Careers Advisers Seminar

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Careers Advisers Seminar

• Alan Montague
• RMIT University
• Phone [phone]Email alan.montague_at_rmit.ed
  u.au

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Introduction

• Apprenticeships Traineeships and RMIT
  offerings
• Some useful need to know information
• Broader issues, skill/occupational shortages and
  ageing society
• Questions whenever you like and tell me what
  do you need

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WHAT ARE APPRENTICESHIPS TRAINEESHIPS?

• New Apprenticeship means apprenticeship or
  traineeship
• Can cover full or part-time work, in schools,
  VCE, VCAL (with a few exceptions)
• Combine paid work with training under a
  government approved Training Agreement
• Training program leading to a nationally
  recognised qualification
• Traineeship usually last 2 years
• Apprenticeship usually last 3 4 years

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Key RMIT Contacts
Pre-apprenticeships
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Pre-apprenticeships
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Pre-apprenticeships
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Information of Use

• Jobs Employment and Training JET is a free
  service for employers to advertise
  apprenticeships and traineeships and for
  jobseekers to receive apps/trainee vacancies by
  email and applywww.jet.org.auJET is going
  nationwide on July 1 2005 as a service and Group
  Training Companies throughout Australia are
  promoting apprenticeship and traineeship
  vacancies and these are also accessible through
  JET.

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Info of Use

• RMIT Apprenticeship and Traineeship Website
• www.rmit.edu.au/appstrainees
• TAFELINE
• 9637 2000

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Education Pathways Industry Society

• My post graduate course I conduct
• Covers Kirby Review
• VCAL/Applied learning
• Apps/Tships
• Labour Market Shortages etc
• Credit to other RMIT post graduate programs
• Running Second Semester 2005 and in 2006
• Phone me for details 9925 4205

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Key Messages

• The main message today is to think about how
  education fits in with the big picture and what
  is really happening.
• People with qualifications are more likely to be
  employed and stay employed.
• Pathways whether they are university TAFE or
  apprenticeships need equitable respect as it
  depends on the what suits the young person.

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Qualifications getting that ticket
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Unemployed 5 Uni 42 VET Cert 4 20 VET Entry
Level 6 Apps 3 Tnees 3 Employed 21 Deferred
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Uni Vs an Apprenticeship?
"The costs for students are going up and the
relative benefits of having a bachelor's degree
are going down," he said. "So the investment
decision, if you like, is not as good as it used
to be." The rising cost of university and a
smaller gap between the earning power of
graduates and non-graduates are deterring
students from pursuing a degree, says a former
education chief Mike Gallager Source Amy Lawson
The Age HECS a barrier for poor students Date
July 18 2004
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Student flows VET and higher education
Higher Education (Bachelor degree or below)
19,600
TAFE
Vocational Education and Training
Higher Education
97,400
Source ANTA 2001
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From University to TAFE
Tens of thousands of university graduates are
undertaking TAFE courses in an attempt to become
more employable, latest figures show. And many
more university graduates go on to TAFE
institutes than TAFE students to university.
Academics say this casts doubt on the
Government's assertion that students use TAFE as
a cheap, "backdoor" way of obtaining
degrees. Statistics cited in a recent paper by
the National Centre for Vocational Education
Research (NCVER) show that in 2002, 88,500
students studying at TAFEs had a bachelor or
higher degree. The paper says a "large" number
of higher education students go on to do
vocational education and training. Only 15,000
first-year university students had TAFE
qualifications. In all age groups, there was a
growing trend for people to hold both university
and TAFE qualifications. (Cervini, The Age, 11
January 2004)
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Salaries/Career Path Metals/Engineering Sector
Source AMTIL 2003
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Next

• Ageing society population
• Occupational/skill shortages

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Problems?

• The proportion of people aged 65 and over is
  expected to more than double over the next few
  decades, raising questions about how this will
  affect Australias long term economic prospects.

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The Productivity Commission report focuses on the
following 1. The likely impact of an ageing
population on Australias overall productivity
and economic growth. 2. The potential economic
implications of future demographic trends for
labour supply and retirement age, and the
implications for unpaid work such as caring and
volunteering. 3. The potential fiscal impact of
the above factors on Commonwealth, State and
Territory and, to the extent practicable, local
governments.
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• At Federation, the old were scarce. Less than one
• in 25 (4) of the population were aged 65 years
  or more.
• Now, they comprise one in every eight
  Australians (12.5). By 2044-45, almost one in
  four (25) will be aged 65 years and over. They
  will comprise around 7 million Australians.
• The work careers educators and people connected
  to vocational guidance is impacting as old
  peoples needs can be met as long as there are
  sufficient numbers of younger people to drive the
  economy and provide the needed services.

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Australia faces a pronounced ageing of its
population over the next forty years. One-quarter
of Australians will be aged 65 years or more by
2044-45, roughly double the present proportion.
The proportion of the oldest old will increase
even more.
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While taxation revenue will largely track GDP
growth, government expenditure is likely to rise
more rapidly, placing budgets under considerable
pressure. Although education and some welfare
payments are projected to increase more slowly
than GDP, government spending on health, aged
care and pensions will grow at a faster rate.
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The highest unemployment rates are experienced by
young people, who are in transition from
education to work, and the lowest by older
people, who have the alternative of retirement
(or, in many cases, a disability pension).
Consequently, the shift in the age structure of
the workforce is likely to reduce measured
unemployment rates
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Self Correcting Economies the Myth

• It is sometimes argued that future sluggish
  labour supply will be partly self-correcting, as
  the unemployed and those currently out of the
  labour force acquire jobs in response to labour
  shortages. However, such an automatic correction
  is unlikely.
• Unemployed people and people outside the labour
  force are generally different from the employed
  in skill, motivation and aptitude and this occurs
  for many reasons that may stem from an education
  that intimidated rather than engaged, or
  represented a pathway to university that had
  never been tread by any relative in living memory
  in far off places.
• The Productivity commission talks of government
  policies to improve the employability of people
  currently without jobs, or to increase intakes of
  skilled migrants as important factors important
  in raising future labour supply.
• Education supported by industry and community
  partnerships need to influence policies to carve
  out the three Ps of economic and social growth
  Population, Participation and Productivity.

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Tradespersons
2004

• Over the next five years 170,000 tradesmen are
  going to retire in our industry, and only 70,000,
  on today's forecast, at best, are going to come
  in. So if we have skills shortages now, they're
  going to get a lot worse in five years' time. I
  would add also that the skills shortages aren't
  just simple match-to-match. You can't say, 'I've
  got a boiler-maker who's driving a taxi I'll
  bring him back in to the industry.' The skills
  required in industry are very different now, and
  so it's a much bigger issue than that we need
  to be thinking about
• Heather Ridout, the CEO of the Australian
  Industry Group, the peak body for manufacturers
  speaking on Big Ideas Australia Forums The
  future of work. Radio National Sunday 2 May 2004

170,000
2009
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Trades Persons 2001 ABS Data
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Workforce TrendsCurrent and Future Numbers in
the Australian workforce
Source Intergenerational Report Treasury 2002
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New Working Elite

• THE nation's skills shortage means electricians,
  welders, boilermakers, plumbers and other skilled
  tradespeople are snapping up 100,000-plus jobs.
• Tradies in some areas earn more than some
  doctors, dentists, architects and teachers.
• Business groups have estimated Australia needs
  21,000 extra tradies to solve the national
  crisis.
• The shortage of tradespeople has hit household
  budgets with the cost of trade contractors up
  12.5 per cent in just 12 months, a Housing
  Industry Association report found. And the crisis
  could affect interest rates.
• Source New working elite Fleur Anderson 19 Oct.
  04 www.heraldsun.com.au

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Occupational Paradigms

• Wage Pressure anecdotal evidence emerging not
  yet being picked up by ABS
• Last weekend city newspapers carried job
  vacancies advertising 100,000-a-year packages
  for air-conditioning electricians and 70,000
  salaries for kitchen cabinet installers.
• The HIA report found ceramic tilers' prices were
  more than 20 per cent higher in the year to June,
  followed by an 18.3 per cent rise in builders'
  rates and a 12.5 per cent rise in carpenters'
  costs.
• Unless the problem was solved, the skills
  shortage would hurt the Australian economy.
  Heather Ridout AIG
• Reduced Training Time for apprentices (Ridout
  AIG).
• Source New working elite Fleur Anderson 19 Oct.
  04 www.heraldsun.com.au

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Apprentices and Trainees In-training as at
30/6/04 by state/territory by age  
 
 
36.2 are Female. 76.8 are F/T. 33 are
apprentices Source NCVER 2004.
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questions

• What can I do for you?