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Title: Fata Morgana: mental manipulation between skepticism and anti-proibition


1
Fata Morgana mental manipulation between
skepticism and anti-proibition
  • Luigi Corvaglia
  • CeSAP, Vice-President

2
  • A Fata Morgana is an unusual and complex form of
    mirage that is seen in a narrow band right above
    the horizon. It is an Italian phrase derived from
    the vulgar Latin for "fairy" and the Arthurian
    sorceress Morgan le Fay, from a belief that these
    mirages, often seen in the Strait of Messina ,
    were fairy castles in the air or false land
    created by her witchcraft to lure sailors to
    their death.

3
Sometimes thinghs are not what they appear to be
Sometimes thinghs are not what they appear to be
  • Is this
  • a grilled cheese or
  • a portrait of Vergin Mary?
  • Is this
  • a grilled cheese or
  • a portrait of Vergin Mary?

4
Sold on eBay for 28,500 to a Las Vegas
Casino Illusions can lead us to make wrong
choices, mirages to head in the wrong the
direction.
in the debate between anti cult and against cult
(anti anti cult) someone plays with mirrors
5
Sometimes, things are not what they appear to be
  • First Illusion
  • Anti-cult movement belive in brainwahing or
    other form of mental manipulation
  • Anti anti-cult movement belives that manipulation
    is a mith
  • So, the issue is to belive or not to belive in
    mental manipulation

This brings us completely off course and lead us
on the shoals of an empty and sterile discussion
6
Mental manipulation and exploitation. A synopsis
  • The vast majority of academic scholars of new
    religious movements deny that there is an
    objective concept of "brainwashing" or
    "conditioning techniques to change a
    personality.
  • Massimo Introvigne

Massimo Introvigne
7
Mental manipulation and exploitation. A synopsis
  • also the majority of the scholars of political
    science and economics have difficulty finding an
    agreement on the "objective concept" of
    "exploitation", but few of them would be willing
    to subscribe to the idea that this does not
    exist.
  • Maybe it is true. But.

8
Mental manipulation and exploitation. A synopsis
  • "Anarcho-capitalism", challenges the concept of
    "exploitation" operated by the capitalist to the
    detriment of the worker in poverty, not because
    the first does not exploit the need of the second
    paying less than they would if he was less needy,
    but because this last one is not forced to endure
    the terms of the relationship with physical
    violence or threat.
  • Anarcho-capitalism
  • Anarcho-capitalists argue for a society based on
    the voluntary trade of private property and
    services (in sum, all relationships not caused by
    threats or violence, including exchanges of
    money, consumer goods, land, and capital goods).
  • So, any agreement not caused by violence is
    permissible.

The libertarian argument
9
Mental manipulation and exploitation. A synopsis
  • Anarcho-capitalism

Capitalist acts between consenting adults
David Friedman
David Friedman
10
Mental manipulation and exploitation. a synopsis
  • Anarcho-capitalism about exploitation
  • Against cult movement about manipulation
  • The opportunistic nature of the relationship is
    recognized, but it is considered unavoidable and
    typical of any type of human relationship. The
    concept of "exploitation", they say, is so vague
    and imprecise. For this reason, all laws to
    guarantee the worker should be dismantled.
  • The opportunistic nature of the relationship is
    recognized, but it is considered unavoidable and
    typical of any type of human relationship. The
    concept of manipulation", they say, is so vague
    and imprecise. For this reason, all laws to
    guarantee the individual should be dismantled .

11
The king is naked
  • This is not unbelief, this is
    antiprohibitionism
  • Slavery between consenting adults

12
The king is naked
  • Anti anti cult say
  • if plagiarism were a crime, you should punish
    "any situation of mental and emotional
    dependence, such as the relationship between two
    lovers, between parents and children, between
    teacher and pupil, between doctor and patient,
    between spiritual guidance and disciple and many
    other that recur in everyday life
  • if drug dealing is a crime, you should punish the
    coffee dealer too.

Is like saying that
13
The king is naked
  • the fact that there is a continuum between
    conditions that do not constitute assault or
    exploitation, and others that meet these criteria
    does not mean that you can not make out the
    extremes.
  • Following the fata Morgana" indicated by the
    defenders of the cults, the existence of the warm
    water should make it impossible to distinguish
    the cold water from the hot!

14
Why anti-prohibition may not apply to cults
  • if for the worker in need to whom it is offered a
    cheap labor, or the girl subjected to "sexual
    blackmail", there is still a margin of choice,
    altough strongly influenced, to the person to
    whom you replace the prior convictions is
    created a vulnus, a weak point precisely in
    the function responsible for the choice.
  • Even if the persuasion takes place according to
    natural mechanisms, whatever outrage resulting
    from this conviction that were "voluntarily"
    suffered would no longer arise as the result of
    free and conscious determination.

15
Why anti-prohibition may not apply to cults
  • although there are conditions which are located
    in a "gray area" and in which it is extremely
    difficult to determine whether a conviction is
    unlawful or less, can not be denied the existence
    of undue forms whose quality, rather than in the
    formal aspects, is to be found in the purpose (of
    aggression, control, etc..) and are recognizable
    by presumptive elements that are rather obvious.

16
presumptive elements
  • A cult is when old guys get to have sex with
    young girls to which they would not have
    ordinarily had access.
  • Pat Linse, Skeptics Art Director

Pat Linse, Skeptics Art Director
17
  • Sexual acts between consenting adults?
  • Slavery between consenting adults?

18
Litmus test
  • The shadow of exploitation is back, but, this
    time, to invalidate the libertarian reading of a
    free agreement (which, though not a little
    distorted by the need still remains in the
    economic or sexual exploitation), is the
    cancellation of a will so free to reach,
    autonomously, an agreement.
  • That opportunistic exploitation of a
    psychological subjection, then, is a type of
    asymmetrical agreement at all peculiar, in front
    of which you cannot put yourselves divided into
    factions of believers and unbelievers, but only
    in those of friends and enemies.
  • It is the very fact that a similar proffer can
    take place to demonstrate the reality of this
    kind of subjection of the adepts. In fact, it is
    difficult to imagine that, in conditions
    different from those of a conscious psychological
    subjection, a senior "master" could expect from a
    young student to have sex as a favour to her. The
    fact that such offers can take place is a sign
    that those who produce them expect, in all
    probability, that his actions will not produce
    particular negative reactivity. This expectation,
    otherwise absurd, then, is the "litmus test", the
    unmistakable sign of a psychological dependence
    that the will of the person to whom the offer is
    made is, in fact, defused.

19
Out of the shallows. What antiprohibitionism
hides.
  • The anti anti cult are members of a cultural
    world that we could hardly associate with that
    freedom of choice, relativism and tolerance of
    which seem to be standard-bearers only in this
    case.
  • The reason is that, given the opportunity of a
    mental conditioning, this construct could also be
    used against traditional religious groups.
  • The clerical demand freedom for themselves in the
    name of the liberal principle, except to suppress
    it in others, as soon as he can, in the name of
    the clerical principle
  • Gaetano Salvemini

20
Out of the shallows. What antiprohibitionism
hides.
  • Massimo Introvigne , the most authoritative
    exponent of the anti anti cult in Italy, is a
    leader of Alleanza Cattolica, a right-wing
    organisation . It is "Catholic" and hence
    religious, indeed the group devotes much time to
    reciting the Rosary. On the other hand, its
    objective is to set up the "Kingdom of Mary" on
    earth, defeating Communism and secularism and
    ushering in a theocratic government.

21
Out of the shallows. What antiprohibitionism
hides.

Out of the shallows. What antiprohibitionism
hides.
  • According to Introvigne, The People's Temple, the
    ultimate cult, which led over 900 people to their
    death in a mass suicide, was not a religious but
    a political movement, a Communist movement to be
    exact.
  • The reason of the massacre was not a
    manipulation, but communism.

22
Out of the shallows. What antiproibition hides.
  • However, cult critics will say that the issue,
    whether the group was "Christian" or "Communist",
    is not the "basic question" at all.
  • What matters is, why did 900 members of the group
    commit suicide?

23
The matter is
  • .. can a closed group, whatever its ideology,
    create a conditioning climate so as to induce
    their followers to commit mass suicide or mass
    suicide was simply the sum of one thousand free
    and simultaneous decisions made by men, women and
    children?

24
Why anti-prohibition may not apply to cults The
ultimate incompatibility
  • All ethically oriented action can be guided by
    either of two fundamentally different,
    irredeemably incompatible maxims it can be
    guided by an ethics of conviction or an ethics
    of responsibility.
  • Max Weber, Politics as a Vocation

Max Weber
25
Max Weber two ethics
  • Ethics of Conviction
  • Ethics of Responsability
  • It aims to identify universal rules which lay
    down "right" rules to be applied without regard
    for the consequences.
  • Good choices come from virtuous principles.
  • It produces actions on the basis of rational
    evaluation of the consequences.
  • Valid choices produce "virtuous consequences.

26
Max Weber two ethics
  • Ethics of Conviction
  • Ethics of Responsability
  • It aims to identify universal rules which lay
    down "right" rules to be applied without regard
    for the consequences.
  • Good choices come from virtuous principles.
  • It produces actions on the basis of rational
    evaluation of the consequences.
  • valid choices produce "virtuous".consequences.

Religious ethics
Liberal ethics
Individualism, free thinking, antiproibitionism
27
Max Weber two ethics
  • Ethics of Conviction
  • Ethics of Responsability
  • It aims to identify universal rules which lay
    down "right" rules to be applied without regard
    for the consequences.
  • Good choices come from virtuous principles.
  • It produces actions on the basis of rational
    evaluation of the consequences.
  • valid choices produce "virtuous".consequences.

Religious ethics
Liberal ethics
Anti cult
Anti anti cult
Individualism, free thinking, antiproibitionism
Deeds, not creeds
28
Max Weber two ethics
Something went wrong.
  • Ethics of Conviction
  • Ethics of Responsability
  • It aims to identify universal rules which lay
    down "right" rules to be applied without regard
    for the consequences.
  • Good choices come from virtuous principles.
  • It produces actions on the basis of rational
    evaluation of the consequences.
  • valid choices produce "virtuous".consequences.

Religious ethics
Liberal ethics
Anti cult
Anti anti cult
Individualism, free thinking, antiproibitionism
Deeds, not creeds
29
The impossible shift
  • Ethics of Conviction
  • Ethics of Responsability
  • It aims to identify universal rules which lay
    down "right" rules to be applied without regard
    for the consequences.
  • Good choices come from virtuous principles.
  • It produces actions on the basis of rational
    evaluation of the consequences.
  • valid choices produce "virtuous".consequences.

Religious ethics
Liberal ethics
Anti cult
Anti anti cult
How can antiproibition shift from a laical
platform to a theological one?
antiproibition
Individualism, free thinking, antiproibitionism
Deeds, not creeds
30
So you understand that
  • The second illusion is
  • The war against the concept of mental
    manipulation is a struggle for freedom and
    Liberty.

31
Sometimes things are not what they appear to be

Sometimes things are not what they appear to be

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Sometimes things are not what they appear to be

Sometimes things are not what they appear to be
  • . and not always what appears noble and
    elevated really is.

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