall avoid conflicts of interest. - Engineers shall build their professional
reputation on the merit of their services and
shall not compete unfairly with others. - Engineers shall act in such a manner as to uphold
and enhance the honor, integrity, and dignity of
the engineering profession. - Engineers shall continue their professional
development throughout their careers, and shall
provide opportunities for the professional
development of those engineers under their
supervision.
19The Process of Becoming a PE
Presenter Matthew J. Low, P.E., SECB
20The Process of Becoming a PE
- Topics
- Who Licenses Professional Engineers?
- What Are The Requirements?
- Existing Licensure Process Model
21Who Licenses Professional Engineers?
- Individual State Boards of Licensure
- NCEES National Council of Examiners of
Engineers and Surveyors (Council of PE Boards) - Maintains and transmits official records for a
fee - Registration with NCEES required by some states
- Streamlines future state applications by comity
22What Are The Requirements?
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- Education
- Examinations
- Fundamentals of Engineering (FE) Exam
- Principles and Practice of Engineering (PE) Exam
- Experience
- Ethics Reputation
23Education Requirements
- ABET Accredited EAC Bachelors Degree
- Alternate Pathways
- Science Bachelors / Engineering Masters
- ABET TAC Degree
- Foreign Degrees
- Some states allow less education with significant
(20 years) experience but that practice is
disappearing - Acronyms
- ABET Accreditation Board for Engineering and
Technologies - EAC Engineering Accreditation Commission
- TAC Technology Accreditation Commission
24Examination Requirements
- Fundamentals of Engineering Examination
- Fee required
- Easiest when taken senior year of college
- No maintenance required of Engineer In Training
status - Some states may waive with significant experience
- Principles and Practices Examination
- Fee required
- Extensive application process which requires
references, detailed work experience record, etc. - Taken after fulfillment of experience
requirements
25Fundamentals of Engineering (FE) Exam
- Day-long (8 Hours) Exam
- Given Nationwide in April and October
- Given at Thayer School every April
- Covers the Topics Normally Studied in an
Undergraduate Engineering Program - Included are mathematics, chemistry, mechanics,
electrical circuits, engineering economics,
electronics, thermodynamics, materials science,
solid mechanics, fluid mechanics, and computer
programming
26Principles and Practice of Engineering (PE) Exam
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- Given Nationwide in April and October
- Day-long (8 Hours) Exam in Two Parts
- General (4 Hours)
- Includes economics, HVAC, thermo, mechanics, etc.
- Specialized (4 Hours)
- You select one area of specialization
- Areas of specialization Chemical, Civil,
Mechanical, Electrical, Environmental,
Structural, Aeronautical, Agricultural,
Manufacturing, Control Systems, Metallurgical,
Fire Protection, Mining, Industrial, Nuclear,
Petroleum
27Experience Requirements
- Typically Four Years Engineering Experience or
Three With an Engineering Masters - Non-engineering work will not count toward your
experience - Requires Letters of Reference From Several PEs
Familiar With Your Work - 3 for NH, 5 for NCEES
- Engineering Experience Must Show Increasing Scope
Responsibility - Record your accomplishments in detail START NOW
- Some states require evidence such as your
drawings or calculations
28Ethics Reputation Requirements
- NH Requires You Pass an Ethics Examination
- Keep Your Reputation Clean!
- Abide by all laws governing practice of
engineering in the State in which registered - Avoid any misconduct, whether personal,
professional, or legal - Build Working Relationships With Other PEs
- Experience requirement mandates working with a PE
- You will need references/recommendations from
several PEs to apply for PE exam
29Existing Licensure Process Model
- Fundamentals of Engineering Examination
- ABET EAC Bachelors Degree
- Engineer-in-Training
- Four Years Engineering Experience
- Principles and Practices Examination
- NH Engineering Ethics Examination
- Licensed Professional Engineer
- Continuing Professional Development
30PE License Maintenance
Presenter Gary Phetteplace, PE
31Maintenance Fees
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32Maintenance Continuing Education
- Many states now have continuing education
requirements as a condition of PE license
renewal. - Both the amount of continuing education required
and what meets the requirements vary by state. - Some states allow their continuing education
requirements to be met by comity i.e. if there
are requirements in your state of residency and
you meet them you will be considered to have met
the requirements in the jurisdiction of other
states.
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33Maintenance Continuing Education
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34Maintenance Continuing EducationNH Regulations
- Each licensee shall obtain at least 30
professional development hours of approved
continuing education courses during the biennial
renewal period as a condition of license renewal. - If a licensee exceeds the requirement, a maximum
of 15 professional development hours may be
carried forward into the subsequent renewal
period.
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35Maintenance Continuing EducationNH Regulations
- New licensees shall be exempt from obtaining
professional development hours for their first
biennial renewal period. - Licensees who are residents of jurisdictions
other than New Hampshire shall meet the
continuing professional development or equivalent
requirements of their resident jurisdiction. The
requirements for the State of New Hampshire shall
be satisfied when a non-resident licensee
provides evidence of having met the requirements
of their resident jurisdiction. - If licensees reside in a jurisdiction that has no
continuing professional development requirements,
the resident shall meet the requirements of the
State of New Hampshire.
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36Maintenance Continuing EducationNH Regulations
- Continuing education activities shall be relevant
to the practice of engineering or no credit shall
be awarded. Such continuing education activities
may include technical, ethical, or managerial
content. - The content of each presentation shall be well
organized and presented in a sequential manner. - The participant in a CE course/program is
required to maintain records.
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37Maintenance Continuing EducationNH Regulations
- Teaching or instructing qualifying courses or
seminars or making presentations at technical
meetings shall earn professional development
hours credit at twice that of participants. - Each professional journal, published paper,
article or published engineering text book shall
equal 30 professional development hours. - Active participation in professional or technical
societies shall equal 2 professional development
hours and shall require that a registrant serve
as an officer and/or actively participate in a
committee of the organization. (Professional
development hour credits shall not be earned
until each year service is completed and shall be
limited to 2 professional development hours per
organization) - Credit awarded for one patent shall equal 10
professional development hours. - Professional development credits shall not be
recognized for any repeat program attended or
completed.
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38Maintenance Continuing EducationNH Regulations
- Its the responsibility of the licensee to
maintain records to be used to support CE credits
claimed. - A log must be maintained showing the type of
activity claimed, sponsoring organization,
location, instructors or speakers name, and
professional development hours credits earned. - Attendance verification records are needed in the
form of completion certificates or other
documents supporting evidence of attendance such
as signed attendance receipts, paid receipts, or
a copy of a listing of attendees signed by a
person sponsoring the course or program or the
course/program provider. - The licensee shall retain attendance verification
records for a period of at least 4 years. - Not less than 5 of the licensees shall be
randomly selected each year by the board for
compliance.
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39Maintenance Continuing Education
- NCEES maintains a registry of Continuing
Education providers, see www.rcep.net/rcep/ for
details. - This website also has a list of the continuing
education requirements for each state and links
to the state regulations.
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40Maintenance NCEES Record
- As mentioned earlier, NCEES record is required by
some states and may be useful even where not
required for those who need to get registered in
new jurisdictions and do so rapidly. - Annual cost of maintaining an NCEES record is
25. - Only one updated reference is required per year.
- Cost of record transmittal to a state board is
60.
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41PE License Maintenance
- Maintain Good Professional Character
- Abide by all laws governing practice of
engineering and ethics in the State in which
registered. For NH the Engineering Ethical
Standards begin with The professional engineer
shall hold paramount the safety, health, and
welfare of the public - Public statements only in an objective and
truthful manner - Avoid conflicts of interest
- Accept work only on the basis of qualifications
- Perform services in an ethical and lawful manner
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42Benefits of Becoming a PE
Presenter Jennifer Marrs, PE
43Benefits of Becoming a PE
- Topics
- Personal Benefits
- Career Benefits
- Private Practice
44Personal Benefits
- Prestige Authority
- License is proof of high level of commitment
- License is proof of mastery
- License is proof of ethical fidelity deserves
trust - The difference between a profession and just a
job - PE is an individual credential, not job dependent
- PE designation after name, similar to MD
- Career Flexibility
- Economic advantages
- Personal fulfillment
45Career Benefits
- Credentials Give You a Competitive Edge
- Economic Change Requires Flexibility, Mastery
- New Job Options With PE License
- Some Corporate Jobs (Some States, Some
Specialties) - Some Public Sector / Government Jobs
- Some Government Contracts Grants
- Teaching (Some States)
- Forensic Engineering (Engineering Expert Witness)
- Private Practice (Consulting Contracting)
46Private Practice
47Private Practice
- License Required in Most States to Sell
Engineering Services to Any Entity, Including
Corporate Clients - This includes contracting, consulting
- Your business insurance policy may also require
licensure - Simply Avoiding the Word Engineering Is Not
Enough! - State laws define what actions constitute the
practice of engineering - Usually actions like making drawings or
performing calculations constitute practice of
engineering - Some States Have Exemptions
- Example VT exempts anyone involved in design or
manufacture of a product - Check Your State Laws for Guidance
48Ten Reasons to NOT get your PE License
Presenter E. Smith Reed, PE
49 Ten NINE Reasons to NOT get your PE License
509.
519. It costs money.
52 NH VTFE (EIT) Exam 150 125PE
Application 225 100PE Exam
150 235Annual Renewal 75/yr 50/yr
538.
548. For the exam, ya gotta go out and
buy a new calculator!
558. For the exam, ya gotta go out and
buy a new calculator! . . . and then
learn how to use it . . .
567.
577. You'll probably need to take a
refresher course
587. You'll probably need to take a
refresher course . . . which takes time
597. You'll probably need to take a
refresher course . . . which takes
time . . . and you have to do
problem sets
607. You'll probably need to take a
refresher course . . . which takes
time . . . and you have to do
problem sets . . . . something youll
not have
done in years !
61typical refresher class structure
- six Saturdays - 800 am to 600 pm
- - or -
-
- twelve Wednesdays - 630 pm to 930 pm
- - plus -
- two Saturdays - 900 am to 200 pm
626. This refresher course will take more
money
63- Kaplan course 160
- ENSYS course 2,400 ( - up to 2,995 )
- PPi course 1,000 books
- PE Review Books 40 to 400
645.
655. There's a REAL chance you won't even
pass! ( a chance you'll be a FAILURE!
)
665. There's a REAL chance you won't even
pass! ( a chance you'll be a FAILURE!
) . . . which takes time money
67 FE (EIT) Exam Failure Rates
ExaminationModule First-timetakers who FAIL Repeattakers who FAIL
Chemical 18 54
Civil 30 71
Electrical 33 71
Environmental 24 66
Industrial 34 73
Mechanical 19 68
General 26 71
68 PE Exam Failure Rates
ExaminationModule First-timetakers who FAIL Repeattakers who FAIL
Chemical 21 66
Civil 40 75
Electrical 30 74
Environmental 27 57
Industrial 21 68
Mechanical 30 62
Petroleum 27 53
694.
704. Many (most?) employers don't really
care.
713.
723. Your girlfriend (boyfriend) won't
know the difference . . .
733. Your girlfriend (boyfriend) won't
know the difference . . . (. . .
duhhhh . . . )
743. Your girlfriend (boyfriend) won't
know the difference . . . . . . people
you want to impress would be more
impressed by an MBA, or a PhD . . .
752.
762. In five more years, . . . you'll
have forgotten all that stuff.
772. In five more years, . . . you'll
have forgotten all that stuff. - again !
781.
791. Even if you get your PE license,
801. Even if you get your PE license,
they probably won't let you teach the gym
class anyway . . .
81Professional Engineering Licensure Resources
Presenter Scott A. Sabol, PE Vermont Technical
College
82NATIONAL COUNCIL of EXAMINERS for ENGINEERING and
SURVEYING (NCEES)
- Creator/scoring agency for the FE and PE exams
- www.ncees.org
- Information on
- Test dates
- Test format
- Allowable reference and other material
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83NCEES (contd)
- Information on
- Review materials
- Including FE Handbook
- Professional licensure records program
- State engineering board contacts
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84NCEES EXAMPLE REFERENCE
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85Professional Publications, Inc.
- www.ppi2pass.com
- Exam-specified references/specs
- Review products
- FE Review Manual (FERM)
- money back guarantee
- EIT Reference Manual
- Various PE review Manuals
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86EXAMPLE PPI PRODUCT
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87PPI (contd)
- Discussion forums
- Review course listing
- Independently offered ones can post notice
- Comment Roam the website carefully not the
easiest to navigate
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88YOUR STATE BOARD
- Their information trumps anything found on other
sources! - Often under the Secretary of State
- VT http//www.vtprofessionals.org/opr1/engineers/
- NH
- http//www.nh.gov/jtboard/pe.htm
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89KAPLAN AEC EDUCATION
- http//www.kaplanaecengineering.com/
- Similar offerings to PPI
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90STATE/NATIONAL ENGINEERING SOCIETIES
- Vermont Society of Professional Engineers
- New Hampshire Society of Professional Engineers
- National Society of Professional Engineers
- ASCE-ASME-IEEE and others
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91OTHER RESOURCES EXIST
- Ask a colleague!
- Check university websites
- Hofstra, Wisconsin-Madison
- Some in-person some distance
- Most colleges/universities have an FE review
course (some a PE) - Not all resources of equal quality
- SERM?CERM ?MERM ?FERM
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92QUESTIONS?
Thank You For Your Attention!