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Title: Ensembles 2nd General Assembly Crosscutting session on weighting


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Ensembles 2nd General AssemblyCross-cutting
session on weighting
  • Five prepared summaries
  • Clare Goodess Introduction/overview
  • James Murphy GCM viewpoints
  • Paco Doblas-Reyes s2d model viewpoints
  • Filippo Giorgi RCM viewpoints
  • Andy Morse S2D impact viewpoints
  • Tim Carter Climate change impact viewpoints

Ensembles 2nd GA, Weighting session, 5 September
2005Rapporteur Lars Bärring
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  • Clare Goodess General questions
  • Is weighting a necessary and appropriate
    technique?
  • How should weights be calculated?
  • How should weights be used to construct PDFs and
    other forms of probabilistic scenarios?
  • Can weights from GCMs RCMs and SDS, and for ACC
    and s2d, be combined?
  • Can weights from impacts models also be combined?
  • At what stage(s) should the weighting be applied
    in an integrated (from the coupled model, through
    the downscaling to the application model)
    prediction system be carried out?
  • How can the performance of a weighted prediction
    be compared with an unweighted one?

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James Murphy
Towards PDFs of regional climate change from
perturbed physics ensembles in RT1
  • Three broad methodological categories in the
    literature at present
  • Direct use of GCM ensembles without formal
    application of observational constraints
  • Methods designed to be constrained by
    observations, and, as far as possible,
    model-independent
  • Methods designed to give results dependent on
    both observational constraints and GCM ensemble
    distributions

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James Murphy Summary
  • Significant progress since the IPCC TAR, but much
    still to do.
  • Results depend on choices such as
  • what uncertainties are sampled in the chosen
    ensemble of models
  • the constraining observations
  • prior distributions for uncertain inputs
  • whether or not, and how, to weight ensemble
    members
  • what should control the range of outcomes (e.g.
    observational uncertainties, ensemble spread).
  • No obvious basis for choosing a best method
    yet, but the sensitivity of results to
    experimental choices should be quantified as far
    as possible.

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Paco Doblas-Reyes Some answers from s2d
  • Is weighting appropriate? Yes, when robust
  • How should the weights be computed? Using
    hindcasts and in a robust way
  • How do weights relate to PDFs? The combination
    method should be probabilistic
  • Can weights from different systems be combined?
    Good question
  • Can weights from impact models also be combined?
    Combination/calibration can be carried out
    at any stage of the forecast process
  • The performance should be compared with an
    unweighted/uncalibrated prediction

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Filippo Giorgi The reliability ensemble
average (REA) method
  • different components
  • individual model biases to present day observed
    climate
  • natural variability in 30 year observational
    series
  • model convergence to ensemble mean of future
    climate
  • planned developments
  • now only temperature, also include precipitation,
    and ...

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Andy Morse Case study, s2d context
  • Conclusion for that method, weighting seems
    most appropriate after application model stage

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Tim Carter Weighting some issues relevant
to impact modelling
  • Climate inputs
  • Non-climate inputs
  • Impact model uncertainties
  • Interactions and feedbacks

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Tim Carter Climate change impact
  • Impact modellers can handle weighted climate
    inputs in the same way as unweighted climate
    inputs, but there may be need for
  • consistent weighting of non-climate scenarios
  • refinement of impact evaluation methods
  • consideration of feedbacks
  • In principle, impact outcomes could be weighted
    based on impact model performance. In practice,
    it is uncertain if this will occur in ENSEMBLES

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OPEN DISCUSSION (1)
  • no alternative to weighting, i.e. cannot avoid
    the issue, -- either deliberate weighting or
    equal weights
  • any weighting scheme should account for
    structural deficiencies in the models
  • suggestion a weighting scheme should not be
    tailored to any specific application --
    flexibility needed
  • suggestion a weighting scheme should include
    many variables, (every variable in the
    ENSEMBLES standard set) not only
    monthly/annual mean temperature and precipitation
  • suggestion to have a straw man developing an
    example as basis for further more focussed
    discussions

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OPEN DISCUSSION (2)
  • can weighting be used to root out unbelievable
    model runs etc. -- if so, such a process need
    to be transparent
  • different impact models will maybe use different
    sub-ensembles (based on performance
    evaluation)
  • different impact models will have different
    requirements regarding performance of driving
    models in case study regions, etc ...
  • ... and during specific calibration periods when
    other calibration data is available
  • suggestion for development of guidelines for a
    standard ensemble to be used

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Clare Goodess Weighting in the end-to-end
approach (s2d context)
Seasonal forecast

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Weighting in the end-to-end approach (ACC context)
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3 SRES Scenarios

7 Global models
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10-? Regional model runs

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Impact models

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  • risk for double counting gt transparency in
    assumptions

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OPEN DISCUSSION (3)
  • difference between end-users driven by s2d
    time-scale (agriculture, electricity/power,
    ...) and those driven by longer time-scales
    (infra- structure construction, forestry, ...)
  • discussion on that different end-user/stakeholder
    categories may have widely different needs --
    and competence to express their needs -- and
    to ingest different types and time-scales of
    climate projections
  • suggestion to continue the discussion in a
    specific group, based on the present ad hoc
    group, also with representatives from RT4
    fundamental process and model uncertainties,
    uncertainties in extremes RT5
    observations, model validation RT7 scenario
    uncertainties and feedback

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