Title: Facing an audit Boon or Bane
1Facing an audit Boon or Bane?
- R Raghunandanan
- Pharma Consultant
- Mumbai
- IPA Mumbai 24th May 2008
2Agenda
- Introduction
- Pre-audit preparations
- During audit process
- Post-audit preparations
- Dos and Donts
3Introduction
- What audits we face
- Regulatory audits
- Customer audits
- Internal audits
- Other audits like ISO, HSE etc.
4Introduction
- Why audits
- Regulatory audits
- For assessing compliance status
- For approving new facilities
- For issuing mfg permissions
- For renewing licenses, periodic visits
- For investigations (recall, serious complaints,
counterfeits etc.)
5Introduction
- Why audits
- Customer audits
- For due diligence
- Assessing business feasibility
- Assessing technical capabilities
- Assessing facility status
- Assessing system status
- Post audit follow up
- Routine / periodic reviews
6Introduction
- Why audits
- Internal audit
- Improvement audits
- Compliance status
- Sarbanes-Oxley audit
- System audits (after certain events like recall,
adverse events) - Pre-regulatory audits
- Corporate Quality audits
7Introduction
- Why audits
- Other audits
- Specific business requirements
- Pre-certification audits
- Certification maintenance audits
- (Examples ISO 9001, ISO 14001, OHSAS 18001
etc.)
8Introduction
- Benefits of successful audits
- New business opportunities
- Business continuity
- Market leadership advantages
- Easier and faster regulatory approvals
9Introduction
- Audits help you
- Identify your strengths
- Identify your problem areas
- Get solutions
- Get recognition
- Keeping high employee morale
- Audits are worth the time and money, always
10Internal audit Vs External audit
- Internal audit focused on internal quality
improvement - Internal auditors are there to help you
- Regulators priority is not quality improvement,
it is compliance assessment - Regulators first commitment is to patient
- Regulators are enforcement agencies, assisting
you to solve your problem is not their job!
11Basic preparations
- Audit preparedness what is it?
- It is more than just preparation!
- It is a systematic stage wise exercise
- Prepared well, prepared in time prepared to
win!
12Basic preparations
- Are we audit ready ? Everyday ?
- Ideally Should be !
- Theoretically Yes !!
- Practically No!!!
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13Preparations to face the audit
- Four stages
- 1. Preaudit
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- 2. During the Audit
- 3. Post audit
- 4. Also ongoing or audit specific
14Pre audit preparations
15Do your home work systematically
- Have an SOP for Inspection Preparedness
- Senior management must own the process
- Define responsibilities, who will do what
- Audit is an important business process
- You have to sell your company by
- Clearly trumpeting your strengths
- Expressing your willingness to improve
16Who help the audit run smooth
- Identify and nominate
- Inspection Readiness Team Leader (ideally a
senior member of QA) - Inspection Readiness Team
- Host (or Spokesman)
- Control Room In-charge
- Subject Matter Experts (SME)
- Scribe (Note takers)
- Escorts
- Runners (Messengers)
- Scout (a pilot car equivalent)
17Team selection
- People decide the fate of the audit (at least
50) - Pick up the right people
- Knowledgeable
- Competent
- Confident
- Honest
- Credible
- Good communication skills
18The man at the helm
- Inspection Readiness Team Leader
- Carefully choose him/her
- A go-getter QA senior
- A self motivator
- Good knowledge of all site processes
- Good control over the site CAPA process
- Good man management skills
19The working team
- Inspection readiness team
- Form it in advance
- Members from QA, QC, Mfg, Eng, RD, Regulatory,
HR, Warehouse - Meet periodically
- Review the preparations
- Take remedial / corrective actions for issues
identified
20The winning team
- Inspection management team
- Senior management team
- Form it in advance
- Senior managers from QA, QC, Mfg, Eng, RD,
Regulatory, HR - Meet periodically
- Review actions by Inspection readiness team
- Give directions and exercise controls
21Host or Spokesman
- Site Head or Senior QA Head
- First contact for auditors
- Projects the company
- Makes the opening presentation
- Puts the auditors at ease
- Promises all support
- Symbolizes company to the auditor
22Control Room Leader
- A senior person from any department
- Has to handle all documents
- High level of alertness
- Ability to manage multi document requests
simultaneously - Good man manager
23Subject Matter Experts (SMEs)
- Host or senior managers may not be able to answer
all queries of auditors - SMEs are experts in their field
- Must know all the processes in their functions
- Should have good presentation skills
- Good command over the language
24Scribes (note takers)
- Silent listeners of all that is spoken by the
auditors - Writes down
- what inspectors are asking
- what comments they are making
- whom they have spoken with
- what inspectors have seen or observed
- Should have good skills to listen and observe
- Should have good computer skills
- Patient and good communicator
25Escorts
- Will be with the auditors all the time
- Usually senior managers
- Preferably one who has auditing experience
- Accompanies the auditors on site tour
- Does not involve in discussions with the auditor
and the dept manager - Should be able to defuse a difficult situation
26Runners (messengers)
- They are communicators
- Takes messages from escorts, dept managers to
control room or SMEs - Passive in inspection
- Active in their job
- Much of the audit success lies in getting the
documents in time - Select those with good interpersonal relations,
smart and fast
27Scout (a pilot car!)
- Scout is the man ahead of the auditor
- He is the signal for the host dept
- Helps in letting you know where the inspector is
- Passive in inspection
- Alert in their job
- Auditor may change the route or even go back to
the last dept
28Inspection room (the battlefield!)
- Meeting room
- Quiet, comfortable
- Necessary infrastructure like LCD projectors,
white boards, flip charts, markers - Telephone facilities
- Food, water and beverage arrangements to
auditors liking - Garment, footwear, headwear, helmet, mask,
umbrella size and quality both matters!
29External arrangements
- Accommodation
- Location, comfort, meeting their standards (ideal
to check in advance) - Transport arrangements
- Airport / railway station pick-up
- Pick-up and drop during audit days
- Car safety, seat belts etc.
- Stand by car and guide
30Control room
- Document management room (war room!)
- Close to inspection room
- Adequately spaced
- Documents segregated dept wise
- Easily accessible to check, provide and retrieve
- Visibility of what is asked for, what is given
and what is received back - Controlled access, train the staff
31Run a mock inspection
- By senior managers from different sites/areas
- Simulate the process
- Follow the SOP
- Identify improvement areas
- Take corrective actions
- Retrain people
- Any amount of preparation is not a waste
32Collect prior information
- Get to know details of the auditor in advance
- Name Title, spelling, pronunciation
- Background, specialization, industry exposure
- Nature Tough, resistant, understanding,
egoistic, easy going - Recent industry experiences
33Auditors hotspots
- Auditors look for areas where patient risk is
highest - Deviations
- Change control
- OOS results
- Customer complaints
- Adverse events
- Laboratory controls
- Validation
- Risk management
34Keep your information ready
- Auditor is new to your process, keep brief
presentations ready - Process flow
- Major quality processes
- Deviation management
- Change control
- Complaint handling
- OOS, APQR
- Validation
- Maintenance and calibration
- Rehearse on these in advance
35Prepare yourself
- Do health check on
- Calibration status and status labelling
- Warehouse segregation and status labelling
- SOP validity
- Updating of complaint logs
- Reference substances data
- Staff training records
- Cleanliness and hygiene (must be a priority
always, not just for audit)
36During audit
37Arrival on the Dday
- First impression matters
- Housekeeping top priority
- Organized reception at gate by security
- Inform company policy on match box, lighters,
cell phone, camera - Entry passes as per policy
- Safety and evacuation procedures card
38Reception
- Senior Managers must
- Meet the auditor when he comes in
- Greet him (flowers not preferred)
- Offer welcome drinks (no wines please!)
- Spend few minutes (not more than 5 min)
- No photos, no videos
- Inform him about wash rooms, lunch break, tea and
beverages availability etc.
39Beginning
- Host takes charge now
- Check if the auditor wants to make a presentation
or give a plan for the day - Check if you can make a brief presentation about
the company and business - Be brief (not more than 5 to 7 minutes)
- Keep a presentation on Quality philosophy ready
to be made if asked - Keep a presentation on the process flow ready
40Sequence - his choice
- May vary from audit to audit or auditor to
auditor - May start with review of last audit compliance
report - May start with CAPA review
- May start with plant tour
- Do not offer a sequence, let him suggest
- Once agreed start off
41Systems approach
- Some auditors may follow systems approach for
auditing - Facility management
- Equipment management
- Material and Product controls
- Packaging and labelling
- Laboratory controls
42Out on plant / lab tour
- Escorts must accompany all the time
- Scout walks ahead
- Scribes behind
- Dept manager at the dept
- Dept manager shall respond to questions
- Escort butt in only in an eventuality
- Answer only what is asked
- Do not volunteer more than what is asked for
- Be frank, if you dont know say so, offer another
expert (SME) to answer on your behalf - Never, never, never lie to an auditor
43Out on plant / lab tour
- Never make exceptions for the auditor
- Remember the audit is not just a facility audit,
it is a process audit too - Plant / lab activities must run as usual
- People should not be hanging around without
activity - Special attention to some specific processes like
- Aseptic operations
- API final bagging
- Sterility testing
- Auditors may spend long time at these processes
44Out on plant / lab tour
- Auditor will look at the process practices
- Will ask questions to staff
- Tally the process and practices with SOPs
- Will look for unauthorized copies of SOPs
- Lab is very vulnerable area for
- Unofficial records
- Scribbling pads, discarded chromatograms etc.
- May ask same question to different staff to
validate the answer - Allow dept staff to answer
- Escort intervenes only if communication collapses
45Out on plant / lab tour
- When auditor is on his job
- Scribe notes down everything that happens
- Scribe takes note of any document auditor wants
to see on site or back in inspection room - Runners on job to get whatever is asked
- Escort and dept manager
- Should observe everything
- Look where the auditor is looking
- See what the auditor is seeing
- Listen to what he is commenting
- Understand his body language
46Back in inspection room
- Discussion on what he observed
- Involve SMEs to answer /present
- If required call the dept manager to explain
- Offer to revisit the site if desired to verify
- Document review
- Most critical phase
- provide only what is asked for
- Experts to sanitize all that is provided
- Scribes play a major role now
- Control room alertness at the peak now
47Back in inspection room
- Document clarifications
- Involve SMEs
- Time taken to provide documents is crucial
- Anticipate what is coming next (scribes)
- Communicate to control room
- Through slips
- Through sametime chats (scribes)
- Control room should know what is happening in the
inspection room
48Coming to an end
- Host should request for daily feedback
- Limit the attendance
- Clarify misunderstanding if any
- Seek clarifications if any
- Once recorded and with your node, its is not
possible to change - Offer to rectify minor issues before the end of
the audit - Check on plan for the next day
- Arrange for safe departure
- In case you have a dinner, confine to general
topics, nothing on your business/audit
49Site wash up meeting
- Host should call for an in-house review meeting
at the end of each day - Include all those who were part of the audit
- Review what went well
- Review what did not go well or as expected
- Discuss and decide on damage control
- Prepare for tomorrow
- Inform everyone what is promised for tomorrow
- Do not forget to thank everyone!!
50Secrets of the trade
- Be balanced during the whole audit
- Be confident while answering
- Do not challenge, politely disagree if you are
very sure - You should know when to retract
51How to handle a team?
- Remember, there may be more than one auditor
- They may split and take different routes
- Be equipped to handle the situation
- Two sets of people to be ready
52How to handle an unannounced audit ?
Be in a state of inspection readiness always !!
53Post audit
54Post mortem?
- Do an after action review (AAR)
- What went well
- What did not go well
- What could be done better for future
55Still a lot to do
- While awaiting for the report
- Update senior management on outcome
- Anticipate any major consequences
- Consider alternatives for just in case
- Action the obvious non-conformances
- Start working on CAPA
- Summarize all observations by all participants
and make a learning folder - Share the learning within the site and other
sister sites
56Responding to report
- Response should go from a senior manager
- Start with thanking the auditor
- Reassure your commitments to ensure quality and
compliance - Your plans for closing the observations
- Point wise responses
- Provide examples if required how a point will be
closed - Provide clear dates of completion
57Some Dos and Donts
58Take the bull by the horns?
- Do not confront
- You will not win
- So win him over to your side
59Choose your responses correctly
- If I remember right ..
- Means you are not sure
- When you are in charge, you must be sure
- If you dont remember, ask another person to
answer - Inspector does not expect you to answer
everything - Do not spoil the show
- Not acceptable words
60Choose your responses correctly
- Normally it happens this way
- Means this is not always what happens
- There are abnormal things happening
- You dont want to commit
- You will be coaxed to say what else happens
- Not an acceptable answer
61Choose your responses correctly
- Not us, another dept has done it
- Remember you are not speaking to your boss
- You are speaking to an auditor
- Do not play games here
- Will show lack of inter-dept co-ordination
- Not an acceptable answer
62Choose your responses correctly
- To be really honest with you ..
- OR
- To tell you the truth
- Means previously you were not so honest and true
- Raises suspicion in the auditors mind
- He may ask for replay !!
- Do not break the trust you built in so far
- Not an acceptable answer
63Choose your responses correctly
- It is too expensive
- The most negative answer to an auditor
- Savings not at the cost of quality
- Suggest alternatives
- Suggest phased implementation
- He will be happy to see your commitment
64Be wary of the Long silence technique
- Auditor asks you a question
- You answer
- Auditor listens
- Auditor maintains a long silence (purposely)
- You become anxious to break the silence
- You add more to the answers (mostly unwanted!)
- Auditor got enough to grill you!
- Dont be over anxious to break the silence,
answer only to the point, not a word more
65The language muddle
- Never speak behind the auditor in a language not
known to him - If an operator is not able to understand the
auditors language, you should let him know first
that you will seek his response in the local
language and then translate for him - Watch your body language too be polite,
patient, attentive, respectful - Auditor is a human being, and he is helping you
66Unofficial is also official
- Never speak any so called unofficial thing with
the auditor - There is nothing unofficial for an auditor when
he is at your site, everything he sees and hears
is official
67Cultural differences
- Understand auditors cultural background
- There is no bar on religion, caste, region and
language between auditor and auditee - Both are professionals
- Both are inter-dependent
- Both are doing their jobs
- Create a win-win situation
68You learn from experience You learn better from
bad experience
69Thank You and Good Luck