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Title: THE BUDA SIDE LOWER EMBANKMENT CASE


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THE BUDA SIDE LOWER EMBANKMENT CASEREGIONAL
GRASSROOT ACTIVITIES AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
  • Tamás Fleischer
  • MTA Világgazdasági Kutatóintézet
  • lttfleisch_at_vki.hugt
  • lthttp//www.vki.hu/tfleisch/gt

BGF KKFK Ritsumeikan University UNESCO
Partnership Program Budapest, 1st March, 2006
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The Buda-side lower embankment case
  • End-of-pipe unsolvednesses and the century-old
    dream of the sewage collector and the central
    cleaning plant
  • Changing role of the embankments in the life of
    the cities
  • The planned four lane road to solve the traffic
    problem.
  • The report of the mission of UNESCO and ICOMOS
    experts
  • The interpretation of the Report of the mission
  • Present perspectives
  • Other questions, remarks

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End-of-pipe unsolvednesses
  • End-of-pipe solution when dont think over the
    causes, see but the effects and we try to solve
    this latter
  • End-of-pipe unsolvedness when dont think over
    the causes, see but the effects - and we dont
    even try to solve this latter

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End-of-pipe unsolvednesses
  • An afternoon walk in Madras (Chennai)
  • The river, as the brown zone of the city
  • Where the residents turn their back to the river
  • Fortunately we dont do such terrible things at
    home
  • Or still?

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End-of-pipe unsolvednesses
  • Or still? What about the Ördögárok (Devils
    ditch)?

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End-of-pipe unsolvednesses
  • We do turn our back to it now
  • The Devils ditch in the Városmajor (Town-park).
    Barabás Miklós 1854

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And what about the Danube? Do we turn our back
to it too?
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And what about the Danube? Do we turn our back
to it?
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And what about the Danube? Do we turn our back
to it?
  • The Danube was a frequented trading corridor with
    a tracker-route and with ports along its
    embankment
  • The direct trading role gradually decreased,
    Houses were built along the riverside, a the city
    began to turn toward the river. Swimming pools,
    boats, ships, promenade, urban life.
  • Better water supply, more and more sewage water
    and all goes to the river. The mouth of the
    Devils ditch is now the end of the pipe.
  • As a matter off fact we again turn now our back
    to the Danube, but this time with bad conscience.
  • That is why we decided to extend the pipe and
    the sewage water of two-third Buda transport 8
    km-s to Csepel island. By that way we let the
    Danube being again clean and attractive.

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And what about the Danube? Do we turn our back
to it?
  • I personally have doubts if it were an up-to-date
    solution to collect the sewage water of a half
    metropolis and transport it to great distances
    just for handling it together in a huge cleaning
    plant.
  • The sewage system gradually should be changed
    from unified (sewage and rain water together)
    system to a separated system. The existing
    open-end sewage system would be good for the rain
    water, that keep on can directly be driven into
    the Danube while the household sewage water
    could be cleaned in small local cleaning plants,
    and from those it could also be gone to the
    Danube along the old sewage system.
  • This is not happening, because the whole system
    has a huge inertia, (path-dependence). Even if it
    is known, that the direction we follow is not
    good, we are not able to change. We are not able
    to change our mind.

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And what about the Danube? Do we turn our back
to it?
  • and joining to the sewage water system
    construction if the supporting wall is to be
    transposed anyway it seemed to be an excellent
    occasion to widen the road with two extra traffic
    lines.
  • in order to let here go those traffic, that we
    decided to send here in a period, when we were
    just turning back to the river!
  • That type of relative through traffic is
    normally sent to those parts of the town that can
    be easily sacrified in order to help the traffic
    flow.
  • The inner Buda embankment is definitively not
    such a part of Budapest.

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And what about the Danube? Do we turn our back
to it?
  • Otherwise we called the attention - the sewage
    collector could be constructed under the lower
    embankment, or under the upper embankment, or
    under the pavement in Fo utca, or in the river
    bed, or under the river bed - too.
  • In such a case it could have been said if the
    pavement is to be changed anyway it would be
    possible to build a pedestrian pavement, an
    exclusive road for public transport, a calmed
    traffic street, an extended tram line that is
    investments for a better life in the district,
    rather than improve the circumstances of the
    transit road traffic..
  • All these latter suggestions could be much more
    harmo-nised with the official targets to
    decrease the traffic load, the through traffic,
    the environmental pollution.

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And what about the Danube? Do we turn our back
to it?
  • In an urban fabric, one can decrease the traffic
    load of a section, if I make the site less
    attractive for car traffic if it is net possible
    to drive along the whole section, if the road has
    no priority, if because of speed limits it is not
    worthy to choose that way, if one have to pay if
    want to use thet section etc.
  • Just differently, the official plan wanted to
    make more attractive the lower embankment for the
    through traffic. It increased the car traffic, by
    that way perpendicularly also increasing the
    feeding traffic. The result is, that the traffic
    in the district - that was declared to be
    protected from the traffic - does not decrease,
    while the connection with the Danube changed
    definitely worse.

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Paris 2002Plage at the Seine
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Budapest 2004Plage at the Pest
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South-Korea Cheon
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South-Korea Cheon before and after
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Source P.-M. Tricaud. B. Maldoner. Evaluation of
Buda Embankment Wastewater
Collector and Road Project 20-22 March 2005.
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Source P.-M. Tricaud. B. Maldoner. Evaluation of
Buda Embankment Wastewater
Collector and Road Project 20-22 March 2005.
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Source P.-M. Tricaud. B. Maldoner. Evaluation of
Buda Embankment Wastewater
Collector and Road Project 20-22 March 2005.
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Source P.-M. Tricaud. B. Maldoner. Evaluation of
Buda Embankment Wastewater Collector and Road
Project 20-22 March 2005.
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Source P.-M. Tricaud. B. Maldoner. Evaluation of
Buda Embankment Wastewater Collector and Road
Project 20-22 March 2005.
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Interpretation of the Mission Evaluation
  • I have never heard communicating, what really was
    the preferred alternative the two authors found
    best
  • Namely removing the road and restoring the
    former aspect of the embankment
  • It is true, that the authors correctly added that
    this solution was not acceptable by the current
    position of technicians with regards to
    functional issues
  • But, when these technicians refer to the opinion
    of the foreign experts, it would have been right
    to quote similarly correctly their statement

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Present perspectives
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Present perspectives
  • The good news that the four lanes widening of the
    embankment was abandoned.
  • The bad news that the planners didnt want to
    understand the real message a more liveable
    environment needs calm, less traffic,
    pedestrianisation, more public space.
  • What is planned now, formally follows the advises
    of the non-widening of the embankment, but want
    to send more lorry traffic to the areamaintains
    the place for a future tunnel under the lower
    embankment, that is still they want to press here
    through the north-south traffic of Buda.

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THE BUDA SIDE LOWER EMBANKMENT CASEREGIONAL
GRASSROOT ACTIVITIES AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
  • Tamás Fleischer
  • Institute for World Economics of the Hungarian
    Academy of Sciences
  • lttfleisch_at_vki.hugt
  • lthttp//www.vki.hu/tfleisch/gt

THANKS FOR YOUR ATTENTION !
BGF KKFK Ritsumeikan University UNESCO
Partnership Program Budapest, 1st March, 2006
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