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RFI What is it and what can I do about it?
  • de K5GP
  • Gene Preston

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This power line started making a lot of noise.
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  • Rather than do this.

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  • Lets go find the noise with this

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Small versus 1 ? Loop Pattern
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How to resonate the small loop
19? each side
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What the 40 meter loop does
  • Able to listen on the same noise frequency
  • Able to get a rough idea of the direction
  • Able to walk in that direction to get ever closer
    to the source
  • Get close enough to the source to switch to a VHF
    or UHF frequency why?

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  • When we get close switch to this.

440 MHz yagi on AM mode
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Why use a 440 MHz beam?
  • Only hear the noise when very close
  • Sharp forward beam clearly tells direction
  • Beam is able to locate source on the pole
  • Beam is able to identify the polarization
  • All this information usually allows the likely
    defective component to be identified
  • But are we absolutely sure this noise source is
    the correct noise source?

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Is this the right source?
  • The ARRL recommends using special equipment that
    matches noise signatures
  • An alternate approach is to use a time
    correlation
  • I.e. when the HF band noise changes, such as
    going away, then check the UHF located source to
    see if it also has done the same thing
  • I did this on/off correlation for a week

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Now its time to contact the power company.When
making contact, tell them you have identified a
noise source on pole xxxxx.Set a definite time
to meet with them at the site.
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Show them the noise on your receiver
loudly!Keep the receiver turned on while they
poke around looking for the source.When the
noise stops, the component is identified and can
be changed out.

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In my case, the component was a loose ground wire
the nut was loose. It was tightened and the
noise was gone when the circuit was
re-energized. The total time for the line crew
was only 30 minutes from the time they arrived.
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  • Quick repair times usually foster a cooperative
    relationship with the power company.
  • Finding the source may not be easy.
  • Such is the case for a noise problem that
    occurred in the Reliant system (Houston).

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  • Date Thu, 15 Nov 2001 Hi Gene I read your
    article in Technical Correspondence of QST this
    month and would like your suggestions.  The power
    company here in my area is Reliant Energy, former
    HLP.  They currently have a crew of two
    experienced personnel and one trainee on locating
    line noise and interference problems.   I have
    been fighting severe line noise problems for the
    past month in the HF spectrum.  I do have a very
    directional HF beam and a sensitive receiver with
    attenuator and scope (756 PRO).  From my QTH I
    can usually get them directed to a very specific
    area on the source of trouble.   In the past few
    weeks they have been replacing arrestors,
    switches, hardware, etc, but have yet to get to
    the source of the problem.  The problem is so
    severe that it makes accurate detection
    difficult, at least that is my assessment. I
    really have to crank in the attenuation to
    prevent receiver overload.  Either case, at the
    rate/method they are going it takes weeks or
    longer to troubleshoot and repair the problem. 
     In your 28 years in working the power industry
    have you discovered any process/method to speed
    up this detection and repair cycle?   Any
    suggestions you may have would be appreciated.  I
    am located in Sugar Land, near Houston. Thanks, Ro
    n, AB5WG  

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  • I suggested Ron build his own DF equipment. He
    constructed this loop

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  • Ron also got a 440 MHz yagi beam and tracked the
    noise to a transformer.
  • I told him that transformers usually do not make
    radio noise.
  • He was persistent in that the 440 MHz beam showed
    the transformer was the source of noise.

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  • To test the transformer theory, the power to the
    transformer needed to be killed.
  • But this transformer served a large business
    which would suffer economic losses if power was
    cut so Reliant did not do the test.
  • Ron and others filed a complaint with the FCC.
    Reliant stopped their field work on the case.
    Open communication with Reliant employees were
    halted by Reliants lawyers.

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  • First letter to Reliant from the FCC.
  • May 23, 2002
  • Mr. Steve Ledbetter, PresidentReliant Energy
    CompanyPO Box 1700Houston, TX 77251
  • Dear Mr. Ledbetter
  • The Federal Communications Commission has
    received complaints that equipment operated by
    your utility may be causing harmful radio
    interference to an operator in the Amateur Radio
    Service. The complainant is
  • Edward J. Gerber, W5GCX2407 Briarlee
    DriveHouston, TX 77077
  • The FCC has the responsibility to require that
    utility companies rectify such problems within a
    reasonable time

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  • Second letter to Reliant from the FCC.
  • August 9, 2002
  • Michael C. Massengale, EsquireBaker Botts,
    LLPOne Shell Plaza910 LouisianaHouston, TX
    77002-4995
  • Re Reliant Energy, Incorporated Radio
    FrequencyInterference to Amateur Radio Station
    W5GCX
  • Dear Mr. Massengale
  • This is in response to your letter of June 28,
    2002, on behalf of Reliant Energy, with respect
    to radio frequency interference from the
    operation of the company's electrical service
    equipment to Amateur Radio operators.
  • The Enforcement Bureau appreciates your
    comprehensive response. However, your
    interpretation of applicable Commission rules
    with respect to this matter is in error in
    several material respects. Reliant Energy is
    obligated to eliminate the interference
    complained of.

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  • Reliant must do all things necessary, and bear
    any and all necessary costs, to comply with its
    obligations as an operator of unlicensed devices
    pursuant to the Commission's Part 15 regulations.
    You are hereby requested to provide a written
    report within 30 days of receipt of this letter
    as to the steps that have been taken to eliminate
    this interference. Further enforcement action
    will be withheld pending receipt of that report.
    The Commission expects, however, a complete
    solution without further delay, and good faith on
    the part of your client.
  • Reliant was about to face fines if they didnt
    fix the problem!

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  • Reliant took out this transformer.

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  • And replaced it with this one

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What have we learned?
  • Finding the source of noise is the first step
  • Well equipped hams can quickly locate the source
    of noise and should do so
  • Its best to minimize the cost and time the power
    company spends on your problem
  • As long as the power company is cooperative do
    not contact the FCC
  • Send a formal complaint to the FCC after
    exhausting cooperative efforts

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Here are common sources of power line noise
  • Loose bolts on wooden poles
  • Strings of slack span insulators
  • Leaky lightning arrestors
  • High current connections that no longer have a
    low resistance contact
  • High voltage lighting with arcing connections
  • Cracked or leaky insulators

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Note the slack span and bell insulators
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Low Tension Bell Insulators Are A Noise Source
Spray with WD40
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Fiberglas/Rubber Insulators Are Low Noise
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Lightning arrestor and fuse cutout
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Air switch contacts can make radio noise
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Transformers, arrestors, and fuses
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A sign can radiate noise as a ¼ wave vertical
antenna
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Your noise may be coming from your own equipment
or within your house.Use the HF loop to check
out your neighboring houses. Offer to put in
ferrite filters to keep their noise contained.
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Here is a filter to remove telephone interference
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