Title: Pauline Interpretation of Christianity: ROMANS
1Pauline Interpretation of ChristianityROMANS
- RLST 212/Div/Rel 3162
- Tuesday, January 25, 2011
2Todays Schedule
- 310-400 Introduction to Paul 3 (three)
Historical Pauls - 400-440 Roundtables Rom 11-15
- teachings about Jesus as Christ, and Pauls
relationship with the Romans - 440-530 Discussion of your Interpretations
about Jesus as Christ and Pauls relationship
with the Romans
3Quest for the historical Paul focusing on the
undisputed letters
- Yielded three different scholarly interpretations
of Paul his authority - So very intense debate
- Should we not be able to discern
- How Paul viewed himself?
- How he wanted to be seen and understood?
- The intention of his letter?
- This is not easy to discern these Thus the
debate - But ultimately, it does not matter!
4TEXTUAL CHOICES
- A Text/Discourse Several Potential Meanings
- Example Lecture at Vanderbilt in 1986 by a
white South-African scholar. - Intentional message clearly expressed by the
argument join us in the struggle against
apartheid and racism in South Africa this is
what many of us heard. - But is it the only message? The true one?
5TEXTUAL CHOICES
- But the African-American students heard a very
different message. - To convince us emphasized the plight of black
Africans, describing them as child-like, in need
of education, so that they will move away from
their backward culture. - the demeaning metaphors and other figures of
speech - Convey racism
6Choosing most significant features of a text
73 Kinds of Interpretive Choices Theological
Choices Frame
- Each biblical text has many possible meanings
inscribed in the text - We have to make a choice
- The intention of the authors is not necessarily
the most significant
8Quest for the historical Paul focusing on the
undisputed letters
- Yielded three different scholarly interpretations
of Paul his authority - So very intense debate
- 1) Paul the Theologian
- along the line opened by Augustine, Luther
- 2) The Pastoral Paul
- With similarities with the Paul of Acts and
- 3) The Apocalyptic/Messianic Paul
- With similarities with Paul of Greek Fathers,
Orthodox Churches, Charismatic movements, and
liberation theology
9Quest for the historical Paul focusing on the
undisputed letters
- Yielded three different scholarly interpretations
of Paul his authority - 1) Paul the Theologian when focusing on the
theological argument of Romans as a
self-conscious consistent theological
presentation of his Gospel - 2) The Pastoral Paul when focusing on the
rhetoric of Romans how it was crafted to affect
its hearers/readers as a convincing dialogic
discourse - 3) The Apocalyptic/Messianic Paul when
focusing on the convictions (self-evident truths
un-intentional, spontaneous), faith/vision, and
the religious experience conveyed and presupposed
by Romans as a religious discourse
10Quest for the historical Paul focusing on the
undisputed letters
- Our interpretations in this seminar will yield
different interpretations of Romans - At first, interpretations by others might not
make sense to us. But rather than rejecting
them off-hand as false or wrong, we have to ask - Did the other reader focus on another aspect of
the text than I did? - 1) rather than finding meaning in Romans as a
logically consistent theological argument - 2) finding meaning in what is inconsistent
because Romans as a rhetorical discourse aimed at
convincing and affecting its audience can NOT be
theologically consistent, because it sets in
dialogue the different views of Paul and of his
(envisioned) audience - 3) finding meaning in the figurative religious
aspects of Romans because this religious
discourse shares in a mysterious way (like a
poem) a new vision, a new religious experience
11Three Different Scholarly Interpretations of Paul
Different analytical/textual choices
- 1) Paul the Theologian along the line opened by
Augustine, Luther - 2) The Pastoral Paul With similarities with
the Paul of Acts and - 3) The Apocalyptic/Messianic Paul With
similarities with Paul of Greek Fathers, Orthodox
Churches, Charismatic movements, and liberation
theology - We will NOT debate which one is right or
legitimate the three are legitimate,
historical - BUT we will acknowledge that we made or are
making a textual or analytical choice Reading
Romans as either - -- A Consistent Theological argument
- -- An Inconsistent Rhetorical Discourse or
- -- A Religious Discourse
12Different Contextual Choices PREDICAMENT
(Romans in GBC)
- Different kinds of predicaments
- 1) sinners are individuals making a mess of their
lives by not doing Gods will Forensic Gospel - 2) sinners are Communities or social groups that
confront and exclude each other Pastoral Gospel - 3) sinners are people (both individuals and
communities) in bondage under the power of
sin/evil Apocalyptic/Messianic Gospel
13PREDICAMENT gtgtgt Theological Choices about GOOD
NEWS (Romans in GBC)
- 1) Good news that individual sinners against
whom God is angry are justified-forgiven by
Christ through faith Forensic Gospel - 2) Good news that excluded people (Gentiles) are
now included by Christ as Gods people in the
(New) Covenant (without excluding the Jews)
Pastoral/Covenantal Gospel ( New Perspective) - 3) Good news that people in bondage under the
power of sin/evil are liberated by Christ from
this bondage Apocalyptic/Messianic Gospel
14Forensic Gospel (e.g., Peter Stuhlmacher
Revisiting Pauls Doctrine of Justification ,
Moo, Feb 1 and Gager Reinventing Paul , part 1
Feb 8
- Human predicament People are sinners as
individuals who are/were not faithful toward God
(not doing Gods will) - They are guilty (and feel guilty) and should be
condemned and punished by God, the righteous
judge (as in a court, so forensic) fear of God
- Humans are Under Gods condemnation God is angry
against human (Gods wrath) God views humans as
Gods enemies
15Forensic Gospel (e.g., Peter Stuhlmacher
Revisiting Pauls Doctrine of Justification , Moo
Feb 1 and Gager Reinventing Paul , part 1 Feb 8
- Human predicament People are sinners Under
Gods condemnation - root-problem LACK OF WILL to do Gods will
and/or LACK OF KNOWLEDGE of Gods love. - Solution a) Good News Christ died instead of
sinners the Grace (forgiveness) of God
(vicarious death) - b) Sinners are justified ( not condemned)
through faith in Christ ( believing that
Christ died for them)
16Pastoral/Covenantal Gospel Jewett Gager
Reinventing Paul part 2 Feb 15 and N.T.
Wright, Paul in Fresh Perspective , Jewett Feb 22
March 1
- Human predicament
- Gentiles are sinners, separated from God, because
they are in rebellion against God and do not
belong to the People of God (viewing themselves
as rejected by Jews) - Jews also are sinners they are not faithful to
the covenant, separate themselves from God - Being Enemy of God
- angry against God
- suspicious of God (God is unjust God is
partial God prefers favors others) - and jealous of Gods people
17Pastoral/Covenantal Gospel Jewett Gager
Reinventing Paul part 2 Feb 15 and N.T.
Wright, Paul in Fresh Perspective Feb 22 March 1
- Root-problem rebellion against God anger
against God (either as Gentile or as Jews)
LACK OF/WRONG VISION of God and of Gods people - Solution Christ died to reconcile all with God
so that we will not be in rebellion/angry
against God, by establishing a new covenant
new good relationship between humans and God and
among humans - through the Grace of God all are called to be
members of Gods chosen people to be children
of God - Gentiles as well as Jews are justified (made
righteous) when through obedient faith they carry
out their vocation (the purpose of their calling)
as the chosen people sent by God to others as
Christ was for others.
18Apocalyptic/Messianic Gospel e.g., Beker, Byrne,
Käsemann, Patte, March 1, 15
- Human predicament All (Jews and Gentiles) are
sinners separated from God by evil powers - the power of sin which keep them in bondage
- Idolatry which have power upon them as Powers,
Principalities (engendering death) - By distorting their vision (darkening their
minds) - Being oppressed by evil, idolatrous powers
- Root-problem a darkened mind
- either lack of/wrong vision, bringing about
powerlessness (unjust oppression) - or powerlessness (lack of ability) in bondage,
bringing about a wrong vision
19Apocalyptic/Messianic Gospel e.g., Beker, Byrne,
Käsemann, Patte, March 1, 15
- Solution Christ died and was raised from the
dead in power to free people, today as well as in
the past he is the living Christ who today
frees people from the powers of sin which keep
them in bondage - Justified people become in turn instrument of
justice as in Christ they are members of
Christs body through whom the resurrected Christ
acts freeing people from bondage this is
their vocation as slave of Christ and saints.
203 Kinds of Interpretive Choices Analytical
Choices Frame
21Analytical Choices Romans in Global Bible
Commentary
- Theological Argument consistent argument - of
the letter - philological historical-critical approaches
- Pastoral/Rhetorical Discourse of the letter
through which Paul seeks to persuade his readers
to change their behavior (inconsistent, because
presents also the readers view) - rhetorical and socio-historical analyses
- Apocalyptic/Messianic religious discourse
reflecting religious experiences and symbolic
world posited by the letter Pauls convictions
- not intentional that which drives him (his
convictions) and shapes his discourse (mythical
structure of it) - methods of history of religions and structural
studies
22Roundtable on Rom 11-15 Jesus as Christ or
Pauls relationship with the Romans
- 1) In the session, the leader 1 then Leader
2 present briefly her/his understanding and a
scholars (Moos. Jewetts, or Byrnes)
understanding of the theme of what Paul says in
Rom 11-15 about her/his theme Jesus as
Christ or faith (theological choices) AND how
this conclusion can be grounded in the text
(analytical choices) total 4 views - 2) Then ask the members of the roundtable what
are the DIFFERENT teachings about the theme
people have identified in their own report.
Make sure to clarify the DIFFERENCES what are
you learning from others? - 3) Then IF TIME PERMITS discuss how these
theological and analytical choices are related to
contextual concerns that need to be addressed in
believers lives (contextual choices)
23Jesus Christ Gods Son pre-existed, was
incarnated, exalted. Forensic/Theological Reading
of the Theological Argument
- Rom 13-4 affirms in a traditional vocabulary the
overall Christology that Paul holds and that he
believes the Romans also share (or should share)
with him. - The introductory clause, Romans 13a the gospel
concerning his Son, posits Pauls view that
Jesus Christ is Gods Son. - Though the vocabulary is different from
Philippians 26-11, Paul presents Christ Jesus
according to the same theological pattern
pre-existence, incarnation, and exaltation. - He was Gods son (Rom 13a Phil 26) before
being born of Davids seed (as Messiah from the
seed of David) when living in the human realm
(according to the flesh, Rom 13b Phil 27-8). - Following his death through his resurrection from
the dead, he was exalted, established Son of God
with power (Son of God as a source of power) and
now lives in the realm of the Spirit (according
to the Spirit of holiness), in such a way that
his lordship, Jesus Christ our Lord, could be
acknowledged by all and fully manifested (Rom
14 Phil 29-11).
24Jesus Christ reconciles Jews and Gentiles
Pastoral Reading of theRhetorical Discourse
- Gods Son embodied and resolves the tensions
between Jews and Gentiles. - Paul cites in 13-4 a traditional creed known by
the Romans, that expresses tensions between
Jewish Christian and Gentile Christian forms of
the gospel. - Focusing on the way these verses affect Pauls
readers in Rome, with Dunn, Jewett and Stowers,
one can recognize Pauls concern for the tensions
between Jewish Christians and gentile Christians
and thus - That he affirmed that the gospel is in continuity
with the Jewish Holy Scriptures. - That he gently refers to this tension by taking
carefully into account traditional Christological
views expressed in a vocabulary which is foreign
to him--rather than using his own vocabulary he
uses a traditional vocabulary. - That he affirms that Christ embodied and resolved
the tension between Jews and Gentiles in Christ
own person - And in the call to serve and to represent him
that Christ as Lord addresses to all of
them,15-7.
25Jesus Christ our Lord Christ enthroned as Son
of God in the heavenly sphere of power
Apocalyptic-Messianic Reading of the Religious
Discourse
- Jesus Christ our Lord is the fulfillment of the
type David and of Gods promises through the
prophets - Christ enthroned as Son of God in the heavenly
sphere of power (Käsemann, 12). - God has inaugurated the eschatological
liberation by setting up Jesus as messianic
agent of the promised liberation (Byrne, 39). - Jesus fulfills the type David, not only by
descending from David according to the flesh, but
also by being installed Messiah in fact
(Byrne, 39), with full power as Lord (as the
Davidic king is enthroned as Son of God, Ps.
27), - by being raised from the dead and entering into
the new age marked as the sphere of his active
reign in power as risen Lord (as fulfillment of
Ps 1101) - as Paul further expresses in 1 Cor 1523-25, now,
after Jesus resurrection, the Risen Lord is in
the process of defeating the powers which keep
humans in bondage.
26FAITH (CDC ARTICLE)
- 1. Faith as Faithfulness. Gods (Christs)
faithfulness to Gods promises and Human
faithfulness to God - 2. Faith as Trust as trusting God Augustine
the faith by which we believe (fides qua
creditur) - 3. Faith as Believing a Speakers Words
(Believing That) believing in the words of
Scripture. Augustine what is believed (fides
quae creditur), or the content of faith - 4. Faith as leading to true Knowledge Believing
in order to understand (Augustine Knowledge is
found through believing) or faith seeking
understanding (Anselm we need to
understand/know what is implicit in faith) - 5. Faith as Movement toward, and Experience of,
God. (believing in God or Christ) Knowing
Christ, Experiencing Christ As Lord. Faith As
Discovering Christ In Others (The Promise Of The
Incarnation) - 6. Faith as Gift (from God) that puts believers
in the right relationship with God
27Faith /believing primarily refers to
- Forensic /Theological Reading faith
believing in Christ believing something about
Christ in what Christ has done in the past (on
the cross) - Pastoral/Covenantal Reading faithfulness toward
Christ and God as Christ was faithful to God and
us in the past (on the cross) (emphasizing
subjective genitive of the faith of Christ
faith that Christ had, the faithfulness of
Christ in 322) but also the faithfulness which
holds together a community a group's assent to
and participation in the gospel of Christ
crucified and resurrected, a gospel that reveals
the righteousness of God as transcending the
barriers of honor and shame. (Jewett on 322) - Apocalyptic/Messianic Reading faith/believing
in Christ Recognizing through the eyes of faith
that the promises/types (that Christs cross and
resurrection are) are fulfilled in our present
and submitting to Gods power as manifested in
these fulfillments (obedience of faith) -
28Showing Obedience of faith to a Roman
Legionnaire
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30ROUNDTABLE A Jesus as Christ
- LEADER _Julie Carli__ (her interpretation vs
Moo) -
- LEADER 2 Jonathan Baynham__ (his
interpretation vs Jewett) -
- Iris AnKrom-Crittenden_
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- Madeleine St Marie_
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- Karney_
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- Derek Axelson_
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- Ross Stackhouse
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31ROUNDTABLE B Faith
- LEADER 1 Arden Henderson_ (her interpretation
vs Moo) -
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- LEADER 2 Jeremy Snow_ (his interpretation
vs Byrne) - Julianne (Jarrett) Snape
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- Murielle Wyman
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- Jason Jones
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- Amy Lentz
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- Stephen Staggs
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- Logan Robertson
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34GOSPEL Forensic/Theological (Stuhlmacher
Barrett Bultmann Cranfield Dunn Moo)
- Good news about something which happened in the
PAST, to be appropriated in the present, and with
effects (salvation) in the future for individuals
- message about Jesus Christ, the good news about
salvation of anyone who believes it a powerful
news frees believers from guilt/fear - Proclamation preaching the message about Jesus
Christ (about what Christ DID) about salvation
of anyone who believes it
35GOSPEL Covenantal/Pastoral/ (Gager Wright
Stowers Jewett Fitzmyer)
- Good news about something which happened in the
PAST, to be implemented in the present, and with
effects in the future for communities (the
separation of Jews and gentiles, barbarians and
Greeks, etc. has been overcome needs to be
implemented now, and is fully promised in the
future) - as message about Jesus Christ that establishes a
new (covenantal) relationship with God (
salvation) it powerfully affects, transforms our
relationship with other people (thus honor and
shame effects) - Living the gospel as the new covenant community,
the new creation, an inclusive community, the
body of Christ, open, inviting others (any
other) in the covenant community
36GOSPEL Apocalyptic/Messianic Käsemann Beker
Patte Byrne Campbell
- Good news about something which is happening in
the PRESENT, as a fulfillment of the promises
contained in the past, and to be responded to
through faith NOW IN THE PRESENT, and is a token,
first fruits, of what will be fully accomplished
in future for communities, although also for
individuals - as message about the risen Christ with power that
promises that IN THE PRESENT he does intervenes
and saves people from the powers of evil, as
those who have the eyes of faith can see and
recognize. - Living the gospel by imitating Christ (Christs
crucified, but also the risen Christ) one makes
manifest the power of the gospel By joining in
Risen Christs present actions
37Next week Roundtable on Rom 116-21
- Focusing discussion on three themes choose one
(sign up) several possible interpretations of
each. - The teaching for believers today in a particular
context about one of these - the righteousness/justice of God
- the gospel as the power of God for salvation to
everyone who has faith - homosexuality
38The relationship between obedience and faith
1
- Faith necessarily results in obedience, when
faith is defined as believing that (faith as
defined by its content "believing that the
message of the gospel as teaching is true"). - For the Forensic Theological Reading, if faith is
genuine, it brings about an obedient life. - When faith is a trustful assent to the divine
truth of the gospel proclaimed by apostles to
whom it has been revealed, - acting according to this faith involves a
submission to the demands of this gospel, and
obediently living a life that follows its
teaching. Evidence - Romans, 111, the doctrinal part of the gospel,
the content of faith, what the readers should
believe - Romans, 1216 moral teaching --the obedience of
faith, what the faithful readers should do in
obedience to their faith
39The relationship between obedience and faith
2
- Faith necessarily results in obedience, when
faith is defined as trust in the faithfulness
of Gods promise (because God is faithful) and
thus trust in Gods call to a certain
ministrycall to be apostles, to be saints
(17),etc. (828-33 121-8). - For the Pastoral Reading, faith is a response
to Gods call and election (see 11), or more
broadly, to Gods call to be saints (17) as
members of Gods people in the covenant (a call
which irrevocable, 1128) - Covenant broadened through Jesus Christ to
include Gentiles. - this call is for a service, for a function.
- Therefore trusting (having faith) in Gods call
is also accepting to carry out this function
faithfully, obedience. Thus faith without
obedience, without carrying out this vocation,
cannot be genuine faith.
40The relationship between obedience and faith
3
- Faith and obedience designate the same
acknowledgement of the authority of God and
Christ, when faith is understood as slavery to
Christ (11) in the sense of being totally under
the power of ones Lord and Master. - For the Messianic Reading, faith is being put
under the power of the Lord (Christ, or God) by
Gods intervention, acknowledging the
authority/power of the Lord upon ones life, and
thus it is also obedience, submitting to this
authority/power of the Lord. - Here faith is first of all a gift from the
Lord one cannot have faith if it is not given
through a divine intervention (a manifestation of
Gods grace). Yet, faith is also a movement
toward God, the humble submission to this
authority of the Lord.
41Jesus as Christ Forensic/Juridical
- Christ is the savior Christs death (2000 years
ago), dying instead of us - Christ died for sinners Propitiation through
Christ dying/being punished instead of us
Vicarious sacrifice
42Jesus as Christ Covenantal
- Christ died for sinners
- Expiation Reconciled human with God, by
demonstrating Gods love for us, through his
absolutely faithfulness to God and to us, which
established a new covenant with God - His death is a Passover Sacrifice Covenantal
Sacrifice
43Jesus as Christ Apocalyptic/Messianic
- Christ died for sinners was raised with power.
- Redemption freeing people from their bondage to
evil powers/ aka idols that keep people under
their power. Redemption Sacrifice
44Authority
- Authority means not sheer power but legitimate
power. - Authority exists only insofar as those who submit
do so by acknowledging the legitimacy of those
who are in a position to use institutional or
other power and/or to speak authoritatively. - In Christian thought, authority belongs first to
God, then to Christ, then to those who are
authorized by God and Christ (prophets,
apostles)
45Authority 2. How is the divine authority
transmitted from Christ to Paul?
- Pauls authority because he has received the
Gospel and has the true, orthodox teaching (1 Cor
151ff) was recognized by the Jerusalem church
(Gal 1-2). Peter/Cephas, John, James). - Institutional authority Paul has authority
because he is recognized as a commissioned
apostle someone who is honored/saint (by
contrast with shameful) as someone who can be
trusted. - a charismatic authority. Pauls authority based
on being freed from bondage by the power of God
through a revelation/intervention of Jesus
Christ, (road to Damascus) gospel.
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49Pauls Metaphoric self-designation as slave. A
slave is
- Someone owned by a master, and thus in bondage
and totally at the mercy of this master someone
worthless, powerless, in an abject situation,
with a shameful status (emphasized by the
Messianic Reading) - Someone who, although in a low status, is a
member of a household, and who, as a servant,
acts in the name of his/her master for the sake
of the household someone totally defined by
his/her mission in the name of a master
(emphasized by the Pastoral Reading) - Someone who is unconditionally submitted to the
will and authority of a master (emphasized by the
Theological Reading).
50Connotations of Christ Jesus inSlave of
Christ Jesus emphasized
- Christs power upon the slave (according to the
first view of slave chosen in the Messianic
Reading) - Christs mission which the slave prolongs in
the name of the Lord (according to the second
view of slave chosen in the Pastoral Reading) - Christs authority to which the slave
voluntarily submits (according to the third view
of slave chosen in the Theological Reading).
51Showing Obedience of faith to a Roman
Legionnaire
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53I am indebted to Greeks and barbarians, to wise
and foolish
- Because of Gods gift to me (calling me, grace,
apostleship, gospel), I must do something for all
people - Greeks and barbarians, wise and foolish people
are the reason of (the source for) my
apostleship I owe myself to them - I am indebted to them I have received continue
to receive from them precious gifts