Title: First Presbyterian Church Aurora
1First Presbyterian Church Aurora
- Informational Meetings
- March 14, 15, 19
2Scriptural Basis
- 2 Timothy 316
- All scripture is God breathed and is useful for
teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in
righteousness. - John 1510
- If you obey my commands, you will remain in my
love, just as I have obeyed my Fathers commands
and remain in his love.
3Session Motion
- The session recommends that the congregation
request the Presbytery of Blackhawk to dismiss
the First Presbyterian Church of Aurora to the
Evangelical Presbyterian Church.
4What you will See and Hear
- This is a lengthy process
- This was not a reaction
- The Spirit of the Lord is moving at FPC
- Scripture
- Unanimity
- Nobody is angry
- We simply disagree/are not a match
- The best days are ahead of us
5Objectives
- Transparency in the decision making process
- Questions and concerns addressed
- Respect for people and ideas
- Unanimity going forward
- Honor for our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ
6Thoughts
- Write down your questions
- This is a lot of information
- Come back we can give you more info/time
7First Presbyterian Church
- A Brief History of PCUSA
- First Pres Efforts
8HISTORICAL BACKGROUND
- Adopting Act of 1729
- Doctrinal Deliverance of 1910
- Auburn Affirmation of 1924
- Confession of 1967
9A BRIEF HISTORY OF RECENT GENERAL ASSEMBLY
MEETINGS
- Whats the big deal about Jesus?
- 2001 GA
- 2002 GA
- 2003 GA
- 2004 GA
10A BRIEF HISTORY OF RECENT GENERAL ASSEMBLY
MEETINGS
- 2006 GA
- PUP
- Trinity Paper
- Pro-abortion
112008 GA
- 1. Passed a new AI to the Book of Order
which gives Sessions and Presbyteries freedom to
ordain persons in violation of the provisions in
the Book of Order
122008 GA
- 2. Removed existing AIs which supported
Biblical morality. PJCs will no longer be
able to cite these in support of Biblical
morality.
132008 GA
- 3. New constitutional amendment which would
replace the current language in G6.0106b which
prohibits ordaining unrepentant practicing
homosexuals .
142008 GA
- 4. Approved changing the language of the
Heidelberg Catechism to remove a reference to
homosexual perversion
152008 GA
- 5. Jesus is one of several viable ways to know
and worship God and . - all three Abrahamic faiths are part of one
larger family of God.
16FIRST PRES HISTORY
- CCC formed in 2004
- Congregation was given a survey on core beliefs
and asked to respond with level of agreement on
10 statements. - 1 Strongly Disagree
- 2 Disagree
- 3 No Opinion
- 4 Agree
- 5 Strongly Agree
17First Pres Survey Questions
- The human writers of the Bible were completely
inspired by the Holy Spirit so that the Bible is
free from human error. - Our Lord Jesus Christ was born of the Virgin
Mary. - Jesus Christ physically died on the cross to save
us from our sins.
18First Pres Survey Questions
- On the third day, Jesus physically arose from
the dead and with that same body, He ascended
into heaven and there sits on the right hand of
God. -
- The Lord Jesus showed His divine power over
nature by working mighty miracles. -
19First Pres Survey Questions
-
- Jesus Christ alone is Lord and Savior and none
come to the Living God except through Him.
20First Pres Survey Questions
- Our Church should not ordain practicing
homosexuals as church leaders and pastors. -
- Life is God-given and begins at the moment of
conception. -
21First Pres Survey Questions
-
- Partial birth abortion is not an acceptable
practice even if the woman and the doctor agree
to do it. -
- Moral absolutes do exist.
22FIRST PRES HISTORY
- 2005 - Voluntary Per Capita approved
- 2006 - Small Group education meetings
- 2008 - Covenant Network
- 2009 - Letter from Session to Blackhawk
23FIRST PRES HISTORY
- 10 Overtures presented to Blackhawk since 2005
24OVERTURE ON MARRIAGE( BLACKHAWK PASSED 69-59)
PRESENTED AT 2006 GA AND WAS REJECTED AT GA
- Marriage between a man and a woman is a gift God
has given to all humankind for the well-being of
the entire human family. - No sexual union outside the bonds of marriage,
such as in domestic partnerships or same-sex
unions, is within the will of God or approved by
this body.
25OVERTURE ON BIBLICAL INERRANCY(BLACKHAWK
REJECTED VOICE VOTE)
- Affirm the words of the Holy Scriptures ..
- We call upon those being ordained as officers in
our denomination to affirm the words of the Holy
Scriptures ..
26OVERTURE ON PASTORAL COUNSEL FOR SEXUAL SIN
(BLACKHAWK REJECTED 51/62)
- Offer pastoral counsel and support toward
repentance, forgiveness, and new life in Christ
to all those struggling, sometimes failing, to
live a life in accordance with biblical standards
.
27OVERTURE ON SEXUALITY CURRICULA AND MATERIALS NOT
CONSISTENT WITH BIBLICAL TEACHING (BLACKHAWK
REJECTED 53/60)
- Remove and discard all materials that fail to
conform to the biblical standard of reserving
sexual relationships to marriage bond between a
man and a woman
28OVERTURE ON ISSUE OF PRO-LIFE(BLACKHAWK REJECTED
48-68)
- Stop funding any group and discontinue any
lobbying that promotes abortion - Ensure that no PCUSA monies are used to pay for
abortion except in cases where the life of the
mother is endangered.
29OVERTURE AGAINST PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION
(BLACKHAWK REJECTED 51-60)
- Viable unborn babies ought to be preserved and
cared for . - When late term pregnancies must be terminated, we
urge decisions intended to deliver the baby
alive.
30OVERTURE ON BAPTISM AND THE ADOPTION OF OUR
CHILDREN, BOTH BORN AND UNBORN (BLACKHAWK
REJECTED 34-68)
- Book of Order W-2.3008b shall be amended to add
the following language (addition in italics), so
that the section reads as follows
31Amendment
- b. The Baptism of children witnesses to the truth
that Gods love claims people before they are
able to respond in faith God pronounces that he
adopts our infants as his children, before they
are born. (John Calvin, The Institutes of the
Christian Religion, IV1520)
32OVERTURE ON FOLLOWING THE CONSTITUTION WITH
REGARD TO ORDINATION STANDARDS (BLACKHAWK
REJECTED 48-68 )
- Lets follow our constitution with regard to
ordination standards
33ANOTHER OVERTURE TO MOVE PCUSA BACK TO A PRO-LIFE
POSITION(BLACKHAWK REJECTED WITH VOICE VOTE)
- Concluding statement in presentation at Blackhawk
was - First Pres Aurora humbly stands for life. Would
you please join us. - Blackhawk decided not to review our slide
presentation.
34OVERTURE ON Children ( BLACKHAWK PASSED voice
vote) PRESENTED AT 2008 GA AND WAS REJECTED AT
GA
- Lets set aside a special day to honor our
children.
35FIRST PRES HISTORY SUMMARY
- Ten overtures submitted to PCUSA,
- Ten overtures rejected!
- Clear conscience with our Lord Jesus Christ
------ priceless!!
36Timeline of Sessions Inquiry Process
37Timeline
- May 2008 Session begins to address issues with
the denomination and establishes a process for
fact-finding in order to answer the question
What does faithfulness look like in this time of
denominational crisis? We decided to hear the
views of people representing a spectrum of views
regarding faithfulness. We would then conduct a
SWOT (Strengths, Weaknesses, Opportunities,
Threats) analysis of each viewpoint
38Timeline contd
- June 2008
- The 218th General Assembly meets and makes the
previously discussed decisions regarding
Authoritative Interpretation and the PC(USA)s
stance on homosexuality - July 2008
- Pastor Jeff writes his Presbyterian Disaster
Assistance article in the newsletter
39Timeline contd
- August 10, 2008
- We begin a season of 40 Days of prayer and
fasting in order to seek the Shepherds direction
for how to respond to the denominational crisis.
40Timeline contd
- August 21, 2008 Session and Confessing Church
Committee (CCC) has Conversation 1 - Dr. John Armstrong of ACT3 brought a message of
stay, ignore the denominational games and do our
mission in spite of the PCUSA. He said that our
link to a form of government does not affect our
faithfulness to Jesus Christ and His church.
Additionally, his opinion was that GA tactics
(passing authoritative interpretations that
dictate morality in the church) have left
historic Presbyterianism.
41Timeline contd
- September 4, 2008
- Session Update to the congregation regarding the
Covenant Network not having a booth in our
building at our hosting of Blackhawk Presbytery. - September 9, 2008
- FPC hosts Blackhawk Presbytery
42Timeline contd
- September 18, 2008 40 days of prayer and
fasting concludes Conversation 2 - Rev. John Rickard, General Presbyter of Blackhawk
Presbytery and Rev. Paul Nelson. Bring a message
saying stay and give accountability and balance
to the spectrum of theological beliefs that exist
in the PCUSA
43Timeline contd
- September 30, 2008 Conversation 3
- Rev. Eric Geil of the Kishwaukee Community
Presbyterian Church (EPC) who were dismissed to
the EPC by Blackhawk Presbytery in November
2007. We listened to his account of their
journey to dismissal from the PCUSA and transfer
to the EPC.
44Timeline contd
- October 2, 2008 Conversation 4
- Rev. Jim Tony is a leader in the Presbyterian
Coalition, a renewal group in the PCUSA. His
message is stay and agitate for reform, mainly
through legislative and judicial means.
45Timeline contd
- October 19, 2008
- Session Update 2 to congregation
- November 6, 2008 Conversation 5
- Session hears from CCC to hear directly from each
of them their position. The CCC was then given a
sabbatical from their work.
46Timeline contd
- December 4, 2008 Conversation 6
- Rev. Paul Heidebrect and Elder Carolyn Nystrom
from the EPC share knowledge about the ways,
practices, and beliefs of the EPC.
47Timeline contd
- January 8, 2009
- Session letter to Rev. Rickard responding to the
mutual invitation conversation and accompanying
motion from the MSRB committee of Blackhawk
Presbytery on November 11 which said Recognized
networks and partnerships may exhibit and present
in presbytery meetings and their participation
may not be restricted by any church or group.
48Timeline contd
- January 20, 2009
- Session retreat when the elders were convicted by
the Holy Spirit and confessed their sin to God to
one another and the congregation. We also
discovered complete unanimity among us to pursue
dismissal from the PCUSA.
49Timeline contd
- February 22, 2009
- Special Session meeting to act on the motion to
recommend that the congregation request the
Presbytery of Blackhawk to dismiss the First
Presbyterian Church of Aurora to the Evangelical
Presbyterian Church.
50Scriptures
51Session Statements
52Mike Gerhard
- Psalm 1382 says, For God has exalted above all
things His Name and His Word. The PCUSA has a
different view. -
- When in 2006 at the General Assembly, it was
encouraged that we consider alternative names for
The Father, Son Holy Spirit such as Mother,
Beloved Child Life giving Womb or Rainbow,
Ark Dove thus reducing God to a mere metaphor,
it was an outrage. And when our church sought to
affirm that the Bible is the inerrant Word of God
and the authority for our lives, and our overture
was voted down by our Presbytery, it became clear
to me we are not the same faith. -
- It appears the PCUSA has a primary commandment of
tolerance tolerance of all kinds of beliefs
whether true or false, whether good or evil. -
- It is time. God wants us to separate from the
darkness and partner with those who seek God and
His Word.
53Craig Zimmerman
- (What did it for me?) The joy expressed by church
representatives from people who have made the
transfer. They stated what a blessing it was to
attend Presbytery meetings and participate with
people who agree on faith fundamentals. In the
past people from our church attending most (if
not all) Presbytery meetings come back
frustrated, discouraged, or angry. Secondly, our
pastors have stated (I would feel the same way)
that they do not want to put the great amount of
time in that it would take to "stay and fight."
It is more important to reach out to new people
and take care of the congregation as it grows. - (Right thing for our church?) We and the pastors
should not be using our time trying to change
minds in the Presbytery and General Assembly
about fundamental tenants of the Christian faith.
We should be in a body that recognizes
fundamental biblical truths and then we use these
basic truths to bring as many others as possible
into the family of God through Christ.
54Mike Platt
- What did it for me?
- I was a fence sitter for a long time. The Lord
finally helped me to see that there was to much
time and energy being spent on the legalities
within the denomination a denomination that I
believe is turning away from God's word. Jesus
did not spend a lot of time fighting the legal
issues with the church rulers of the time. He
spent most of his time teaching of God's love and
desires for us. -
- Why is this the right thing for our church?
- People in our congregation have talked to me for
a long time about their frustration with a
denomination that seems to be turning away from
biblical teachings. It will bring a peace
regarding denominational issues to our church and
has been missing for a long time. This will
allow us to focus more on the real work that the
Lord desires for and commands of us. -
- If we do not hold to God's teachings we are like
salt with no taste, no longer good for anything.
Matt 513
55Mary Faye Vasen
- What did it for me?
- After attending several Presbytery meetings over
the last two years, I realized the lack of unity
and understanding of Scripture that we share with
our denomination. We are no longer of "one
spirit and one mind, striving side by side for
the faith of the gospel." (Phil 127) -
- Why is this the right thing for our church?
- Our vision is to bring lost people to Jesus. To
stay in the PC(USA) and fight would require time,
resources and emotional energy. This would
negatively impact our efforts to share the
gospel. In joining the EPC, we will be working
alongside those who share our vision for the lost
56Tom Hartman
- Im longing to
- Embrace the Truth with other believers.
- Be part of a living, growing denomination.
- Worship and enjoy our Lord Jesus Christ with new
friends. - Discover nurturing opportunities for our pastors
and leaders. -
- Im ready to
- Quit being discouraged and defensive after each
presbytery meeting. - Be heard on important issues.
- Praise God and to call ourselves Evangelical!
57Dawn Pulgine
- What did it for you?
- After being on staff for nearly 5 years and
knowing the issues FPC faced - with PCUSA and Blackhawk Presbytery, I thought
that being the light that - shines in darkness was the right path to take.
However, once I understood - the magnitude of our theological disagreements
and realizing that this - hasn't been an issue for just 5 years but nearly
30, I knew that our "light" - wasn't enough. Their (PCUSA Blackhawk
Presbytery) hearts were hardened. - What did it for me was when during our Session
retreat this past January - each person on Session individually came to the
conclusion by the leading of - the Holy Spirit through prayer and Bible study
that it was time to move. - Collectively we agreed that if we didn't obey
immediately there may be - consequences our church would face that would
possibly destroy us. - Why is this the right thing for our church?
- Our church has always been the bright light that
shines upon this hill here - in Aurora. We do not want God to remove His
discerning hand from us because - of lack of obedience causing that light to
diminish. We as a church family - are grounded in Scripture believing that God's
Word is infallible and
58Bob Porter
- Last March, I presented our pro-life overture to
Blackhawk. I was shouted at and heard the murmur
of disgust from many at the meeting. I
definitely felt disrespect. As I drove back
home, feeling like I had let the Lord and our
congregation down, the first Psalm immediately
came to mind. Blessed is the man that does not
sit in the seat of the scornful. I decided at
that time that we needed to leave PCUSA. Why
is this the right thing for our church? - Replace man with church in the first Psalm
(the church is the people) and the answer is
clear.
59Wally Daunheimer
- As I listened to comments made in our discussions
it became clear to me that too much time and
physical and mental effort was being spent on
PC(USA) negatives. We need to follow scriptures
and concentrate on being a church that is about
Gods work finding and bringing souls to
Christ.
60Randy Aspen
- a. What did it for you?
- Coming on session, I was neutral to the whole
issue. I have known about the problems in PCUSA
and the tremendous loss of members over the past
40 years. It was during the session retreat, that
after fervent study and confession, it became
clear. I have felt the power of God many times in
my life, and this was one of them. In my heart I
felt that God wanted us to move. This feeling has
not left me since that day, and I am ready to
suffer any consequences that may arise, because I
feel that I am doing Gods will. - b. Why is this the right thing for our church?
- First Pres Aurora has had a difficult past ten
years. But the trouble of the past has developed
a strong congregation of Biblical faith, grounded
in Gods word, under great leadership of Reverend
Moore. This is in conflict with the direction of
PCUSA where it seems like out of desperation to
maintain membership numbers, values have eroded
away to allow more members in with different
values. This is very sad, and will only speed up
the decline of a once great denomination. First
Pres Aurora is a very conservative congregation
operating in a very liberal denomination. I hear
Gods call to move.
61Joe Johnson
- What did it for me?
- For a long time, I was paying more attention to
what was going on at the Presbytery level than
what the General Assembly was doing. I was
concentrating closer to home our Presbytery.
As long as they let us do our ministries as we
believed God and His Word would have us do, I
didnt get too excited about other things. In
going through our due diligence process, the
focus broadened to include the entire picture. I
stepped back and put into perspective that we
were carrying living under a banner that didnt
represent what we believed, taught and were
about. Secondly, we have had people attending
that struggled in deciding to join because of
what the PCUSA represented i.e. things as the
Bible not being the inerrant Word of God.
Lastly, the Presbytery is making it more
difficult for us to feel at home. Of late, we
have encountered a number of difficulties. For
example, after requesting and being accommodated
that the Covenant Network group not be allowed to
have a booth at First Pres, the Presbytery
proposed an amendment that would force us to
allow a booth in our church even though it would
not represent what we believe. - Why is this the right thing for our church?
- We arent a good fit in the Blackhawk
Presbytery. We need to be where we feel we have
purpose and can contribute to the overall mission
of the organization and be represented by those
that believe the things that we do. It is a
better situation for First Pres in most all
aspects. It is where we know that we can do
ministry under the guidance of an organization
that follows and believes the scriptures the way
First Pres does.
62Liz Teitge
- What did it for you?
- Questioning the deity of Christ and the
authenticity of scripture. - Why is this the right thing for our church?
- We have to stand firm in the Word and truth. If
we're not for God we're against Him. It's time to
move and follow Jesus.
63Tim Pavey
- What did it for me?
- There are multiple reasons that ultimately
contributed to my decision, but there were two
things that really spoke to me during this
process. The piercing and convicting Truth of
God's Word. And not wanting to myself, nor
feeling our church is called to be a "missionary"
to the PCUSA, when we have a mission field all
around us. - Why is this the right thing for our church?
- Our core bedrock beliefs, that have been recently
reaffirmed, do not align with the PCUSA, and
quite frankly, I believe never will. They are
drifting further and further from the Word of
God. I believe from where we've been to where the
Spirit is leading, our church is ready to stand
and declare that, "we are willing to risk
everything to follow Jesus!"
64What is the Evangelical Presbyterian Church?
65History
- Formed in 1980-81 by pastors and elders from
other mainline Presbyterian denominations. - Distressed by liberalism within their
denominations - Wanted a church that took seriously the words of
Scripture, the theology of the historic
confessions of the faith, and the evangelical
fervor of Presbyterian founders - Headquartered in Livonia, MI near Detroit, and
part of the Mid-America Presbytery
66Two Key Phrases
- In Essentials, Unity
- In Non-Essentials, Liberty
- In all things, Charity
- The EPC is Presbyterian in Polity, Reformed in
Theology, Evangelical in Spirit, and Missional in
Purpose
67Denomination Build on Essentials
- Absolutes
- Intentionally brief
- Must accept the essentials as well as the
Westminster Confession of Faith to be ordained as
a pastor in the EPC - Focused on Reformed theology and Presbyterian
government - Focused on evangelically sharing the good news of
salvation through Jesus Christ
68EPC Essential
- All Scripture is self-attesting and being Truth,
requires our unreserved submission in all areas
of life. The infallible Word of God, the
sixty-six books of the Old and New Testaments, is
a complete and unified witness to Gods
redemptive acts culminating in the incarnation of
the Living Word, the Lord Jesus Christ. The
Bible, uniquely and fully inspired by the Holy
Spirit, is the supreme and final authority on all
matters on which it speaks.
69Additional EPC Essentials
- Trinity Father, Son, Holy Spirit
- Jesus Christ Fully God, Fully Man
- The gift of the Holy Spirit
- Salvation through grace alone
- The true Church is composed of all saved by
Christ - Jesus Christ will return
- Proclamation of the gospel
70In Non-Essentials, Liberty
- Even though the founders of the EPC valued purity
of faith, they wisely saw the danger of division
over non-essential issues. - The essentials will not be compromised, but all
other decisions will be left to the local
congregation e.g. worship style, ordination of
women, etc.
71Other Important Factors
- The local church owns all properties
- Evangelical
- Women can be ordained as elders and deacons
- No pastor or leadership can ever be placed over a
congregation without its consent
72Other Important Factors
- Our pastors transfer, upon examination, without
interruption to benefits and packages - Denomination is ruled by elders Each church may
send two elders for every clergy to Presbytery
and General Assembly
73Comparison Chart
74Going Forward
75Process Going Forward
- Presbytery is filling a review committee
- Congregational Meeting on April 5 at 3 p.m.
- Negotiations Including property decision
- Our Negotiating Team Wally Daunheimer, Dan
Farnum, Mary Brake
76Process Going Forward
- Regular Updates to the Congregation
- Further Congregational Voting
- Presbytery in September/November
- Formal Transfer to EPC for pastors and members
77Questions