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Title: Blacksburg Workshop


1
Blacksburg Workshop
Bernard Sadoulet Dept. of Physics /LBNL UC
Berkeley UC Institute for Nuclear and
Particle Astrophysics and Cosmology (INPAC)
  • DUSEL process
  • Solicitation 1
  • Workshops Berkeley, Blacksburg, Boulder,
    Maryland(?)
  • Goals
  • Style

2
DUSEL Process
  • Solicitation 1 Community wide study of
  • Scientific roadmap from Nuclear/Particle/Astro
    Physics to Geo Physics/Chemistry/Microbiology/Engi
    neering
  • Generic infrastructure requirements
  • Proposal supported by all 8 known sites
    submitted on Sept 15,2004 (www.dusel.org)
  • Under review by NSF
  • Solicitation 2 Preselection of 3-5 sites
  • Proposals due January 10.
  • Solicitation 3
  • Selection of initial site(s)
  • MRE and Presidential Budget (hope 08 start)

3
Solicitation 1 Organization
  • 6 PIs responsible for the study
  • in particular scientific quality/ objectivity
  • 14 working groups Workshops
  • Infrastructure requirements/management
  • Education and outreach
  • 2 consultation groups
  • The site consultation group (Solicitation 2
    sites)
  • Endorsement of the PIs and general approach
  • Input on scientific/technical questions important
    to the sites
  • Competition between sites
  • The initiative coordination group major
    stakeholders (e.g. National Labs)
  • Coordination with other major initiatives
  • Competition between these initiatives
  • Report directed at OMB/OSTP/Congress
  • cf. Quantum Universe
  • Web based reports with technical facts
  • External review à la NRC

4
Workshops
  • Berkeley Aug 4-7
  • Agree about methodology and finalize Solicitation
    1 proposal
  • First exploration of scientific themes
  • Start of work on infrastructure requirements
  • Common language for solicitation 2
  • Blacksburg Nov 12-13
  • Focus on Earth Sciences (including
    Geo-microbiology) and Applications
  • More precise definition of scientific roadmaps
    and generic experiments
  • Generic infrastructure requirements Adaptation
    of methodology
  • Help in integration into solicitation 2 proposals
  • Boulder Jan 5-7
  • Bring in mainstream biologists (e.g.
    evolutionary molecular and microbe)
  • Synergies between fields
  • Focus on infrastructure requirements lt results
    of working groups Modules
  • Sketch of report major themes
  • Last opportunity to adjust our common language
    before Solicitation 2
  • Washington Area March or April
  • Conclusions
  • First draft of report

5
Berkeley Workshop Physics/Earth Science
  • Clearly something is happening
  • Partnership
  • Not only to boost political case
  • Money saving/new opportunities from co-location
  • e.g. Deep module as platform
  • Instrumentation of the site before
    construction and monitoring after
  • biological precautions
  • Synergies
  • Technology MEMS, Data acquisition
  • Large caverns
  • Novel scientific methods
  • use of particle methods for earth exploration
    (neutrinos, low radioactivity counting)
  • use of geophysics methods for particle
    detection?
  • Different styles
  • novel approaches
  • more effective argumentation with agencies
  • Intellectual climate at site(s)
  • Multidisciplinarygt intellectual creativity
  • education of our students

6
Berkeley WorkshopThe Big Scientific Question
  • Illuminating the dark side of the earth and the
    cosmos
  • Nature of dark matter and dark energy
  • The neutrino properties
  • Matter/antimatter asymmetry and stability of
    matter
  • Ancient life/evolution/adaptation
  • Understanding the earth and its evolution /rock
    deformation/ earthquakes
  • Imaging the underground world gt mastery of the
    rock

7
Berkeley WorkshopA Powerful Case for DUSEL
  • Unique aspects
  • Earth Science Deep, long term is unique
  • Physics Depth ?
  • Long base line accelerators
  • Likely demand and evolution of science
  • We have to build the case
  • Road maps Infrastructure requirements
  • Strategic importance
  • as large scale experiments become international
    , important to have US site to have US teams
    leading the projects
  • We want the U.S. to be a leader in geoscience
    techniques
  • Energy sciences (finding oil deposit, etc.)
  • Underground construction
  • Education of our scientists and engineers
  • Homeland security
  • International context and partnerships
  • SNO
  • Japan/Europe

8
BlacksburgScientific Roadmapsfor Deep
Underground Earth Science
  • Starting from previous studies (in particular
    Ness2002,Earth Lab report, Berkeley workshop) go
    further
  • Identification of major themes
  • With syntheses which make sense for the
    specialists, resonate with other scientists and
    fascinates the non scientists
  • Relatively few working groups Coupled processes,
    rock mechanics and tectonics, geo-microbiology
    and applications
  • Prioritization
  • What are the most pressing questions to answer
    deep underground?
  • Can we identify major types of experiments or
    facilities
  • Not necessarily same approach as physicists
  • But go further than the 1km3 sand box where we
    want to play for at least 10 years
  • e.g. Earth Lab
  • Ultradeep Life and Biogeochemistry Observatory
  • Deep Flow and Paleoclimate Laboratory and
    Observatory
  • Induced Fracture and Deformation Processes
    Laboratory Deep Coupled Processes Laboratory

9
Blacksburg Infrastructure Requirements
  • Earth science is not geology independent
  • Not everything can be done at every site
  • What are the generic site characteristics which
    are necessary to at least start to tackle the
    most important questions
  • cf Depth as a major characteristic for physicists
    (but not needed for all)
  • Do we have enough of a scientific case for
    recommending eventually a combination of sites?
  • Adapt infrastructure requirement matrix to Deep
    Earth Science (Lee Petersen, Derek Ellsworth)
  • At minimum, additional columns indicating rock
    type, fracture characteristics etc.
  • Define also needed characterization / monitoring
    of the site precautions for biological studies
  • Estimate of the demand in an international
    context

10
Berkeley Workshop Physics/Earth Science
  • Clarity about differences
  • Earth scientists heterogeneous fragmented
  • Physicists homogeneous gt large cavities
  • Earth scientists more sites
  • Physicists single organization
  • Earth scientists virgin territory
  • Some physicists use of existing sites
  • to reduce costs

11
Style
  • Solicitation 1 process
  • Study cutting across sites Site independent
    (obviously not geology independent)
  • Program under PIs responsibility
  • Visit of Kimballton is not an official part of
    the workshop
  • Stress our unity
  • A big success at Berkeley
  • In spite of the competition between sites (and
    natural tendency to push competitive advantage of
    our favorite site)
  • No product placement, propaganda
  • No bias of the scientific arguments for political
    purpose
  • Education and outreach should never be very far
    in the background
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