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Title: More Than One Way to Look at Faith


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More Than One Way to Look at Faith
An opinion hath spread it selfe verie farre in
the world, as if the waye to be ripe in faith,
were to be rawe in wit and judgement as if
reason were an enimie unto religion But
Judge you of that which I speak, saith the
Apostle 1 Cor.1015. In vaine it were to speake
any thing of God, but that by reason men are able
some what to judge of that they heare, and by
discourse to discerne how consonant it is to
truth. Richard Hooker, Laws of Ecclesiastical
Polity, 3.8.11-12
  • Could it be that our world could use a few more
    Hookers?
  • Yes, thats a shameless double entendre.

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  • Theres a tendency in our modern culture to
    equate faith with unquestioning belief
  • You believe something extraordinary without
    having looked at any reasons for or against
    believing it, and then you treat it as if it
    should be off-limits to questions like that.
  • This is what upsets vocal critics of faith like
    the new atheists.
  • I think they are right to be upset about this.
  • It may be harmless in most cases, but its also a
    breeding ground for fanaticism, terrorism,
    super-patriotism and other ills that beset our
    world.

God finally gets through to Pat Robertson
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Rowan Williams Marjorie Suchocki
Peter Gomes Marcus Borg
Abraham Heschel
  • But I and others like me will never speak of
    faith as a matter of believing without
    questioning, because we see God as the
    ever-present reality who constantly eludes any
    final descriptions, even those of our favorite
    creeds.
  • For us faith is not believing in something absent
    but trusting the reality in which we ultimately
    find ourselves, though it remains beyond our
    grasp or control.
  • It does not have to wonder about the existence of
    this reality (weve already found ourselves
    there), only about its ultimate character.
  • It is an inkling that this reality in which we
    ultimately find ourselves is also our ultimate
    good.
  • It is a kind of knowledge, but not the everyday
    kind the more we know of this reality in which
    we live and move and have our being (Acts
    1728), the more we realize that it is both too
    vast and too intimate ever to be adequately
    described.
  • We awaken to this reality as people who have
    already been formed by particular traditions,
    scriptures and ritesbut what makes us trust
    these thoroughly human influences is the way they
    do not pretend to be final answers in themselves
    but keep pointing beyond themselves to the
    ultimate goodness of the reality in which we live
    and move and have our being.

Richard Hooker
John Calvin
Paul Tillich
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  • Now whenever I say something like this, somebody
    almost always responds that Im offering a
    liberal or ivory tower redefinition of faith,
    not faith as it has traditionally been
    understood.
  • That simply is not true.
  • It may be a minority voice in a world where most
    people, religious or not, would rather not think.
  • But its still a voice thats been around for
    quite some time.
  • Christian thinkers understood faith in this way
    well before the rise of modern sciencenot all of
    them, but many of them, like the 16th Century
    Anglican theologian Richard Hooker.

Ivory Tower
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  • John Calvin, another 16th Century theologian (not
    known for being liberal), concurred in his
    Institutes of the Christian Religion. He claimed
  • 1) Faith is a form of knowledge, not blind
    belief
  • Is this what believing meansto understand
    nothing, provided only that you submit your
    feeling obediently to the church? Faith rests not
    on ignorance but on knowledge It is not enough
    for a man implicitly to believe what he does not
    understand or even investigate (3.2.2).
  • 2) Faiths knowledge is not comprehension but an
    assured recognition of something
    incomprehensible
  • When we call faith knowledge we do not mean
    comprehension of the sort that is commonly
    concerned with those things which fall under
    human sense perception. For faith is so far above
    sense that mans mind has to go beyond itself and
    rise above itself in order to attain it. Even
    where the mind has attained, it does not
    comprehend what it feels. But while it is
    persuaded of what it does not grasp, by the very
    certainty of its persuasion it understands more
    than if it perceived anything human by its own
    capacity. For very good reason faith is
    called recognition, but by John, knowledge.
    But the knowledge of faith consists in
    assurance rather than in comprehension (3.2.14).

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  • Over the past fifty years many people of faith
    have been influenced by Paul Tillichs Dynamics
    of Faith (New York Harper and Row, 1957).
  • Faith, Tillich said, is the state of being
    ultimately concerned, an act of the personality
    as a whole, concern, above all, about what is
    experienced as ultimate (1,5,11).
  • Faith can of course be idolatrous when misplaced
    In true faith the ultimate concern is a concern
    about the truly ultimate while in idolatrous
    faith preliminary, finite realities are elevated
    to the rank of ultimacy (13).
  • For example, it is idolatry to be ultimately
    concerned about my own faith tradition, my
    traditions scriptures, or even my own beliefs.
  • None of these are the truly ultimateat best,
    they can help us to participate in the truly
    ultimate, but only when we let them point beyond
    themselves.
  • Only the truly ultimate deserves the name of
    God, and if we hear stories about God in our
    scriptures, they are true stories only insofar as
    they point us to the truly ultimate beyond all
    our limited concepts of God (53-55).

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  • Now, lets admit, Tillich is most definitely an
    ivory tower figure, and he is perceived by many
    as liberal (though he always rejected the term
    as too bourgeois).
  • But is this really an illicit attempt, as Sam
    Harris charges, to change the meaning of the term
    from what pre-modern religious leaders meant?
    (See Harris, The End of Faith New York W. W.
    Norton and Company, 2004, p. 65.)
  • As it turns out, ultimate concern with the truly
    ultimate seems to be a theme that Tillich (a
    Lutheran) borrowed from Martin Luther himself
  • What does it mean to have a god? or, what is
    God? Answer A god means that from which we are
    to expect all good and to which we are to take
    refuge in all distress, so that to have a God is
    nothing else than to trust and believe Him from
    the whole heart as I have often said that the
    confidence and faith of the heart alone make both
    God and an idol. If your faith and trust be
    right, then is your god also true and, on the
    other hand, if your trust be false and wrong,
    then you have not the true God for these two
    belong together faith and God. That now, I say,
    upon which you set your heart and put your trust
    is properly your godFrom Luthers Larger
    Catechism http//www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text
    /wittenberg/luther/catechism/web/cat-03.html
  • Harris can reject this as a definition of faith,
    but he needs to recognize that this is no modern
    reinvention of the term. Its hundreds of years
    old. It was once required reading for young
    Lutherans.

Paul Tillich
Sam Harris
Martin Luther
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Rowan Williams Marjorie Suchocki
Peter Gomes Marcus Borg
Abraham Heschel
  • Harris may of course be right that the majority
    of religious people have always preferred to
    think of faith as unquestioning belief, but
    doesnt that simply confirm Tillichs point that
    we all have a tendency to settle for idolatry?
    Its a human problem, not just a religious
    problem.
  • And isnt it a central point of theological
    education to teach people to stop making idols of
    their own cherished ideas?
  • Isnt that also a central point of preaching, at
    least in Churches that always required an
    educated clergy? (Alas, many do not require this
    any more.)
  • Furthermore, if were going to discuss an idea,
    shouldnt we start with what the most informed
    people say it means?
  • If we want to discuss reason and science, do we
    look to childhood impressions for our
    definitions, or do we look to mature reflections
    of people well-versed in both?
  • So why is it OK to stick with childish
    impressions of faith and God?
  • Again, lets admit, those of us who want to move
    beyond childish impressions may be a minority
    voice, but we are, and always have been, more
    than Tillichs blameless parish of one (Harris,
    65), and we are not giving up or going away.

Richard Hooker
John Calvin
Paul Tillich
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