Title: The evolution of adviser charging models in practice
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2The evolution of adviser charging models in
practice
- Dennis Hall Yellowtail Financial Planning
- Adam Young Dragonfly Planning
3Objectives for the Business
- To develop a valuable client centric proposition
- To provide services that a client wants and needs
at a commercially viable price
4Understanding your target market
- Positioning your suite of services (and skills)
around opportunities and threats that your target
market are facing - Becoming the go to specialist in that
sector/market - Building a trusted relationship and community to
enhance your services
5The Solutions ......
- Avoiding product noise.......
6Dragonfly Evolution
7Attributes for Success
VALUE
Source JP Morgan
8Dragonflys Journey Perspective
- The world is changing, and we must adapt to
survive - Working on a pure fee basis has removed perceived
conflict of interest - Our primary operational model is based on flat
fees renewed annually
9Yellowtail story fees version 1.0
- Single (value based) fee - our wish list
- Easy to understand
- Rewarded us for advice on other assets
- Removed any product biases
- Alignment of interests
- Attractive to long term client relationships
- Sustainable
- RDR ready
- Market advantage
- Removed from commission model
10Yellowtail story fees version 1.0
- Single (value based) fee - results
- Lasted less than a year
- Existing clients initially accepted it
- Prospective clients sceptical
- Nobody liked it (including us)
- Raised more questions than it answered
- Horse trading over value of other assets
11Yellowtail story fees version 2.0
- Range of tiered fixed fees
- Sign on fee
- Negotiate from 5,000
- Annual fees based on AUM
- Broadly 0.5 or less
- Focus on Financial Planning
- Annual or more frequent reviews
- Capped
- Calculated on an underlying hourly rate
12Yellowtail story fees version 2.0
- Range of tiered fixed fees the results
- Easier to explain
- Too much negotiating on the initial fee
- Too much emphasis on Financial Planning
- Sold lots of financial plans
- Didnt build AUM quickly
- Difficult cash-flow position
- Trouble with value proposition during credit
crunch - Doing more work than we were being paid for
13Yellowtail story fees version 3.0
- Fixed, Hourly and Value Based Fees.
- Financial Planning Fee 50 up front - 50 on
completion - 2,500VAT initial
- Implementation fee based on hours spent (VAT
exempt) - Value based fee 0.5 AUM (VAT)
- Introduced Satisfaction Guarantee
- Created value proposition for financial planning
- Sample menu of charges for implementation
14Yellowtail story fees version 3.0
- Fixed, Hourly and Value Based fees Results
- Attracted financial planning work
- A barrier to people wanting long term
relationship - Better cash-flow but long time before AUM
increased - Clients nervous about hourly fees
- Happy to pay fees for each stage
- Still not making decent profit
15Yellowtail story fees version 4.0
- Fixed, Value and Value Based Fees
- Kept the initial fee the same
- Changed to value based fees for implementation
- Increased the ongoing AUM from 0.5 to 1 on
first 1m - 0.35 funds in excess of 1m
- Additional project fees for planning
16Yellowtail story fees version 4.0
- Fixed, Value and Value Based Fees Results
- Increased revenue best ever half year results
- Lost some clients who wanted cheap work
- Appeals to our HNW clients
- Better client engagement
- Moved everybody across
17Yellowtail story fees version 4.1
- Fixed, Value and Value Based Fees next
- Reduce the costs of entry
- Speed up the pace of engagement
- Refine the menu of additional services
- Sell higher value planning
18Professional Partnering
19Freedom....
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